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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Wasn't I n MY history books 06/27/17 at 21:49:34 https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/walter-e-williams/confederate-generals-tr... I don't know of anyone who would answer.
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mpescatori Serious Thumper Offline Romanum Thumperium Cavalco, yeaaah !!! Posts: 3547 Rome, Italy Gender:	Re: Wasn't I n MY history books Reply #1 - 06/28/17 at 00:00:49 Interesting read. Way back in the 1960's and '70s Robert E.Lee, Jefferson Davis and Stonewall Jackson were considered heroes. I do not recall ever reading anything against them. Why should anyone want to obscure their memory ? Why would anyone want to ban Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn ?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Wasn't I n MY history books Reply #2 - 06/28/17 at 07:27:53 Some people don't want truth. Some are PCPussies.
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Reply #3 - 06/28/17 at 07:45:08

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/27/17 at 21:49:34:

I don't know of anyone who would answer.

... differently?

I was educated before PC was vogue.
Lee, Jackson, Davis were the great generals of the CW.
They did more with less but eventually defeated.
But they are now caught up the repression of history.
People like to think they are good and came from good people.
The facts that support such bad need to be erased.

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Reply #5 - 06/28/17 at 07:52:43

I think you guys are viewing this from one perspective and calling it complete.
In historical context, time, place, circumstances, the scale of judgement was calibrated under a different set of principles, and perspectives, that really do not lend themselves well to the present understandings....

It's fair to argue that removing history, doesn't change anything of the past, however, it might advance a better understanding to the future.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28757 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Wasn't I n MY history books Reply #7 - 06/28/17 at 08:01:17 raydawg wrote on 06/28/17 at 07:52:43: It's fair to argue that removing history, doesn't change anything of the past, however, it might advance a better understanding to the future. Those that don't learn from the past are doomed to relive it.
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Reply #8 - 06/28/17 at 08:22:36

Didn't the US pitch a fit when ISIS destroyed some relics in territories they controlled because it didn't fit their current world view?

No one of consequence celebrates slavery. Those statues and markers are historical, not celebratory. And this could get out of control. Washington, Jefferson owned slaves. do we get rid of the dollar bill, Washington monument etc... some people say yet.

Liberalism.....honestly it's a disease that spreads.....

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Reply #9 - 06/28/17 at 08:45:30

WebsterMark wrote on 06/28/17 at 08:22:36:

Didn't the US pitch a fit when ISIS destroyed some relics in territories they controlled because it didn't fit their current world view?

No one of consequence celebrates slavery. Those statues and markers are historical, not celebratory. And this could get out of control. Washington, Jefferson owned slaves. do we get rid of the dollar bill, Washington monument etc... some people say yet.

Liberalism.....honestly it's a disease that spreads.....

Sure,.. Germany should have left up all those Hitler relics too... Roll Eyes

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Wasn't I n MY history books Reply #10 - 06/28/17 at 09:00:51 Your desperation is showing.
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Reply #11 - 06/28/17 at 09:25:02

So go ahead... honour your slave owning, murderous, traitors that inflicted the greatest loss of life in American history...
Tell me how that is any different than honouring Hitler?...

Removing statues that honour these men is not sweeping history under the rug,..
Dark periods in history should be remembered but not honoured...
The side of right is clear here..

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Reply #12 - 06/28/17 at 10:00:17

WebsterMark wrote on 06/28/17 at 08:22:36:

Didn't the US pitch a fit when ISIS destroyed some relics in territories they controlled because it didn't fit their current world view?

No one of consequence celebrates slavery. Those statues and markers are historical, not celebratory. And this could get out of control. Washington, Jefferson owned slaves. do we get rid of the dollar bill, Washington monument etc... some people say yet.

Liberalism.....honestly it's a disease that spreads.....

Ask yourself this - were those confederates traitors?

Simple yes or no.

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Reply #13 - 06/28/17 at 10:46:38

No.
Read the article. Understand that the States WERE independent NATIONS, unto themselves.
Nobody would Join into an agreement to Unite and Work Together WITHOUT the Option to Dissolve the Agreement and End the Association IF that association with the others had become burdensome. Secession was not an afterthought. The RIGHT to secede was included in the founding documents.
You can scream about slavery, but it WASN'T WHY we went to war. If slavery was The Deal,
Explain WHY the Emancipation Proclamation wasn't Part of the Declaration OF the war.

Yeah, do THAT!

And explain why Lincoln said

If I could save the union and leave the institution of slavery intact, I would.

A Union secured by force? That's not a union.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28757 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Wasn't I n MY history books Reply #14 - 06/28/17 at 12:18:07 Wasn't the beginning of the civil war the firing upon fort sumter? So the 1st act of the newly declared nation is an act of war. If there wasn't... would there had been a civil war?
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