Dave, you want me to show up early on the 23rd to help you get everything laid out and ready?

Dave  

Do ya have ?  : Spinning targets ? (22/big bore)
                      A barn we can camp in or should we bring our own tents
                      Target frame for paper targets
                      Cots ? (put my name on one of them  
                       
                                     
                 

I would not shoot a .22 spinner target with a real rifle, you'd fold it up where the round struck it even if it didn't punch right on through.    Rifle targets are more sturdy and all rounds I would bring are lead cored rounds.   Some of the '06 stuff is military full jacket though, so your pistol type steel targets should be avoided.

I've got some of those poly plastic cardboard signs too, so I won't bring mine but will instead bring a chronograph so we can speed test some stuff.

I will bring 3 fishing rods, with one set up for 40 pound catfish  ~ 80 pound test braided line ~   going on down to 12 pound test on the middle rod and super fine ultra lite 8 pound braided on the little rod.

Got no idea what Dave's catfish like to bite upon -- we got time to figure all that stuff out I suspect.

If I show up around noon - 1:00 pm on Tuesday the 23 that gives Dave a potential afternoon's worth of help mowing grass, setting up a tent or moving picnic tables or whatever else he needs done that afternoon.   No matter what he plans, time tends to get all crunched up at the end by something, and a little help right about then is useful.   Dave does not need to kill himself over getting ready for us, in other words.

Plus, zero on the rifles always needs checking as I cannot remember what I zeroed them to last, and I hate handing somebody a gun that is shooting off to the side because I was playing with something strange last time it was shot.

Rifles all have light triggers and they all kick -- stay backed away from the scope end bell and dry fire it a time or two before cranking in your first round.

Wow ...  

for $40.oo maybe we can just drive by and look at it ?    its the ride not the destination anyway .

I'd rather fish anyway.  

OK , so I don't carry grocers :   Regular self rising flower
                                             Lemon Pepper
                                             touch of sugar
                                             egg
                                             milk
                                             cutting board
                                             cooking oil

will we be shallow frying in your big iron skillet ?






                                           

Lancer wrote : I've got my 45-70 that should be able to handle that BIG monstrous  
I can't think of anything in N.America short of a Train Engine you could't stop with that thing . ...  with the right bullet I'm not sure the Train would be safe ?  

Carrying guns to scoot and shoots

Don't laugh -- and remember to put your guns out in the open inside your locked trunk area if you have one, or inside a locked case if you lack a trunk space to lock them up inside.   If you have a trunk, you don't need padlocked case as the trunk itself locks.   Put the rifle cases in plain view, don't bury them in stuff that may be considered "concealment".  Pull the bolts and store them with the ammo -- making the rifles non-functional removes any probable cause from the cops side should they decide to go after you.

Do not throw a blanket over the guns or wrap them in blankets if they are inside a common space of the car -- this makes it a concealed item and it upsets the police greatly.

Keep the ammo stored separately (in a different part of the car, in-accessible relative to the guns).  A locked suitcase works good for that, or a tool box if your truck has one.

When approached by a cop, put your hands 10:00  & 2:00 on the steering wheel in plain sight and politely tell the officer that you have rifles stored in the car but do not volunteer where they are (he'll ask where, so tell him but then be firm that he has no right to search your car or your trunk).  If he asks where the ammo is, tell him where it is but be firm that he has no right to search that part of the car either.   Offer no further information -- any information given can be used to excuse some further searching.

A traffic stop gives the cop no right to search areas not in plain sight, unless you are dumb enough to give him permission.   Don't do it, as highway patrol people are especially bad about tearing your car up looking and then stacking up a ton of little violations if given permission to go looking for them.

With all the shootings lately cops are VERY concerned about people going from A to B carrying weapons.   Be very polite, but firm --- no searching your car.   If they insist on searching anyway, ask what gives them a reasonable probable cause to do so and do not refute what they say as you ARE going to court now and YOU WILL NEED A DEFENSE LAWYER .   It is time to ask for your lawyer as you disagree that they have any probable cause at all and then SHUT UP TOTALLY.

Faced with a dubious car search of a knowledgeable, lawyered up traffic stop, most cops will give up, write you the ticket and let you go.  

Unless you did something stupid to give them probable cause, that is -- so drive somewhat carefully and don't do anything stupid.

You are living in the Obama Age -- be smart about it.

Texas had no gun registration, so my guns are not 'registered' but don't need to be,
I should probably get my CHL again, travel across state lines involves diferent 'legal carry each state
Some you have to do like OF says, and some the guns can't be concealed, which to me means they gotta be where a cop can see them during a traffic stop
I used to be OK with car searches, too, untill a Texas State trooper once left me with a citation... and 2 hours work putting all my stuff back in my car on the side of the road in the Texas summer sun
Since then, they don't get 'permission'  

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/31/16 at 06:51:16:



Wow, if this kind of weather keeps up for very long Kentucky will turn into a desert.