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don is a wuss
01/26/16 at 23:19:27
 
so he wont go to the debate hosted by fox cause meygan doesn't treat him fair Smiley
how would he deal with putan or that punk in north korea
hows that song go
"what a sharade you are"
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Reply #1 - 01/27/16 at 05:43:16
 
I don't know what to think about Trump anymore......

Here's why. I'm in OK City this week and was eating dinner last night at the bar (where I eat 90% of my meals....) and the guy next to me was an aircraft mechanic. Actually, he's a very specific mechanic. He and his crew go to where a plane is broken down, fix it up and fly it back. Just got back bring a 777 back from Spain. He's a degreed engineer, very educated and hard worker obviously.

We struck up conversation which I always turn to politics or religion (what else is there to talk about?...) but I didn't have to as this guy did it for me! He's voted republican all his life, and right now is a huge Trump fan. Huge. There's nothing Trump could do that would cause this guy to not vote for him.  If Trump ran 3rd party, (which basically is what he's doing now) this guy would vote for him. No one sitting within earshot disagreed.

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Reply #2 - 01/27/16 at 05:59:09
 
Web, I work with those guys, hard work from a suitcase.

As to trump, he is merely the benefactor of the rising dissatisfaction of politics, been growing steadily since Perot.
The biggest bump has been the Reagan democrats have felt left out of their party, the young, and white middle class males AND women.
It really is not an true endorsement of him personally, but a voice that is speaking back against the entrenched media, academia, and established party dogma.....
Is it dangerous, perhaps, but so is revolution  Grin
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Reply #3 - 01/27/16 at 06:48:54
 
WebsterMark wrote on 01/27/16 at 05:43:16:
There's nothing Trump could do that would cause this guy to not vote for him.


Scary...


These people need to realize,... there's a difference between telling it like it is, and just saying whatever you want.
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Reply #4 - 01/27/16 at 08:15:29
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/27/16 at 06:48:54:
WebsterMark wrote on 01/27/16 at 05:43:16:
There's nothing Trump could do that would cause this guy to not vote for him.


Scary...


These people need to realize,... there's a difference between telling it like it is, and just saying whatever you want.
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Oh pray tell.....
Did you read obamas interview on politico ?

He says Bernie has the luxury of just saying anything, but Hillary has to be careful about what she says.....

In other words, don't speaks the truth if it might cause you grief....

That bot us what has got us to this point....

You don't have to embellish or SPIN the truth
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Reply #5 - 01/27/16 at 09:05:54
 
raydawg wrote on 01/27/16 at 08:15:29:
Did you read obamas interview on politico ?

He says Bernie has the luxury of just saying anything, but Hillary has to be careful about what she says.....

In other words, don't speaks the truth if it might cause you grief....


I guess that's your interpretation of this?...
I think that they both believe in a tax system that is fair and not tilted towards, you know, the folks at the very top. But, you know, they — I think Bernie came in with the luxury of being a complete longshot and just letting loose.

I think Hillary came in with the — both privilege and burden of being perceived as the frontrunner. And, as a consequence, you know, where they stood at the beginning probably helps to explain why the language sometimes is different.


...but, a question later he said...
I think that there's always just a rhythm to this thing. I think that if Bernie won Iowa or won New Hampshire, then you guys are going to do your jobs and, you know, you're going to dig into his proposals and how much they cost and what does it mean, and, you know, how does his tax policy work and he's subjected, then, to a rigor that hasn't happened yet, but that Hillary is very well familiar with. And—


That's the difference between goals and plans... or ideology and reality...

This is what I would like to achieve... but, reality requires that it be worked out in this way.

... both are legitimate... it's just that Hillary is at a different stage in the process.
Bernie is explaining his goals... Hillary is explaining the actions she will take to achieve her goals.
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Reply #6 - 01/27/16 at 09:06:42
 
Being a "wuss" has nothing to do with it. Pay attention to the viewership numbers for this debate compared to the last one. Without Trump there they will likely be down 50%. That translates into millions of dollars in lost advertising revenue. Trump is pissed at fox and is sticking it to them where it hurts the most, in their pocketbook.

What he's done is made this debate irrelevant.
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Reply #7 - 01/27/16 at 09:29:30
 
I think viewership may go up...  
People will tune in to see what the candidates say about Trump while he's not there to answer back, and what Megyn Kelly will say as moderator.

It's still a reality show, where Trump is the head clown,.. he just won't be there.
...it's still gossipy entertainment, rather than a serious election.

It's ultimately the decomposition of the Republican Party, in a circus format.
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Reply #8 - 01/27/16 at 09:58:16
 
This is THE most important election in my life.
Things dont change and I don't know IF we get another election.
I'm Still, regardless of what it looks like , saying Hillary wins, America loses,,,
I'm going with Cruz, tho Heidi scares the crap out of me. I'm Very concerned that He is compromised, but I don't Trust Trump either.
Trump lost my support when he said he would continue the Ethanol subsidies. If free market won't support it, the People who consume it deem it less valuable than it costs, so,  it's dead. And Cruz said something none of the others have said.

What Obama has Done with executive action, I will UNdo, with executive action.

Ohh, I'm solid down with that. Is it just an empty promise?
I don't think so. Anyone who will filibuster for over twenty hours, no sitting down, no trip to the bathroom, now, that is not someone who is insincere.

Trump is popular for several reasons
He seems to be the guy who will shove a stick in the spokes of the front wheel on the run away government.


But, he ALSO says that He is the Dealmaker,, anyone else get a knot in the gut? Negotiations are fine, until the Topic is one that is unconstitutional.
As far as im concerned, the subsidies pick winners and losers, and don't serve the public, generally. In WWII, when GE was reverse engineering and developing the jet engine, sure, support them while they do that, but paying a farmer to NOT grow something, to keep the price up, paying for corn to be grown, to haul it off and make ethanol? Diminishing the food crops? Guys, that's a subsidy that we pay for on several levels. And it's WRONG that it exists. Subsidies are not free market and need to go away.
The only place I see it as even POSSIBLY justified is when the payback from a developing technology would impact the nation.
Like GE.

And, GE, took the subsidies, developed technology, and , IMO, screwed the taxpayers who held them up and gave them the opportunity to develop. They developed technologies and manufacturing capabilities on taxpayer monies and blossomed into a great milking machine on the udder of the taxpayer.
Just my opinion, not saying they didn't used to make great stuff, and im not saying that if I was head of the board of directors I would have done it differently.
The teat was there to suck. And the milk was sweet and never ran dry. Who wouldn't want summa that?


A few congressmen approach, and say

We've decided that supper tonight is your left leg.

But, we will negotiate.


Being uncompromising is sometimes important.
We've seen too many Deals made. Look at all the trade deals.
How is it that American workers got destroyed in EVERY GOD darnED ONE OF THEM?
And nobody does Fukkall about it. It's the new normal.
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Reply #9 - 01/27/16 at 10:17:38
 
oldNslow wrote on 01/27/16 at 09:06:42:
Being a "wuss" has nothing to do with it. Pay attention to the viewership numbers for this debate compared to the last one. Without Trump there they will likely be down 50%. That translates into millions of dollars in lost advertising revenue. Trump is pissed at fox and is sticking it to them where it hurts the most, in their pocketbook.

What he's done is made this debate irrelevant.


he doesn't answer questions either side steps or goes on the offensive

your post is almost a direct quote from his campaign
the debate should be about issues not ratings
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the debate should be about issues not ratings


Of course it should. But it won't be. And if you think fox news is more interested in the issues than they are in ratings and dollars you are kidding yourself.
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Reply #11 - 01/27/16 at 10:51:00
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/27/16 at 09:05:54:
raydawg wrote on 01/27/16 at 08:15:29:
Did you read obamas interview on politico ?

He says Bernie has the luxury of just saying anything, but Hillary has to be careful about what she says.....

In other words, don't speaks the truth if it might cause you grief....


I guess that's your interpretation of this?...
I think that they both believe in a tax system that is fair and not tilted towards, you know, the folks at the very top. But, you know, they — I think Bernie came in with the luxury of being a complete longshot and just letting loose.

I think Hillary came in with the — both privilege and burden of being perceived as the frontrunner. And, as a consequence, you know, where they stood at the beginning probably helps to explain why the language sometimes is different.


...but, a question later he said...
I think that there's always just a rhythm to this thing. I think that if Bernie won Iowa or won New Hampshire, then you guys are going to do your jobs and, you know, you're going to dig into his proposals and how much they cost and what does it mean, and, you know, how does his tax policy work and he's subjected, then, to a rigor that hasn't happened yet, but that Hillary is very well familiar with. And—


That's the difference between goals and plans... or ideology and reality...

This is what I would like to achieve... but, reality requires that it be worked out in this way.

... both are legitimate... it's just that Hillary is at a different stage in the process.
Bernie is explaining his goals... Hillary is explaining the actions she will take to achieve her goals.


Oh I get its "legitimate" in the current political climate. This has been SOP for a spell now, but I believe this mindset is what the "anti" vote is voting against......
Let's use the AA awards and Hollywood as example where this "word smithing" eventually leads.....
They have used racism as a tool against the right in a wholesale manner, now it has turned on those who use to use it to distract the oppositions ability to get out their message.

A lie will always take a lie to cover it up....

You can ligitimize it all you want Bot, but it changes nothing and only futhers the practise of deception in the media, politics, etc....
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Reply #12 - 01/27/16 at 13:44:11
 
oldNslow wrote on 01/27/16 at 10:31:50:
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the debate should be about issues not ratings


Of course it should. But it won't be. And if you think fox news is more interested in the issues than they are in ratings and dollars you are kidding yourself.

of course fox is in business for $
don is still a wuss for runnin scared  be cause she asks tough questions
he doesn't know how to discuss or reason = debate
shows a lack of leadership

we will see how bill o riley treats him
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Reply #13 - 01/27/16 at 14:59:25
 
It's ultimately the decomposition of the Republican Party, in a circus format.

Nothing the Republican Party could do compares to all the Democrats standing by Bill Clinton the rapist..... Obama the boy-king who waves his executive order wand to go around congress or soon to be felon Hilary.

the difference is the majority of the news telecast and the cultural media is controlled by those sympathetic to Democrats. That means somehow Trump gets portrayed as if he's the only lunatic when in reality, he's no crazier than Hilary, Bernie or Hopey-Change.
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Reply #14 - 01/27/16 at 16:18:06
 
I mean think about this for a second. Hillary is under investigation by the FBI. To say she's a liar is an understatement. If she tells you it's sunny outside better grab your umbrella. Her husband is a rapist and himself the king of all liars. He stood in front of a national audience, waggged his finger and lied through his teeth. He's a disbarred  lawyer. If she gets elected this is the guy who's back in the White House?

The other Democratic candidate is a socialist! All he wants to do is destroy the American economy by taxing everybody he thinks makes too much money. He thinks the most important thing is  facing the world today is ......... wait for it ........ that the temperatures going to increase a fraction of a degree, maybe.

and Donald Trump, a successful American businessman, is the candidate  we should be afraid of in this scenario?
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