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Reply #45 - 01/20/16 at 13:15:04
 
You forgot the Dunlop K555 in 140/80-15/. My tire of choice since years. Just got a new one last spring. Was $115 less mounting at the local bike dealer. Lasts double as long as the IRC on my bike, and handles better
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Reply #46 - 01/20/16 at 14:18:51
 
ralfyguy wrote on 01/20/16 at 13:15:04:
You forgot the Dunlop K555 in 140/80-15/. My tire of choice since years. Just got a new one last spring. Was $115 less mounting at the local bike dealer. Lasts double as long as the IRC on my bike, and handles better


Nope....didn't forget.  In the first post of this thread it states:  "For the moment it is limited to tire "pairs"....where a matching front/rear tire set can be purchased."
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Reply #47 - 01/27/16 at 03:25:15
 
I bought a new set of Shinko 230's from Bike Bandit to install on the Rescue Bike.....riding on 12 year old tires just didn't seem like a good idea even though there is plenty of tread on them.

The tires were ordered on Friday, and delivered on Tuesday...the 130/90-15 rear tire was $ 66.31, the 100/90-19 front tire was $ 56.42....total cost was $ 122.73.  The tires were built in November 2015 - so they are nice and fresh!

Now for the surprise....the 130/90-15 tire is not a downgrade in width from the 140/80-15 IRC.  I measured the width of the 140/80 IRC before I took it off, and it was 132mm wide......and the 130/90 Shinko measured 136mm wide when mounted.  I suppose that this can be explained by looking at the following chart.  The 140/80 tire uses a wider 3.50" rim as the standard size....and it can be mounted on rims between 2.75" - 3.50" wide - so the Savage rim pulls the sidewalls in 3/4" narrower than what is "standard" for the tire.  The 130/90 tire is acceptable on rims from 2.50" - 3.50" - so the Savage rim is right in the middle of the range for that size tire.




So I believe the 130/90-15 tire is definitely a good replacement tire for the standard 140/80 rear tire.  It is just a bit taller and will change the gearing by only 1%, and there will likely be no noticeable change in the handling (except for the improvements that a new tire allows).  The even taller and wider 140/90 tire will increase the gearing by 4% and the extra weight and inertia does slow the bike handling and acceleration down a bit.....and for some folks that is a beneficial change as they like the extra stability and reduced engine rpm when cruising.


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Reply #48 - 01/27/16 at 08:58:48
 
Told Ya'll the dern Savage is over tired
of course, ALL cruisers are over tired, so no surprise
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Reply #49 - 01/27/16 at 17:44:28
 
Dave wrote on 01/27/16 at 03:25:15:
I bought a new set of Shinko 230's from Bike Bandit to install on the Rescue Bike.....riding on 12 year old tires just didn't seem like a good idea even though there is plenty of tread on them.


I've got around 1000 miles on my 230's now and they're better than ever...just love 'em!
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Reply #50 - 01/28/16 at 02:54:47
 
Dave: did you weigh the 130/90-15? I'd be willing to bet that they are much lighter than the 140/90 I put on last summer. Also, less unsprung weight.
What weight I saved on the dyna muffler, I gave up on the tire.  Angry
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Reply #51 - 01/28/16 at 03:06:14
 
I didn't weight the tire prior to mounting - but I have been weighing the complete wheel/tire assembly and will weigh it before I put it back on the bike.  I did notice there is a lot of rubber on the Shinko, and it is considerably heavier than slightly worn IRC I took off.
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Reply #52 - 01/28/16 at 13:30:06
 
Just FYI, it's not the weight of the tire that influences how fast the bike is. What really controls that is where that weight is on the tire. The farther out the weight is, the more influence it has on the speed of the bike.

Try spinning a 2 lbs. weight on a 12" string and then try the same weight on a 48" string! It's not the same.
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Reply #53 - 01/28/16 at 13:49:07
 
I have to disagree with you there Kris.
the size or wt. of the tire won't have an affect on top speed, only acceleration.

of course a really tall fat tire will have more drag and rolling friction, but that's not what we are talking about here.
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Reply #54 - 01/28/16 at 13:52:20
 
We're in agreement there. Maybe my post wasn't clear. A heavy tire will probably have the same top speed as a light tire. It will just take longer to get there.
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Reply #55 - 01/29/16 at 05:11:53
 
Well I got the new Shinko's mounted last night...they look good and the 130/90-15 rear tire is every bit as nice looking as the original 140/80-15 tire.

I did weigh the complete wheel/tire assemblies - but it is not going to be of much use as the tires are different brands, and they had different amounts of wear.

IRC  GS-18 140/80-15, 5mm tread depth (4,000 miles) 29.8 lbs
Shinko 230 130/90-15, 6mm tread depth (new)   31.0 lbs
Dunlop D404 140/90-15, 4m tread depth (worn) 32.0 lbs
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Reply #56 - 01/29/16 at 11:18:13
 
That little bit of weight difference is actually pretty significant.
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Reply #57 - 01/30/16 at 15:46:35
 
It was 56 degrees in KY today....so I got to take a ride around the neighborhood on the new Shinko 230's.  They are round, seem to roll fine, and didn't do anything weird.

It was nice to put a few miles on a bike....my first ride for 2016!
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Reply #58 - 04/29/16 at 09:09:51
 
So I think im going for hte 140/90-15 rear but my question is why take the front to 110/90-19 is there something wrong with the recommended 100/90-19?

Thinking of going with the Metzeler ME888 Marathon since I'm thinking of doing runs to Yosemite and around central california.

There's a sale and i"ll see if i can get them today.
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Reply #59 - 04/29/16 at 12:23:56
 
Kruzader wrote on 04/29/16 at 09:09:51:
So I think im going for hte 140/90-15 rear but my question is why take the front to 110/90-19 is there something wrong with the recommended 100/90-19?.


No....the 100/90 is fine for the Cruiser.

Some folks just feel the need to put really big tires on the bike - so the bike has the appearance that makes them happy.

I run a 100/80 on my Cafe' bike, and I have even run a 90/90, and they both have plenty of tire to make the bike handle well.
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