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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Immigration fix........ Reply #15 - 04/22/15 at 03:25:34 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/22/15 at 00:21:52: If anyone wants my ideas , pmme. Ill send my number, you can call. Im not gonna bother typing my position to a bunch of morons. Bot......Jog needs a spank'n
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12847 Gender:	Re: Immigration fix........ Reply #16 - 04/22/15 at 17:31:41 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/22/15 at 00:21:52: If anyone wants my ideas , pmme. Ill send my number, you can call. Im not gonna bother typing my position to a bunch of morons. This coming from a 9/11 conspiracy mental giant......
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mpescatori Serious Thumper Offline Romanum Thumperium Cavalco, yeaaah !!! Posts: 3547 Rome, Italy Gender:	Re: Immigration fix........ Reply #17 - 04/23/15 at 06:42:22 Well, I have to say... some people speak as if their ancestors materialized into a completely uninhabited place, out of nowhere...
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Reply #18 - 04/23/15 at 15:12:57

As an ORIGINAL 'merican, one who's ancestors walked here, none of you speak the native language, although there's not just 1.

Went to china town in spain... did I hear chineese? no.
Go to any china town (or whatever) in 'merica and you hear chineese.
Sometimes you have to look around for an english speaker.

I'd have to say illegals are allowed to cross the border so they can be forced to work for minimum wage w/out benefits and R's & D's will never do any thing about it, there's too much at stake.

Even the current move to bring up the minimum wage is to reinforce it.

current move in Cali is to give all the illegals driving licenses. I guess so they'll buy insurance and stop with the 'hit and run' mentality. any one who does so ought to be deported to antartica.

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Reply #19 - 04/23/15 at 20:55:40

The flat tax is so inviting; yet some say it is regressive. I think an individual needs to earn close to 40K a year to slip over the border from poverty to just not middly classed. So I think 5% tax to every one whose gross income is under 40K ..they get to feel like they are contributing to the US (wether they want to or not). 10% for 40K-125K (again gross income), 15% to all above that. It is interesting that the wealthier can deduct their loses in the gambling or the stock market and also pay a lower tax rate than a salary say of a carpenter. (I say wealthier only because poorer people don't have the money to invest in the stock market, except thru their pension plan) Oh stop laughing,

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Reply #20 - 04/23/15 at 21:02:15

The home deduction interest deduction goes almost entirely to the wealthiest 10% of the population and is one of the most expensive "(entitlement??)programs the US tax code supports. Doing away with this would bring in substantial monies (which is the goal of taxation I believe). The so called death tax is another gifting to the already rich. With an exclusion of over a million dollars, there are very few homes or estates that would incur the tax (I certainly am not worth a mil). Small to medium size companies that are family owned are worth some real discussion, I certainly would hate to destroy a small business (eg motorcycle shop that's worth just over a mil by taxing it).

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Reply #21 - 04/23/15 at 21:11:29

I think this is why so many look at a national sales tax, but I suspect that much like meals taxes, only a portion are actually forwarded to the government. SO, make the 3 tier tax rate on all income without any deduction for loses or cost (that is gross revenue, not profit) A system change that would have to be implemented over a period of time, for sure. I suspect though that many might like to impose a national sales tax as it might be easier to collect from businesses than individuals. But I am against this, as I doubt that all goods and services would be reported (heck, lawyers don't even have to tax for their services). Oh well,

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Art Webb Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3007 columbus, Texas Gender:	Re: Immigration fix........ Reply #22 - 04/23/15 at 21:16:21 I prefer a consumption tax, currently many who have (illegal) incomes pay NO taxes A consumption tax fixes that, and we don't need a huge corrupt bureaucracy (IRS) to deal with the ridiculously complex tax code we currently have to deal with
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Reply #23 - 04/24/15 at 09:24:08

verslagen1 wrote on 04/23/15 at 15:12:57:

current move in Cali is to give all the illegals driving licenses. I guess so they'll buy insurance and stop with the 'hit and run' mentality. any one who does so ought to be deported to antartica.

They did that here in Connecticut.
I don't understand it. How can you be issued a driver's license if you're an illegal immigrant?
They said they same thing... "It'll cut down on uninsured motorists".
How?

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Reply #24 - 04/24/15 at 09:49:19

WhenAmerica was young and growing we needed a population, a workforce.
We are overwhelmed by unemployment and immigrants who didnt LEAVE their country to come and assimilate and become Americans. The same powers that are using our military are choosing to ignore the immigration laws and use good sense in how many people and their skills,etc, come here. A nation is like a huge corporation. Yes, they can go broke.

We don't hear a lot about Greece. How's your NEWS over there Pesci?
Ours is thin.

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Reply #25 - 04/27/15 at 01:54:28

The news about Greece (who have immigration issues with neighboring Turkey,but that's a 3000 y.o. struggle)
is that now that Greece are talking back with a snarl at Frau Angela Merkel, threatening to walk out on the EU and reinstate the Drachma,
SHE is all of a sudden looking sweet and compassionate and ready to lend a helping hand...
Huh

Which means that much of what is tut-tutted and loudmouthed by the Central European Bank just might be... bovine youknowwhat...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Immigration fix........ Reply #26 - 04/27/15 at 05:01:16 Good for Greece. You realize all that tut tutting was averted by Greece threatening to sink the Euro by bailing... Your take may be different. I'm willing to listen.
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Reply #27 - 04/27/15 at 05:39:45

Trippah wrote on 04/23/15 at 21:11:29:

I think this is why so many look at a national sales tax, but I suspect that much like meals taxes, only a portion are actually forwarded to the government. SO, make the 3 tier tax rate on all income without any deduction for loses or cost (that is gross revenue, not profit) A system change that would have to be implemented over a period of time, for sure. I suspect though that many might like to impose a national sales tax as it might be easier to collect from businesses than individuals. But I am against this, as I doubt that all goods and services would be reported (heck, lawyers don't even have to tax for their services). Oh well,

Trip; you've got a serious case of wealth envy.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Immigration fix........ Reply #28 - 04/27/15 at 07:12:06 If I make $50,000.00 and it Costs 48 to live, I pay taxes on 96% of my income with a national sales tax. Because I SPEND 96%.. But if I make$50,000,000.00 and spend a million.. Well, I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you.
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Reply #29 - 04/27/15 at 11:27:48

Trippah wrote on 04/23/15 at 21:11:29:

I think this is why so many look at a national sales tax, but I suspect that much like meals taxes, only a portion are actually forwarded to the government. SO, make the 3 tier tax rate on all income without any deduction for loses or cost (that is gross revenue, not profit) A system change that would have to be implemented over a period of time, for sure. I suspect though that many might like to impose a national sales tax as it might be easier to collect from businesses than individuals. But I am against this, as I doubt that all goods and services would be reported (heck, lawyers don't even have to tax for their services). Oh well,

So far as I know all services are non Taxable, at least in Tx
that mean no lawyer tax, no tax on LABOR when a mechanic works on your car, no tax on your Karate class or personal trainer services
PRODUCTS are taxed, (except for food) but not services

I highly doubt anyone who make 50 mill only spends 1 mill, and if they do, they're no worse than a guy who makes 400 a week and lives on 100. That's called being frugal

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