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Reply #16 - 07/03/16 at 06:19:00

webbrob wrote on 07/02/16 at 21:59:51:

Serowbot wrote on 06/17/16 at 16:20:56:

Nope,.. I don't carry... never felt that scared...
Plus,.. guns are awkward to carry...

It isn't about scared. My wife says the same thing about having guns in the house, she "doesn't like living in fear".

It's about preparation. Being in the military I carried a gun for a long time in a place where people shoot at you.

Here it is just about having a gun and not needing it compared to rolling into a situation, and by some remote chance needing one and not having it.

I still frequent gun free zones, but I severely limit my time in them. I wonder what happened to that LCDR who was packing when the recruiting center got hit. It is against the UCMJ for us to carry personal weapons on base, and for someone like me (paygrade wise), I would probably see brig time for that.

I would discuss my discomfort with that, but I prefer not to give them (the bad people) ideas like the press does all of the time. Tongue

How does she feel about wearing a seat belt?
Does she feel like she is Inviting a flat tire by carrying a spare?
Jumper cables? Begging for a dead battery..
Don't live in FEAR! Be unprepared and pretend that by Being unprepared for a problem, That problem will not arise.
If you have savings, and Could swing a big repair bill on the car, take it out of the bank, go on a cruise.
It's Irrational to say that having a weapon causes fear.
If someone is afraid Of the weapon, then training in handling and shooting are in order.

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HovisPresley Serious Thumper Offline Good Vibrations! Posts: 991 Midlands, UK Gender:	Re: Constitutional Carry Reply #17 - 07/03/16 at 12:16:49 "If someone is afraid Of the weapon, then training in handling and shooting are in order." Do you have MnSpring's number?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Constitutional Carry Reply #18 - 07/03/16 at 12:59:32 Nope,, and we are far apart.. She needs a 22 rifle to start with. Poke some Short cartridge s in. Ear protection, big, close target..
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28385 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Constitutional Carry Reply #19 - 07/03/16 at 13:34:13 JOG,.. didn't you say, sometimes a helmet helps, sometimes it doesn't?... Sometimes a gun might help,.. sometimes it might get you killed... When a 911 call goes out for a "man with a gun"... Police are looking for a man with a gun... That's often all they have to go on...
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Reply #20 - 07/03/16 at 14:22:41

Well, nothing is perfect. Life isn't predictable. Sometimes wearing a seatbelt Doesn't save your life, but, is that reason enough to Not wear one?
Disarming societies has been done. It's not as great as people want to believe. Nobody has been able to create utopia. Being unable to protect life and family isn't a comfort.
And yes, I have crashed when a helmet would have killed me.
I have crashed and not hit my head.
I have crashed and Smashed my face.

And, only one time was I wearing a helmet. And Boy am I glad.

By your logic, children should not have a pellet gun, because cops sometimes shoot them.

Maybe training cops better is a good idea.

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Reply #21 - 07/03/16 at 14:29:09

Yep, that's when unwise or irresponsible cops gun down innocent people. Law enforcement is a tough job, now isn't it? Screw up, and everyone automatically hates you. Undecided

Too many people automatically identify anyone with a weapon as criminal scum or a threat. Some cops are probably among those, making the situation worse.

Some people who are armed simply don't want to be a victim.

Those who are not martial arts masters or don't carry weapons have to assume and hope that they will be okay defenseless in a tough, dangerous world. Some places have plentiful law enforcement. Others don't. You can never assume that you can order "instant cop" like Wile E. Coyote does in cartoons. You can't assume that calling for help is going to be a better solution that taking care of yourself, especially when it comes to speed. A bullet is much faster than a squad car, and a fist is swifter than an officer running around the block.

If you rely on the government to help you, often the best thing they can do is try to catch and punish your murderer. They are not always going to help you either. Sometimes they'll end up slapping you in the face and screwing you over.

The government goes by that old idea... everyone's friend = no one's friend.

Serowbot, lately I've been becoming more liberal in my thinking, and I have lately been losing my religion. However, I hold on to the idea that we should be free to defend ourselves and secure the means to do so. This includes lethal weapons. Now tell me... How do you defend yourself in highly populated, liberal places like New York City or-- worse-- London? I don't even think you can carry PEPPER SPRAY in England! Seriously!?!? Wouldn't that make you feel very insecure? Not that I carry weapons everywhere--simply that the man won't let you! Anybody can beat your brains out and you can't do a stinking thing about it! Angry

By order of the government! Angry

I guess I'll have to carry a walking stick if I go to Britain. Surely they wouldn't ban those. If any of those anti-weapon g-men gets suspicious, I'll just limp about and say I have a bad knee. Tongue

What if you drove through some place crazy like that and got thrown in jail and got your life ruined over that knife you've got stuck in your bike? Worse--what if they called it a felony? See, it's not about being thrown in jail. It's about the endless fines, fees, probation, lost rights, and social ostracisation. You lose your rights; the government pokes, prods, and takes your money; and society spits on you. People don't want to hire you, marry you, trust you, or anything. Fortunately, I've never gone through that, so I don't really know, but I reckon it's a nightmare. When everything is illegal...When everything is a felony... I'm not talking about some abstract dystopia... I'm talking about something not far from current reality.

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Reply #22 - 07/03/16 at 14:45:36

Right, JOG. My uncle told me about how a T-Bone wreck can make wearing a seatbelt more dangerous than none.

Even so, sometimes preventative measures helps. Though I've scraped up my helmet. I've never had a wreck where I remember hitting my head hard on the pavement. Usually, the biggest thing is road rash. Honestly, while it might be fun to go without leather, if I hadn't worn my jacket, especially in my last wreck, I'd have been torn to shreds. I've come to the conclusion that, usually, I take the most damage to the forearm. It's naturally how I hit the ground and slide. While a helmet may save your life or face when you actually hit your head, the most useful protection for everyday scuffs is simply clothing because it guards against one of the few things that's almost guaranteed to happen in an unprotected crash... Road Rash

Carrying a weapon may not save you every time. It may make things worse. But it will give you a fighting chance. It's about the freedom and power to defend yourself, not exactly whether or not it's guaranteed to work.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28385 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Constitutional Carry Reply #23 - 07/03/16 at 16:07:23 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/03/16 at 14:22:41: Maybe training cops better is a good idea. Never count on the other guy, to be smart...
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12854 Gender:	Re: Constitutional Carry Reply #25 - 07/03/16 at 16:41:33 If one guy had a gun in orlando, it might have been different. That's the point, might have been. Ultimately, I'm Pro-choice .......on gun control, on conceal carry. The government can't tell me what to do with my body.
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Reply #26 - 07/03/16 at 16:52:11

Serowbot wrote on 07/03/16 at 16:07:23:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/03/16 at 14:22:41:

Maybe training cops better is a good idea.

Never count on the other guy, to be smart... Grin

Really, dude? How irritating... Without the giggling idiot face, it wouldn't have been so bad, but really..
No, betting on the other guy to not be a douche seems like a generally bad bet,, I get it. But, expecting people to self censor because they are surrounded by idiots isn't exactly right, either, is it? And Why are we Unable to expect reasoned, intelligent behavior from our cops?
Maybe it's got something to do with hiring and training policies.

Now, read this, then go giggle in the closet.

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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: Constitutional Carry Reply #27 - 07/03/16 at 18:11:38 Cough: incomplete links :cough: cough: must have :cough: deep links :cough:
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Constitutional Carry Reply #28 - 07/03/16 at 18:29:34 I copied the page. You can look up key words.
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