WebsterMark wrote on 05/07/14 at 05:25:05:Some good points/questions for you in the settled science group should answer.
1) No Recent Warming. If global warming science is so “settled”, why did global warming stop over 15 years ago (in most temperature datasets), contrary to all “consensus” predictions?
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This simply gets ignored, while the alarmists continue to howl.
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2) Natural or Manmade? If we don’t know how much of the warming in the longer term (say last 50 years) is natural, then how can we know how much is manmade?
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Somehow the constant change of the conditions is ignored. There IS no baseline. Earth had Glaciers, why did they go away? Cave men & their fires?
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3) IPCC Politics and Beliefs. Why does it take a political body (the IPCC) to tell us what scientists “believe”? And when did scientists’ “beliefs” translate into proof? And when was scientific truth determined by a vote…especially when those allowed to vote are from the Global Warming Believers Party?
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In the 70's the scientists were predicting a mini Ice Age.. & That proved ridiculously erroneous, as in WRONG. BUT,. NOW we are all supposed to run quivering over these dire predictions. By now, according to their howls of coming doom, we should have NO ice in the Atlantic.
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4) Climate Models Can’t Even Hindcast How did climate modelers, who already knew the answer, still fail to explain the lack of a significant temperature rise over the last 30+ years? In other words, how to you botch a hindcast?
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Well? Good question..
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5) …But We Should Believe Model Forecasts? Why should we believe model predictions of the future, when they can’t even explain the past?
6) Modelers Lie About Their “Physics”. Why do modelers insist their models are based upon established physics, but then hide the fact that the strong warming their models produce is actually based upon very uncertain “fudge factor” tuning?
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In order to gather the data the climate models were built upon, they installed thermometers in "New" places. On roof tops & by runways,, GEE,, Ya mean they were hotter? AND, they ceased using some data gathering stations that were located in more reasonable places. AND, ALL the data that this great study is based on has been destroyed,,
Gee,, talk about Scientific Method..
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7) Is Warming Even Bad? Who decided that a small amount of warming is necessarily a bad thing?
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Nuther good ?
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8) Is CO2 Bad? How did carbon dioxide, necessary for life on Earth and only 4 parts in 10,000 of our atmosphere, get rebranded as some sort of dangerous gas?
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Uh Huhh,, by decree, one of lifes necessities gets labeled a hazard
Orwell anyone?
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9) Do We Look that Stupid? How do scientists expect to be taken seriously when their “theory” is supported by both floods AND droughts? Too much snow AND too little snow?
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HA! Here your ignorance SHOWS!! Dont you know that some drugs come with the warning
May cause constipation OR Diarrhea?
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10) Selective Pseudo-Explanations. How can scientists claim that the Medieval Warm Period (which lasted hundreds of years), was just a regional fluke…yet claim the single-summer (2003) heat wave in Europe had global significance?
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What? YOu want consistency in thinking?
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11) (Spinal Tap bonus) Just How Warm is it, Really? Why is it that every subsequent modification/adjustment to the global thermometer data leads to even more warming? What are the chances of that? Either a warmer-still present, or cooling down the past, both of which produce a greater warming trend over time. And none of the adjustments take out a gradual urban heat island (UHI) warming around thermometer sites, which likely exists at virtually all of them — because no one yet knows a good way to do that.o
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Ohh, before the drive to create a data stream that would allow them to pretend there was some horrid thing afoot they had data collection sites in areas away from dense population areas. Those got eliminated over time.