LostArtist wrote on 07/06/16 at 18:33:53:


Why do you think the 2A is the second amendment in the Bill of Rights?

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LostArtist wrote on 07/06/16 at 12:02:17:


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Tell you what, I'm better than 30% hit ratio.


--Steve

It would take days of hanging out and swilling beer to correct the wrong headedness of that one post. The complete lack of understanding who We the People are and how the government is not sovereign, we are, Understand that just because They do something that doesn't make it lawful. And the Founding Fathers were Well aware that the war was won When they wrote the second amendment. They were warning us from the beginning. Read more, Look for things that would go against what you have been led to believe. I'm right and I Can prove it. The Supreme Court has ruled that I am correct. I've typed it over and over again and I don't want to again.

And what is it that you want?

JOG is 100% correct on this.

Sew's understanding of the 2nd Amendment is the equivalent of saying 2 + 2 = 5. And not just to pick on Sew, but many others on here are just as wrong.

It's original meaning is not debatable. All you have to do is read the writings of those who wrote and debated it at the time. It doesn't matter what you think it means or what you wished it meant.

The second amendment is for the people to protect themselves and this nation against an oppressive government. Their own first, others, second. It's not about hunting, not about shooting empty beer cans in the woods, not about going to the range with your own AR15; it's bigger than that. It's the 2nd Amendment. Directly behind the first.

Could this happen in the USA tomorrow? No. 10 years from now? Maybe, unlikely, but you certainly have to admit the possibility. It's almost a natural order of evolution of a nation.

By the way, look at all the federal agencies who have been granted arrest authority and arm their own security divisions. I believe I read there are 67 government agencies with firepower. 67! I also remember reading somewhere that all together, these agencies have more armed agents than the US Marines have armed soldiers.

Why does the EPA need an armed force?  I'll tell you why and it's already been done. When the local law enforcement office refuses to use force to impel a citizen to 'obey' the ruling of an unelected bureaucrat from the EPA to leave their land for example, they use their 'brownshirts' to do the enforcing for them. It wasn't that long ago that fully armed 'agents' raided an Alaskan town looking for Clean Water Act violations.

There may come a time in your lifetime Sew that you and others comfortable right now find themselves living in a nightmare, a prison with bars made from one agency after another directing everything you do.

Don't be foolish and let cowards calling for gun control try to tell you what the 2nd amendment means.

If at some point in the future there are jackbooted, MIB, thugs, breaking down doors and stealing us away in the night... you know what I won't do?...
Take them on with a gun...

Then you'll be a slave, living on someone else's whims.

While those who don't yet grasp the reasons for the second amendment are reading founding documents in hopes of gaining an accurate understanding of what America is and their true place In America I suggest they keep an eye out for odd phrases like

When the tree of of Liberty requires the Blood of Patriots, etc,,  

Actually, Bot, your Point is well made, but it is more reasonably used Not to explain why gun control is a good idea, but more than anything else, that OUR SERVANTS are becoming more oppressive and Our SERVANTS out gun US should be dealt with by making Them either less well armed Or, the People should be more able,, is that something you can absorb?

And will you be living free in that bag?...
Will your family thank you for leaving them helpless?...

Think Holocaust... Surviving is more heroic than dying...

Name an instance when one of these survival/militia nuts won...
It don't happen,...
This is the 2nd amendment delusion...