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LostArtist

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Re: the choice
Reply #15 - 11/10/16 at 08:05:37

raydawg wrote on 11/10/16 at 03:29:02:

LostArtist wrote on 11/09/16 at 19:58:19:

raydawg wrote on 11/09/16 at 16:37:12:

Seems you have been angry for a spell.

You PM filthy accusation, to me, attaching the F-bomb to the word "tard" without even seeing that very action reveals what you think of folks with diminished brain functions.

now that's just silly, even a person with diminished brain functions could see that, maybe one day you'll be at that level, keep trying...

You will do whatever you want, and its NOT because of what others do.
You need to awaken to the fact you are the reason for your own attitude, blaming others or circumstance will not solve your riddle.
Please, seek help if you need it, no shame in that.

yeah, you're right, I will do what I want, but I am allowed to express my frustration that the same people that have been so divisive during this campaign, and before during Obama's administration, are now asking ME to not return the favor? they want me to act respectfully, when they called Obama everything up to and including the N-word. It's like someone punching and fighting you and their telling to "stay still, don't fight back"

I haven't decided if I'm going to turn the other cheek yet.

Don't turn the cheek for them, but for yourself....
Please try and wrap an understanding around who will be freed, with such actions.
The best way to teach is not by instructions, but by actions.
We buy so much crap, by words of promise.....
Yet nothing has to be said, when we see someone doing what is right.
We inherently know that is right, and sustainable, for it needs no spin.
You know this, we all do....
We just forget, and get stubborn, and prideful, when caught Embarrassed

I don't want to let you or them forget their own actions and words, I'm sick of the double standard

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28763 L.A. California Gender:	Re: the choice Reply #16 - 11/10/16 at 08:36:46 LostArtist wrote on 08/31/16 at 14:28:06: I've always been independent, I don't know anyone converting, but plenty are just opting out, on both sides. I'm probably voting for Gary Johnson, but might vote for Hillary just to piss JOG off The BS meter just pegged.
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LostArtist

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Re: the choice
Reply #17 - 11/10/16 at 11:37:22

verslagen1 wrote on 11/10/16 at 08:36:46:

LostArtist wrote on 08/31/16 at 14:28:06:

I've always been independent, I don't know anyone converting, but plenty are just opting out, on both sides. I'm probably voting for Gary Johnson, but might vote for Hillary just to piss JOG off Tongue

The BS meter just pegged.

I didn't know you were into pegging, does your wife know?

oh, and since that post was IN AUGUST, how slow is your BS meter, you might need to have that looked at.

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Re: the choice
Reply #18 - 11/10/16 at 11:40:28

LostArtist wrote on 11/10/16 at 11:37:22:

verslagen1 wrote on 11/10/16 at 08:36:46:

LostArtist wrote on 08/31/16 at 14:28:06:

I've always been independent, I don't know anyone converting, but plenty are just opting out, on both sides. I'm probably voting for Gary Johnson, but might vote for Hillary just to piss JOG off Tongue

The BS meter just pegged.

I didn't know you were into pegging, does your wife know?

oh, and since that post was IN AUGUST, how slow is your BS meter, you might need to have that looked at.

You should run for office... You could run as trumps long lost twin brother.

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LostArtist

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Re: the choice
Reply #19 - 11/10/16 at 12:55:58

verslagen1 wrote on 11/10/16 at 11:40:28:

LostArtist wrote on 11/10/16 at 11:37:22:

verslagen1 wrote on 11/10/16 at 08:36:46:

LostArtist wrote on 08/31/16 at 14:28:06:

I've always been independent, I don't know anyone converting, but plenty are just opting out, on both sides. I'm probably voting for Gary Johnson, but might vote for Hillary just to piss JOG off Tongue

The BS meter just pegged.

I didn't know you were into pegging, does your wife know?

oh, and since that post was IN AUGUST, how slow is your BS meter, you might need to have that looked at.

You should run for office... You could run as trumps long lost twin brother.

another reason why you should have your BS meter checked is because THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I DID.

"I've always been independent, I don't know anyone converting, but plenty are just opting out, on both sides. I'm probably voting for Gary Johnson, but might vote for Hillary just to piss JOG off "

also again with the reading comprehension (this really is a thing with conservatives isn't it?), I said I, I, I don't know anyone converting, not that there weren't people converting, and in reality, can you prove that anyone did convert? the enthusiasm gap, which I admit I questioned as to how much of a difference that would make and I was wrong, that's what made the difference, a lot of democrats stayed home, the numbers show that Hillary under performed where she should have over performed, according to 2012 results.

I'll give Trump and conservatives credit, the polls are flawed. But let's see how I came to that conclusion, I didn't speculate based on my personal experience, I accepted them as being fairly accurate at least within a margin of error, and now after seeing them really mess up, do I see them as flawed, also, look at that word, flawed, not worthless, not complete crap, but they need to be adjusted so there's better data next time, I'm not overly hyperbolic about this, not yelling about how worthless they are and how no one should pay attention to them or anything like, but now there's a caution sign on them, that's all.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28763 L.A. California Gender:	Re: the choice Reply #20 - 11/10/16 at 13:54:15 You should get a job at a used car dealership to get ready for politics.
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LostArtist Ex Member	Re: the choice Reply #21 - 11/10/16 at 14:42:45 verslagen1 wrote on 11/10/16 at 13:54:15: You should get a job at a used car dealership to get ready for politics. let me sell you a bridge in Brooklyn ...
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Re: the choice
Reply #22 - 11/10/16 at 16:52:00

LostArtist wrote on 11/10/16 at 12:55:58:

" ... I didn't speculate based on my personal experience, ..."

I didn’t speculate based on my personal experience,

Help me with the, ‘compression’, of that statement?

You say: you had a, ‘Personal Experience’, with something.
Yet, a, ‘Personal Experience', IS, “Speculation” ?

I have always believed, ’speculation’ is what someone else says about something.
And, ‘Personal Experience’, is a Fact,
because it Happened, to me, (or you),
Thus, Personal Experience !

And you Contradict your own statement.

“…I accepted them as being fairly accurate at least within a margin of error, and now after seeing them really mess up, do I see them as flawed, …”

Would not, you, ‘accepting’ them, as …. be what you believe.
And, now after seeing them …,
Be a Personal Experience?

“ …can you prove that anyone did convert?…”

By, converting, I am guessing you mean, ‘how they voted’.
I Know, Several people, (not on this forum),
Who were planning on 3rd Party, then, ‘Held Their Nose’, and voted for Trump. (You don’t know any of them)

Yet, if you were, ‘paying attention’, to the Posts here.
You might be able to figure out, who here did !

Can’t help ya, because you are upset as to the election results.
But what is what. Move Forward.
and, “Hold Trumps Feet to the Fire”, saying, ‘You Said’.
It is something we ALL Have to do. ALL of US !

Yes, I believe he was a better choice than Clinton.
But that does NOT, Mean, I will STOP, caring !
I will, STILL, be, ‘Holding his feet to the fire’.

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LostArtist

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Re: the choice
Reply #23 - 11/10/16 at 18:25:42

MnSpring wrote on 11/10/16 at 16:52:00:

LostArtist wrote on 11/10/16 at 12:55:58:

" ... I didn't speculate based on my personal experience, ..."

I didn’t speculate based on my personal experience,

Help me with the, ‘compression’, of that statement?

You say: you had a, ‘Personal Experience’, with something.
Yet, a, ‘Personal Experience', IS, “Speculation” ?

let me help you DECOMPRESS that statement, again, your failure at English explains a lot, I don't take my personal experience and extrapolate it out to confirm my already existing biases (hunches)

I have always believed, ’speculation’ is what someone else says about something.
And, ‘Personal Experience’, is a Fact,
because it Happened, to me, (or you),
Thus, Personal Experience !

And you Contradict your own statement.

so, no I didn't, reading comprehension, again, how sad

“…I accepted them as being fairly accurate at least within a margin of error, and now after seeing them really mess up, do I see them as flawed, …”

Would not, you, ‘accepting’ them, as …. be what you believe.
And, now after seeing them …,
Be a Personal Experience?

it's actually now a SHARED experience and in the records of credible journalism

“ …can you prove that anyone did convert?…

By, converting, I am guessing you mean, ‘how they voted’.
I Know, Several people, (not on this forum),
Who were planning on 3rd Party, then, ‘Held Their Nose’, and voted for Trump. (You don’t know any of them)

Yet, if you were, ‘paying attention’, to the Posts here.
You might be able to figure out, who here did !

fair enough, I did too, I was going to vote Johnson, then I went Clinton

Can’t help ya, because you are upset as to the election results.
But what is what. Move Forward.
and, “Hold Trumps Feet to the Fire”, saying, ‘You Said’.
It is something we ALL Have to do. ALL of US !

Yes, I believe he was a better choice than Clinton.
But that does NOT, Mean, I will STOP, caring !
I will, STILL, be, ‘Holding his feet to the fire’.

yeah, I know you want to burn it all down, but no, I'm supposed to help heal with you, to bring this nation back together, after it's all ashes, that's going to be kinda hard though.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8998 Minn Gender:	Re: the choice Reply #24 - 11/10/16 at 18:45:03 LostArtist wrote on 11/10/16 at 18:25:42: " ... I know you want to burn it all down, but no, I'm supposed to help heal with you, to bring this nation back together, after it's all ashes, that's going to be kinda hard though. LOLOLOL, So, you said, YOU, are a 'Patriot'. In your world, tell us exactly, what that means?
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LostArtist

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Re: the choice
Reply #25 - 11/11/16 at 15:05:28

MnSpring wrote on 11/10/16 at 18:45:03:

LostArtist wrote on 11/10/16 at 18:25:42:

" ... I know you want to burn it all down, but no, I'm supposed to help heal with you, to bring this nation back together, after it's all ashes, that's going to be kinda hard though.

LOLOLOL,

So, you said, YOU, are a 'Patriot'.
In your world, tell us exactly, what that means?

what you are really asking, is what do I think is good about America. in my world? that's highly disrespectful, but I'll take that as I question your reality as well, hopefully we'll work towards at least sharing a reality

to put it simply,
"There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured with what is right in America." William J. Clinton
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williamjc101130.html

That's why I love this nation, we DO have a voice in our government, you can't deny that, look at 2010, and even this past election, The system WORKS, even without term limits, and I still have faith and believe that, yes it can be difficult, as you will soon find out, but it's designed to be that way, I love our government, how it's set up, sure it can be frustrating but my freedom to believe what I want is protected, your freedom to believe what you want is protected, just as long as you nor I do anything to harm any other.

I love the diversity of America, all kinds of diversity, I want everyone to share equal protection under the law, that's not how it right now, but I love that that is closer than ever before though. Diversity should not be limited, we are a melting pot, not a one size fits all culture.

I love freedom of speech, I love the bill of rights and the constitution, even the "evil" 14th amendment,

here's the problem you have, yeah, I'm somewhat liberal, but I'm not AUTHORITARIAN, I'm not going to force you to follow my beliefs about anything, I'll argue until I'm blue in the face about it, but as long as you aren't hurting me or another, I really don't have a problem with whatever the heck you want to do. oh, and repealing Obamacare, is hurting another, like actual health hurt, not financial hurt, but yeah, it needs work for sure, but understand that arguing isn't forcing.

I'll have more later...

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8998 Minn Gender:	Re: the choice Reply #26 - 11/11/16 at 16:59:10 LostArtist wrote on 11/11/16 at 15:05:28: " ... I want everyone to share equal protection under the law, ..." Would that be, 'everybody', EXCEPT, H.R.C. ?
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