& for all those who have told me Im crazy for believing the goobs were doing the things Ive said they were doing,, if youre not yet awake, Id say its time to open those eyes. This Snowden guy is TRYING, he is absolutely giving up Everything, in order to give people the insight into what THEY are doing. Theyre using OUR $$$ to develop a surveillance grid that allows them to know exactly WHO among us oppose them,,

I don't have much information on this person Snowden, for me to assign motivation to his action would be purely an assumption on my part with heavy prejudice deciding what is "fact" (truth).
What concerns me is when you have opposing political foes as those who host, and guest, on FOX news, etc, agreeing on this activity..... I can't help but wonder where this will lead. We can never, ever, ascertain our safety in such a manner without forfeiting some of our freedoms.
I believe the terrorist, who have struck their targets against our way of life, saw this was indeed our Achilles heel, and it appears the body count (damage) it afflicted, continues to mount, and grow, with each passing day, as we move further and further away from freedom, to a captive lifestyle, based solely upon fear.....

Where I live I have access to Canadian airwaves. They are reporting their own such programs.
This surely prompts the question: "Who won the war?"

Then of course he ran to HongKong and wants to get asylum in iceland. I think that's the holy trinity of guilt. Fool.
He's gonna get a Jail cell, with the Bradley Manning as a roomie (who BTW did exactly the same but Under the Bushies administration).

Cool.
Srinath.

Is it possible for you to set aside your prejudice of this person and address the underlying issue?
Is this surveillance something you agree with, or do you just attack the messenger because it bodes ill with the current president?

Has this been something that was in operation in the past, most likely. Has its practice been justified, most definitely.  

As with a seed planted....it can take months till it sprouts, maybe even years, given to some climates that don't readily support growth.
Was this seed planted after 911, or before, does it really matter?

Nevertheless, it has sprouted, or the Genie has fully left her bottle, now what?
More name calling, or blaming who made the matches, or who struck it......as Rome burns?

srinath wrote on 06/11/13 at 10:41:44:


Yes, a hero. When he figured out what was really going on he went public regardless of the consequences to himself. Manning is a different case. The stuff he leaked actually put the lives of specific individuals in danger. Snowden, at least up to this point, simply blew the lid off a government program that never should have been allowed to happen in the first place.

The justification for this massive invasion of privacy is that it is somehow needed to protect us from terrorists. That's a load of crap. It's real purpose is to provide the means for whomever happens to be in power to target their political enemies.
This kind of ties in with the other thread on here about how much you can trust the government. As far as I'm concerned, you can't trust them enough to allow programs like this to exist and expect that they won't be abused.

Snowden violated his oath huh. What about the oath that everyone of those clowns in washington took to uphold the constitution. And then voted for this Sh*t.

So snowy has done irrepairable harm?
But the pres can tell the whole world we got bin laden and all his computers, and every scrap of paper and we're gonna track down every one of them.