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06/02/14 at 13:44:49
 
What are you folks thinking about this deal? OHH how handy it is!
Suddenly, the VA mess is dwarfed,,


Which, btw, dumped a missing airliner in the memory hole,, Ohh how quickly the People forget,,
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Reply #1 - 06/02/14 at 15:29:03
 
I'm kinda' torn on this one...
-The circumstances of his capture are questionable...
- "No man left behind"...
- but,.. not negotiating with terrorists... Obama got away on a technicality with that one... because "the negotiation was with Qatar govn't, not terrorists".. the result is the same...
- I do believe it will encourage more kidnappings...
- and then,.. 5 for 1 trade?... and I assume these are real bad guys,.. not the innocents that got dragged along to GITMO...

...and so I sit, upon this fence... Huh...

PS.. I'm not gonna' buy that it was a "Wag the dog" distraction...
For one thing, this is too small to cause any distraction...
For two,.. the Veterans care issue is not politically one sided...
We all care about our vets, including Obama...
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Reply #2 - 06/02/14 at 18:22:17
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/02/14 at 13:44:49:
What are you folks thinking about this deal? OHH how handy it is!
Suddenly, the VA mess is dwarfed,,


Which, btw, dumped a missing airliner in the memory hole,, Ohh how quickly the People forget,,



I would describe the timing as impeccable.   Roll Eyes

One if the guys from his unit said he deserted his post.
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Reply #3 - 06/02/14 at 18:28:52
 
I am not sure, but I don't think we had anything to do with the missing airliner.  The VA has sucked as it really thinks it is in the WWI era, with the Administrators on short days and long links.  Their budget has been tripled but apparently no one gets off their butts to actually see what is going on.  (The usual).  As for Bowe - well he apparently walked off to meet with the Taliban.  Is he a sympathizer, or a deep cover spy or what ever you wan to think.  The guys traded for him were never tried so I suspect we have only circumstantial hearsay that they are bad guys.  We'll see if they want to hurt us anymore. Wink Wink
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Reply #4 - 06/02/14 at 19:52:36
 
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Reply #5 - 06/03/14 at 07:07:34
 
Whats bugging me,, hmm,, coupla things..
The justification

Suddenly, after 5 years of "captivity?" his life is in danger.. REally? Why? What changed? Is it related to the station chiefs recent "accidental" outing?

The , well,, ya cant REALLY call it negotiation,,because We didnt negotiate,, we caved,, in every demand, theyve wanted those same 5 guys, for ever since we have had them,,

What WE got for those 5 guys.

Someone who laid his gear down & walked off the base,,not captured in a battle, someone who, for all we know, JOINED them in their battles against our troops. Im not endorsing our even being there, so, Im sure not endorsing our mission & the killing, but at best, he deserted, at worst, he took up arms against his own troops.

Now, how much of the language did he know before he took that walk?
If zero, then Im gonna say he wasnt trained & sent in to infiltrate.
Another coupla things about the potential for infiltrating. It would seem to be a pretty slim odds kinda operation,, I mean,, why would he believe they wouldnt just torture & kill him? If he would turn against his own, why would they ever trust him? AND, since we ALL KNow the Taliban is already effectively defeated ( coff, coff) is there any real NEED to risk someone being killed to let them take a shot at being taken captive & trying to infiltrate?

& Whats the deal with Dad? REally? HE speaks Pashtun or whtever language that is? & I just heard dear old dad is following those bad guys on Twitter! He retweeted something he got ( I heard it on the radio, Ive no idea what a tweet is or a retweet,, is that like regifting on Christmas?) about how they attacked a base & "Killed as many as 25 cowardly American soldiers".. Now, once his boy is free & safe, is there some reason to be following the guys who had been holding him? &, excuse me,, but I have a real hard time picturing the Taliban out in wherever with cell phones & towers,, What kinda war doesnt destroy the infrastructure?? OHH, wait!  Maybe the same kinda "war" that creates an environment that allows an opium crop to go from the smallest ever under the Taliban rule to the largest ever once we ( You know, Murca, land of the whirlds Greatest Army, with equipment & herbicides & a VERY determined "war on drugs") got in there. OUR soldiers guard those poppy fields.. read that again, dont fail to grasp the full strength of what that means,,
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Reply #6 - 06/03/14 at 12:22:54
 
chips planted in the skulls of the 5
push a button and the cranium is removed from the rest of 'em Huh

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Reply #7 - 06/03/14 at 16:51:42
 
ill let his commanders judge his apparent desertion
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Reply #8 - 06/04/14 at 05:31:00
 
I always said Obama was the only President who never seemed to truly have his nation's best interest at heart, but even I never saw something as low as this......unbelievable. Absolutely unfingbelivable.....
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Reply #9 - 06/04/14 at 06:00:29
 
I'm starting to believe B. Hussein obama hates the USA like his preacher, you know, his preacher that hates the USA but got paid to shut-up
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Reply #10 - 06/04/14 at 10:40:06
 
I am waiting on more info.

But congress sure seems pissed.. and I don't mean JUST the pugs.. Dems are upset as well. According to them Obama broke the law. White house says.. hey we sent an email saying we had the constitutional authority to act regardless of the law. Pissing contest. I wonder who will win?

I do agree, the timing was great to get the publics mind off.. well everything else.

I think its great we got the guy back.. bring them all home.. is good ideal. Trading a hostage for prisoners of war... not so good.
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Reply #11 - 06/04/14 at 11:21:06
 
Bad move, coulda been easily hidden as the beginning of the end... closure of QB.

They release the POW's to Qatar, hold for a year, nut job 'escapes' we pick 'm up.

Yeah, I think the outing of the top spy made his health decline real quick.
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Reply #12 - 06/04/14 at 19:15:24
 
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Reply #13 - 06/04/14 at 20:06:15
 
Amen rat, amen.
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Reply #14 - 06/04/14 at 23:31:38
 
I won't "Amen" that... ...but it is funny... Grin...
I'm betting there'll be some tracking going on with those 5 released...
They may be bird dogs... leading our drones to the game... Huh...



If Bush did it,.. it would have been genius... but, it's evil that Obama uses drones...
I'm iffy, on the morality... but I'm iffy on the morality of most war and killing anyway...
Drones or AR-15's... is just semantics...
We have to face the fact... modern warfare, is evolving into a a video game...
The future of soldiers.. is in front of a screen...
I'm all for any technology that makes war faster, cleaner, with less friendly fire and non-combatant, death and bleeding...

I suspect Berghdahl has some serious esplainin' to do...
...but,.. ultimately.. the loose ends of a messy war are a messy thing to deal with...



Just like what Columbine did to mass shootings...
9/11 created a paradigm shift in the nature of war...
We attacked 2 nations, based on the actions of a radical band of renegades...
If it were to be accurately focused to a nation, we would have attacked Saudi Arabia...
... but they are our "frenemy"...
...(you know a paradigm shift has occurred,.. when we must use new words to explain it)...
Most Arab nations are our frenemies...
...(this is not say any people are bad,... just the people in power.
..the people wielding the power of money, guns, and gods)...
Huh...
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