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Reply #15 - 10/02/17 at 16:11:17
 
Sad to see on the media (and here) that such a tragity has become a point for political posturing.  Automatic weapons are already illegal, and have been for decades.          The political posturing by Hillary etc. is simply that. Political Posturing to gain attention.....  There is something in society that fosters this type of behaivor, and changeing "gun laws" is not going to influence violent behavior in Mexico, or Europe, or anywere else.....
 
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Reply #16 - 10/02/17 at 16:12:47
 
“…If Trump was as evil as you want to believe, he would not be so obvious in his actions of tweeting, etc. …”

Now that is a Point.

’Tweeting’,  is the, Norm.   Everyone does it.
      Now    -   (Didn’t used to be)

It is a accepted form of Communication, (now), like  Forums, Groups, FB, and others.
Thinking if  Trump was So,  ‘Evil’,  and bent on destroying this Country.
  (Like the, ’Snowflakes’, say every chance they can)

He would, Not  be,  ’Tweeting’ !

( At least he is not, ’Tweeting’, “We will Bomb you, Next Tues, at 3:52 PM, your time, at  ABC by XYZ Coordinates”,  like a past POTUS often did.)
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Reply #17 - 10/02/17 at 16:38:49
 
old.indian wrote on 10/02/17 at 16:11:17:
Sad to see on the media (and here) that such a tragity has become a point for political posturing.  Automatic weapons are already illegal, and have been for decades.          The political posturing by Hillary etc. is simply that. Political Posturing to gain attention.....  There is something in society that fosters this type of behaivor, and changeing "gun laws" is not going to influence violent behavior in Mexico, or Europe, or anywere else.....   

Just for those that don’t know,
In 1934, the NFA was passed. (National Firearms Act)
 (Fully Auto  Firearms)

In 1968, the,  Gun Control Act , was implemented.
It is what we live with today.
Started with 3/4 of a page,  (Form 4473)
It is Now 6  Pages long.

(The Total History is a Lot more implicated than that, but you get the gist)

BUT Wait,  H.R.C.  SAID:
    ‘Anyone, can buy any gun from anybody, from anywhere,
               just like a teacup off, flea-bay’.

(Guess she learned from, Sara Brady,  
Tell a LIE,  LONG Enough, and Often Enough,
 And the people that want to Buy, ‘Ocean Front Property’,
                 in AZ,   will Believe it)
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Reply #18 - 10/02/17 at 17:10:08
 
Who is praying for the shooter?

Something broke.

A small rented airplane can crash into a football game on Sunday, loaded with fuel and cause death and destruction.
We have seen trucks already.

It's not the weapon.
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Reply #19 - 10/02/17 at 17:18:10
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/02/17 at 10:38:22:
Watch this guy turn out to be a Trump hater like our friend Sew here and selectec C&W show because he figured there'd be Trump supporters there. This story will drop off the radar quicker than the Republican baseball players getting shot.


You may be right....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzO0lgvQID0

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Reply #20 - 10/03/17 at 04:24:31
 
Wow, it is down already.  Did you see the someone recorded automatic muzzle flashes on the 3rd floor?

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Reply #21 - 10/03/17 at 06:47:05
 
pg wrote on 10/03/17 at 04:24:31:
Wow, it is down already.  Did you see the someone recorded automatic muzzle flashes on the 3rd floor?

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 I've seen 3 videos, two of which I have witnessed being fabricated to show how easy it is to start an "alternate shooter" conspiracy.

 One was garbage, the second was really well done.  We will see a few "another shooter(s)" recordings pop up.
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Reply #22 - 10/03/17 at 11:43:40
 
raydawg wrote on 10/02/17 at 17:10:08:
Who is praying for the shooter?

Something broke.

A small rented airplane can crash into a football game on Sunday, loaded with fuel and cause death and destruction.
We have seen trucks already.

It's not the weapon.


Pray?  Seriously?

It IS the weapon in this case.

No, you can't legislate hate - duh...  But you also can't condone this guy - or any person for that matter - to have such an arsenal...

Yeah, we know they're illegal... again - duh.

But this country has turned a blind eye to this for too long.

Had this guy been a dark-skinned (insert non-Christian religion here) - there would be travel bans up so fast your head would spin!

No - this guy is being called a "lone wolf".

Fuk that - this guy is a domestic terrorist.  Hey - maybe we should follow tweety's thoughts and kill his whole family, huh?  smh



This kind of thing will happen again, and on a bigger scale.

It's just a matter of time.  As we see time and time again - Apathy kills.
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Reply #23 - 10/03/17 at 12:43:02
 
His weapons were already illegal...against the law.

I don't own a gun, don't want to.
But to blame a object is to miss the cause, in my opinion.
Murder is already against the law, so in effect, it does not address the matter in a viable way.

You can go off in a tangent about skin color, etc, just add more BS to an already confusing and troublesome problem....
I will chalk that up to frustration more than ignorance.

This country has some serious issues plaquing it, have for a spell.
This is not a Trump born issue, historical proof proves otherwise, but go ahead, plod down the same road and arguments, its working wonders  Roll Eyes

What seems to escape the left is that their reactions is playing into, and emboldening the right wing fringe, a real genie out of the bottle scenario.

The crap I read on message boards, etc, by both sides, leaves me to believe things will get uglier, before they get better.

PS: you may tell me to F off, and that web agrees with that....  Kiss
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Reply #24 - 10/03/17 at 12:53:50
 
TT, your door is laying in the yard.
Like you, it came unhinged.
You don't know squat about what weapons existed. The total number keeps changing. FFS, HOW is it that they went from ten rifles to almost THIRTY? Isn't there an information officer? I listened to some of the audio. I've shot semiautomatic rifles that fast.
Not long, they get hot and wreck the barrel.
Some guy, retired, pilot, owns two planes, and some apartments, suddenly goes bananas? WHY?
And, who did he shoot?

Country music fans.

And what got the woman fired?
Pointing out that they are typically republicans.
And that's been my experience, too.
Not a lotta lefties dig it.

So, IF you are right, this home grown turrist is a lefty.
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Reply #25 - 10/03/17 at 13:00:51
 
raydawg wrote on 10/03/17 at 12:43:02:
His weapons were already illegal...against the law.

I know - as I said, you can't legislate hate.

I don't own a gun, don't want to.
But to blame a object is to miss the cause, in my opinion.
Murder is already against the law, so in effect, it does not address the matter in a viable way.

I'm not blaming an inanimate object.  I'm "blaming" the fact that he acquired such an arsenal.  Why does anyone need that many guns?

You can go off in a tangent about skin color, etc, just add more BS to an already confusing and troublesome problem....
I will chalk that up to frustration more than ignorance.

Um, ray - you know I'm right.  Had this man been a Muslim, or acting for isis, this conversation would be totally different.


This country has some serious issues plaquing it, have for a spell.
This is not a Trump born issue, historical proof proves otherwise, but go ahead, plod down the same road and arguments, its working wonders  Roll Eyes

I'm not blaming this on anyone but you and me and everyone else in the country.  We, as a country, have turned a blind eye to this for decades.  No - it's not JUST the guns, it's not JUST the "crazies", it' not JUST the laws.  It's all of us failing to act.

What seems to escape the left is that their reactions is playing into, and emboldening the right wing fringe, a real genie out of the bottle scenario.

Seriously ray - give up the left bashing - you look stupid.  This is NOT a left or right thing.  This is an apathy thing.  Get over your disdain for the left and look at the people who support tighter gun restrictions (nearly 90% of Americans).

The crap I read on message boards, etc, by both sides, leaves me to believe things will get uglier, before they get better.

If we do nothing, yes, it will.


PS: you may tell me to F off, and that web agrees with that....  Kiss


Enough ray - I could give a rats a$$...
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Reply #26 - 10/03/17 at 13:51:04
 
Cut the red tape and demagoguery then....

What can we do to stop this?
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Reply #27 - 10/03/17 at 16:14:13
 
A fairly simple and immediate solution, or at least a start,... would be to outlaw these $50 kits that convert semi-autos to machine guns... (Bump stocks?)...
Nobody, but nobody needs a full auto machine gun in America.
The founders couldn't anticipate weapons that would allow a single individual to assault 20,000 people from 1,000ft away... Killing 59 people and wounding 500 in less than 10 minutes would take an army back then.

WMD's... You can't own.  Full auto qualifies...
This was mass destruction...
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Reply #28 - 10/03/17 at 16:30:30
 
You can't be taught what the Second Amendment is meant to accomplish.
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Reply #29 - 10/03/17 at 16:32:27
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/03/17 at 16:30:30:
You can't be taught what the Second Amendment is meant to accomplish.


"..that being a well regulated militia.

That one?.... Huh
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