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04/09/16 at 02:39:55
 
This thread is largely in part to Bot posted in a previous thread something to the effect of when was a America better.  This has some interesting material.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-08/1956-america-peaked-back-then-and-we...

So how did it all go so wrong?

Could it be possible that life in America peaked back then and we have been in decline ever since?

Before you answer, I want to share with you a list of comparisons between life in America in 1956 and life in America in 2016…

In 1956, John Wayne, Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe were some of the biggest stars in the entertainment world.

In 2016, our young people look up to “stars” like Miley Cyrus, Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga.

In 1956, Americans were watching I Love Lucy and The Ed Sullivan Show on television.

In 2016, the major television networks are offering us trashy shows such as Mistresses and Lucifer.

In 1956, you could buy a first-class stamp for just 3 cents.

In 2016, a first-class stamp will cost you 49 cents.

In 1956, gum chewing and talking in class were some of the major disciplinary problems in our schools.

In 2016, many of our public schools have been equipped with metal detectors because violence has gotten so far out of control.

In 1956, children went outside and played when they got home from school.

In 2016, our parks and our playgrounds are virtually empty and we have the highest childhood obesity rate on the entire planet.

In 1956, if a kid skinned his knee he was patched up and sent back outside to play.

In 2016, if a kid skins his knee he is likely to be shipped off to the emergency room.

In 1956, “introducing solids” to a baby’s diet may have meant shoving a piece of pizza down her throat.

In 2016, we have “attachment parenting” which advocates treating children like babies almost until they reach puberty.

In 1956, seat belts and bicycle helmets were considered to be optional pieces of equipment, and car safety seats were virtually unknown.

In 2016, millions of us are afraid to leave our homes for fear that something might happen to us, and if something does happen we slap lawsuits on one another at the drop of a hat.

In 1956, many Americans regularly left their cars and the front doors of their homes unlocked.

In 2016, many Americans live with steel bars on their windows and gun sales are at all-time record highs.

In 1956, about 5 percent of all babies in America were born to unmarried parents.

In 2016, more than 40 percent of all babies in America will be born to unmarried parents.

In 1956, one income could support an entire middle class family.

In 2016, approximately one-third of all Americans don’t make enough money to even cover the basics even though both parents have entered the workforce in most households.

In 1956, redistribution of wealth was considered to be something that “the communists” did.

In 2016, the federal government systematically redistributes our wealth, and two communists are fighting for the Democratic nomination.

In 1956, there were about 2 million people living in Detroit and it was one of the greatest cities on Earth.

In 2016, there are only about 688,000 people living in Detroit and it has become a joke to the rest of the world.

In 1956, millions of Americans dreamed of moving out to sunny California.

In 2016, millions of Americans are moving out of California and never plan to go back.

In 1956, television networks would not even show husbands and wives in bed together.

In 2016, there is so much demand for pornography that there are more than 4 million adult websites on the Internet, and they get more traffic than Netflix, Amazon and Twitter combined.

In 1956, the American people had a great love for the U.S. Constitution.

In 2016, “constitutionalists” are considered to be potential terrorists by the U.S. government.

In 1956, people from all over the world wanted to come to the United States to pursue “the American Dream”.

In 2016, 48 percent of all U.S. adults under the age of 30 believe that “the American Dream is dead”.

In 1956, the United States loaned more money to the rest of the world than anybody else.

In 2016, the United States owes more money to the rest of the world than anybody else.

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So now that you have seen what I have to share, what do you think?

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Reply #1 - 04/09/16 at 05:23:53
 
The two below are the biggies.


In 1956, about 5 percent of all babies in America were born to unmarried parents.

In 2016, more than 40 percent of all babies in America will be born to unmarried parents.

In 1956, one income could support an entire middle class family.

In 2016, approximately one-third of all Americans don’t make enough money to even cover the basics even though both parents have entered the workforce in most households
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Reply #2 - 04/09/16 at 06:54:27
 
Yeah.....
It was mostly white, straight, pseudo christians, apple pie, hot dogs, and Chevrolet...

So what, very homogeneous, like vanilla ice cream.

Today we are diverse, and that trumps, er.... I don't mean donnie, he was raised with a white pa, who wore wife-beater tees and gets his way using brawn, instead of the courts, like today.....

If you can't see the progress, then I suggest you get your eyes checked.....
They already have a doctor picked out for you  Grin

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Reply #3 - 04/09/16 at 07:00:05
 
I would suggest the biggest factor in this changing of lifestyle could be laid at one doorstep.......

TV.

If you note the date of veering away from a certain lifestyle, it would coincide closely with the TV.

We use to live our lives with interactions of neighbors and families as reality, not viewing  reality TV shows.

They called it a boob tube rightly so, for that was a byproduct of its use.
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Reply #4 - 04/09/16 at 08:12:12
 
actually you should probably add birth control pills to that list. Once the consequences from sex began to be removed, you have to believe there were some kind of cultural shift involved afterwards. Hell, I know I took advantage of it.....
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Reply #5 - 04/09/16 at 09:56:08
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/09/16 at 08:12:12:
actually you should probably add birth control pills to that list. Once the consequences from sex began to be removed, you have to believe there were some kind of cultural shift involved afterwards. Hell, I know I took advantage of it.....


Sex has always been a great stumbling block for mankind.....
It has lost the realm of what/how, it adds to further, and enhance growth, and selflessness, in a person-hood.
Sex based solely on self gratification is just one symptom of a decaying morality that has extended that mindset into many other elements that erode a society, like greed, materialism, self promotion, etc....

edit: BTW, I celebrate 33 years of marriage today with my bride.....
Never a once did I veer away to an affair, never.
Of course, like Jimmy Carter, men all have a lusting heart, but we need to overcome that, or we have absolutely no right to expect others to honor their word or commitments!
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Reply #6 - 04/09/16 at 11:38:11
 
[quote author=3B28302D283E2E490 link=1460194795/0#5 date=1460220968]WebsterMark wrote on 04/09/16 at 08:12:12:
... BTW, I celebrate 33 years of marriage today with my bride.....



Happy Anniversary ...

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Reply #7 - 04/09/16 at 13:38:41
 
I've typed the story of my grandpa with his 13stool snack bar, adding onto the house, building a garage and leasing access to the land behind the place, to ride horses, built a small barn and pen, upgraded from an old Pontiac to a pickup truck and a car for the wife, and supported me, my sister, mom, himself and his wife.. All from HIS labor, six days a week, about ten hours a day.

I REMEMBER working sixty plus Hours.. I wasn't growing. I was treading water.

Ohhh, mercy, someone believes America is BETTER?
Ohh, do explain.

I haven't heard from any lefties about Hillary confirming what I said about how the Supreme Court managed to make abortion legal. I was Shocked to hear her admit that the unborn have no Constitutional rights. Just as I said.
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Reply #8 - 04/09/16 at 16:16:08
 
Not a word from our friends on the left...

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Reply #9 - 04/09/16 at 17:58:04
 
You guys covered it pretty well... those days when white, hetero, Christian, men, had it all...
...and what are the big issues the "Make America Great Again" candidate keeps stumping?... A wall to keep out the Mexicans, limiting travel and surveillling Muslims, plus not letting any more in.  Criminal penalties for women that have abortions,.. Black lives matter.
Childish schoolyard taunts and bullying,.. degrading every woman he sees... toilet humour... and braggadocio...
The Party of regression...

Meanwhile,... Hastert, another champion of regression, was molesting the little boys in his charge...
In the good ol' days, you could get away with that...
Society swept all the dirt under the rug... wife beating, incest, molestation, "whites only", segregation,...
Things are so pretty when you only look at the surface.

Now,... tell me that's not the stuff you are talking about......but, guess what?... those are the things Trump talks about...
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Reply #10 - 04/09/16 at 17:59:14
 
pg wrote on 04/09/16 at 16:16:08:
Not a word from our friends on the left...

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Cool  'm not exactly "on the left", but may I ???

1956  "Jim Crow" laws, racial bigotry, and religious persecution.
2016  Well, at least Jim Crow is no longer openly followed.


1956  The primary career open to women was teaching, and even there their male counterparts earned more.
2016   Over 60% of college graduates are women. BUT, career openings are rare for any applicant and entry level earnings barely cover student loan payments.

1956  A large percentage of Americans could expect to work for one employer for their entire career.
2016  A large percentage of Americans don't know if their jobs are safe through the next "layoff cycle" / corporate buyout / "restructurer".

1956  Several morality groups from various Churches "informed" us which movies/ books / music to avoid less we lead lives of sin and debauchery.....
2016  Well, I guess that hasn't changed very much.....

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Reply #11 - 04/09/16 at 18:29:06
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/09/16 at 17:58:04:
Now,... tell me that's not the stuff you are talking about.......


I listed 20 bullet points from the article, that is precisely what I'm referring to.  Not one of those topics was demeaning to any demographic.

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Reply #12 - 04/09/16 at 18:56:47
 
So, we must allow the boys to be molested to get the jobs back?
I don't know how many dependents you have, but, even if you have none, surely anyone can see that, unless you have Unlimited Resources,there are only so many mouths you can feed, backs you can clothe and skinned knees you can bandage.
The ongoing whining about how racist I and every other reasoned person are is OLD. Tiresome.. And irrational.

The Good Ship Lollipop is sinking. Continuing to ignore the law, hell, even LEGAL immigration, unless someone is coming in with a buttload of money and plans for a way to employ a few hundred people, it's time to Stop bringing people IN . Nobody, unless they are able to Positively Impact the economy.
I don't care where they are from, as long as they WANT to Be an American. Sadly, many who were born here don't have a clue what that means. Diversity is all fine and dandy, IF there is a common thread. All the Hyphenated American people? Need to be American, first. And no dual citizenship representation.. Our law makers don't need divided loyalties.

Life Isn't a fairy tale. The World is finite. Yes, it would be sweet if everyone could have a comfortable house and healthy food and clean water and a doctor and medicine and a car and a motorcycle and a cook and a maid..

Frikken wake up to REALITY. It's funny, watching people who Say they believe that the World is overpopulated, but we got plenty of Room, And MONEY! We ain't got no JOBS, but we are number ONE, and we Will take care of you.
I'm gonna get the government to take money from others and we gonna help you OWT. YEAH. Cuz it's Nice. Cuz I care.

Hell, I CARE, I care enough that I gave some money to some old guy, about my age, on a bicycle. Dude lives in the woods. I'm seeing way too much of it. I don't get out much, but the people I'm seeing,, well, I don't Think they are walking and cycling for exercise.

Bot, you can believe whatever.. but Gloria Steinem was CIA and a change agent. It'd take hours just to explain what happened. You watched it yet, didn't see it.
Look at everything I have ever said about the fed, and the schools. They have sucked the marrow out of the country.

Really? You REALLY believe that EVERY trade deal that screwed America SURPRISED the people who shoved it through? How was it that I knew NAFTA was horrible, yet, Bill Clinton, maybe the smartest crook ever in the Whitehouse, Didn't?
Well, if it's all just been a series of unfortunate,ill advised choices, then it would SEEM that Once in a WHILE, they would take a step that DIDN'T SCREW US.
At some point ignorance and stupidity Stop working as cover for bad behavior.

Continuing to bring people INTO America is STUPID.
It's not sweet and it's not fun, but I'm sure that the SURVIVORS from the Titanic had to live with the knowledge that they left some to DIE, because the lifeboat was FULL.  Well, you wanna feed and house someone? I can find you some old guys who worked and did what they could to do things right, and yet, they are homeless, in their own country. And BOTH parties are to blame. But, being a little sheep and being told that it's only right   to bring the Mexicans in and it's racist not to.. Ohh, I'll do anything, just, please, don't call me racist.. Crap, give me a break.
Try, just for a moment, to look at the grim realities.
If YOU aren't rich and getting richer, who do You know who is?
Who is gonna PAY for what YOU want ME to do?
Put on a full coverage helmet and go outside.

As soon as you GET IT, your head's gonna explode. Don't make that mess in the house.
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Reply #13 - 04/09/16 at 20:13:04
 
Was I right or not......  Grin
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Reply #14 - 04/09/16 at 20:37:14
 
hildish schoolyard taunts and bullying,.. degrading every woman he sees... toilet humour... and braggadocio..

You left out the rapes,
You're talking about Clinton, right?

The changes that have hurt America came after I started school.
Right and wrong never change.
Attitudes towards right and wrong change. Societies have fallen before. Gee, I wonder what a failing, not yet failed, but FAILING
Society looks like.

Keep up that Progressive crap. We will see what failed is. Probably too late. I mean, make Ron Paul King of America and get every brain involved that understands business and the legal minds to get the unelected policy makers, if not in jail, then at least Muzzled. Probably still couldn't save it.
My steps,
Make me king?
The fed, gone.
The debt? Ohh, the audit would be ON, baby. See who has been the big winners..

Here's a Thought ,, a Mental Exercise

Let's say that You have a lawyer.
Your lawyer has Power of Attorney.
He signs your name on a contract.
That contract does nothing beneficial in your life.
And, it puts you in debt.
And you TOLD that fool,
Now, don't you go signing MY name on no debt instruments.


Do you REALLY feel morally obligated to Pay that?
I'd be telling Someone to shove off,I ain't paying none of that mess.

Yeah, things would change, quickly, and some stuff just takes time.
But I would be out on the lawn, burning trade agreements and pissing on the ashes.
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