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04/07/13 at 19:28:49
 
When I need to keep things in perspective, a visit to any political message board fits the bill. Why anyone could invest any energy into believing politicians really care about anything other than themselves is beyond me. Oh sure, they will feign and act accordingly, but only after they dissect the issue/problem to see which side of the tit offers the most milk.....
Yeah, they care about D's and R's and the tooth fairy AFTER they assure more money and power to themselves implementing useful fools in the process.....and the press/media, works for them, untold billions are raised and spent campaigning through their outlets and airwaves.

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Reply #1 - 04/07/13 at 19:55:44
 
well said
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Reply #2 - 04/12/13 at 19:03:37
 
45acp wrote on 04/07/13 at 19:55:44:
well said


Thank you.......

Yeah, mirrors can be hard to look at. Most people really have no idea how indoctrination has distorted their depth perception.

A question to all, if you can. Do you welcome opposing beliefs, and views, as an opportunity to challenge your own, or do you buttress, and defend, them instead?

I know I have witnessed more closed minds, by those touting their own open-mindedness..... as if their own witness, and testimony, of themselves, make it true  Shocked  
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Reply #3 - 04/12/13 at 19:17:05
 
While all of this is true ... no one is under any illusion that any side is good in absolute terms.

The only thing worse than this side my friend, is that side.

Being Open minded doesn't always imply open to everything. It may just mean open to some things. Example: I am open to gay marriage equality. I am not open to being gay.

So isn't that me being a hypocrite ... or is that me being close minded.

Yea whatever ... I dont care for labels, and I dont care for being judged and dont care if you are whatever you want to say you are or not.

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Reply #4 - 04/12/13 at 19:18:02
 
Hard to say Ray... I never swallowed the bilge of multiculturalism, organized religion, etc. I was raised as though it was still the late 40s or early 50s and none of the pc pansy-fication had been started.
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Reply #5 - 04/12/13 at 20:08:25
 
srinath wrote on 04/12/13 at 19:17:05:
While all of this is true ... no one is under any illusion that any side is good in absolute terms.

The only thing worse than this side my friend, is that side.

Being Open minded doesn't always imply open to everything. It may just mean open to some things. Example: I am open to gay marriage equality. I am not open to being gay.

So isn't that me being a hypocrite ... or is that me being close minded.

Yea whatever ... I dont care for labels, and I dont care for being judged and dont care if you are whatever you want to say you are or not.

Cool.
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Lol....I'd not label you as a hypocrite (by what you wrote), no, but I could easily cast you as a contradiction  Kiss
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Reply #6 - 04/12/13 at 20:18:42
 
WD wrote on 04/12/13 at 19:18:02:
Hard to say Ray... I never swallowed the bilge of multiculturalism, organized religion, etc. I was raised as though it was still the late 40s or early 50s and none of the pc pansy-fication had been started.


Swallowed.....oh yeah, then it wasn't sex  Grin  Sorry, me bad, but Clinton just came to mind and I'm very impulsive at times  Roll Eyes

Well you might not have swallowed it WD. but nevertheless, just being exposed to it through public policies, media, music, arts, etc....you have had to nibble on it, or live in a cave.

I am not putting any stamp on it you understand, but, by your own testimony, via the verbiage you close with, tells me it has indeed infringed upon your world to a point where you assign it as such.....
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Reply #7 - 04/12/13 at 22:35:20
 
I'll admit to being born a couple hundred years too late...

I remember western WA before it was a..hmmm... not sure how to describe it now to be honest. So liberal it makes San Francisco look like 3rd Reich Berlin comes to mind...  Roll Eyes

Boeing, Martinac and Todd (shipyards), and the timber companies ran the state. Tucci and other mobbed up construction companies had a lot of pull then, but not like they did when I was back out there from 11/01-3/11... And there was no way card carrying commies like Locke and Gregoire were ever more than minor functionaries (instead of multi term governors who drug the state into the sewers to appease King County and other hotbeds of "the world owes me whatever I want" lunacy).

I can also remember quite generous daily bag limits for fishing and hunting, before the game dept got castrated and was no longer allowed to prosecute immigrants who were poaching. I remember free punch cards for salmon, no card needed for crab, steelhead, shellfish (except razor clams)... State parks that were not transient camps or meth labs... Evergreen was the only shame of the state college system...

Rant over (for now). At least here in the civilized world I can get 3 deer a day, all 3 seasons, for free...
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Reply #8 - 04/12/13 at 22:43:34
 
WD wrote on 04/12/13 at 22:35:20:
I'll admit to being born a couple hundred years too late...

I remember western WA before it was a..hmmm... not sure how to describe it now to be honest. So liberal it makes San Francisco look like 3rd Reich Berlin comes to mind...  Roll Eyes

Boeing, Martinac and Todd (shipyards), and the timber companies ran the state. Tucci and other mobbed up construction companies had a lot of pull then, but not like they did when I was back out there from 11/01-3/11... And there was no way card carrying commies like Locke and Gregoire were ever more than minor functionaries (instead of multi term governors who drug the state into the sewers to appease King County and other hotbeds of "the world owes me whatever I want" lunacy).

I can also remember quite generous daily bag limits for fishing and hunting, before the game dept got castrated and was no longer allowed to prosecute immigrants who were poaching. I remember free punch cards for salmon, no card needed for crab, steelhead, shellfish (except razor clams)... State parks that were not transient camps or meth labs... Evergreen was the only shame of the state college system...

Rant over (for now). At least here in the civilized world I can get 3 deer a day, all 3 seasons, for free...


Wow, I've been gone a while but I didn't know it was that bad now. Went to Spokane in '96 and left the State in '01. I heard Dino Rossi lost to Gregoire after, like, the 4th or 5th recount and I knew the State was done. I go back to visit family but, yeah, even my conservative high school friends have switched teams but can't explain why. They spout the liberal talking points but break down after the first question I ask. They weren't give answers, just talking points. Pretty sad.
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Reply #9 - 04/12/13 at 22:55:55
 
So you know my sell out traitor little brother... who went from belonging the both the Sinn Fein and IRA, plus the American Nazi Party, who was a hard drinking, hard fighting typical Tacoma area thug... to having triplet girls with a psychotic ex-Mormon NYC/Dallas liberal who made him dump his sports car for an imported econobox sedan.
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Reply #10 - 04/14/13 at 13:34:53
 
I can't speak for anywhere other than where I live on the island, and yes, its a melting pot. We have many artist residing here, who bend to the left in the public eye, but in private conversations, they get more conservative when it comes to personal beliefs/choices, etc.

We also have a fairly large Lesbian population on this end of the island, and again, most live a very conservative lifestyle, yet endorse candidates pushed by the main stream media....

And of course we have a large segment of "sportsmen" who hunt, fish, etc, and I'd say they pretty much split a ticket, as they share a lot of environmental issues with the left. I'd guess that number will change tho because of the push against firearms..... not sure.

Most here live in harmony, very accepting and appreciative of ALL the diversity, beliefs, and POV's. I guess the small town influences holds more sway than the divisive crap you see in the media.

TV and major newspapers really aren't very popular out here....talking, and living life in person, as opposed to the tube, and INTERNET, etc, trump....
When you live life as such, you find out we all share a lot more in common, than that which separates us.

Nothing new with that, just forgotten in today's mindset is all  Grin
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Reply #11 - 04/14/13 at 14:31:01
 
If you want to go hunting for the worst legislation ever passed go look for "Bi-Partisan Agreements",, neither party wants to be remembered as responsible & the globalists who are actually calling the shots demand it be passed, so, after much hand wringing & publicity showing members of both party looking down, kicking the dirt,, looking uncomfortable & talking about "The HARD Choices" they somehow manage to "Come Together" & screw us,, I mean, Do the best thing for the country..
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Reply #12 - 04/14/13 at 16:56:37
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/14/13 at 14:31:01:
If you want to go hunting for the worst legislation ever passed go look for "Bi-Partisan Agreements",, neither party wants to be remembered as responsible & the globalists who are actually calling the shots demand it be passed, so, after much hand wringing & publicity showing members of both party looking down, kicking the dirt,, looking uncomfortable & talking about "The HARD Choices" they somehow manage to "Come Together" & screw us,, I mean, Do the best thing for the country..


Well JOG I can't rebut your observation in factual content....but if we dig a little deeper perhaps we might find the root cause. Politicians have long ago abandoned leadership roles where they stake a claim, rising or falling accordingly. Today they all employ focus groups, polls, etc, trying to decide the best choice, or side, to take.....much like advertising firms trying to market a product with the best chance of success (sales). They have spin doctors who repair their lies, etc.

But lets be honest here, we, you and I, and everyone reading this, have abrogated our own responsibility in assuring our brothers and sisters needs are met at the neighborly level.....opting instead to let the government handle it, and I can't think of one program they do efficiently. Once vested with the responsibility, they use it to empower themselves....and you only need look at history to see how it has been deployed.          
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But lets be honest here, we, you and I, and everyone reading this, have abrogated our own responsibility in assuring our brothers and sisters needs are met at the neighborly level.....


Maybe our " brothers and sisters" ought to be workin'a little harder to meet their own needs instead of assuming it's our(or the government's) responsibility. Let's be honest here. Maybe you been sippin on some of that socialist kool-aid thats goin' around. Helpin' out a neighbor down on his luck now and then is one thing - providing for their NEEDS is something else altogether.
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Reply #14 - 04/14/13 at 19:46:33
 
oldNslow wrote on 04/14/13 at 18:13:57:
raydog wrote:
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But lets be honest here, we, you and I, and everyone reading this, have abrogated our own responsibility in assuring our brothers and sisters needs are met at the neighborly level.....


Maybe our " brothers and sisters" ought to be workin'a little harder to meet their own needs instead of assuming it's our(or the government's) responsibility. Let's be honest here. Maybe you been sippin on some of that socialist kool-aid thats goin' around. Helpin' out a neighbor down on his luck now and then is one thing - providing for their NEEDS is something else altogether.


I honestly don't think so.....

I think those who you find wanting are just a symptom of a greater problem, which I alluded to previously. Most folk thrive when given an opportunity, self worth being the greatest asset in doing so....a great repair/solution to addictions (of all kinds) and mental health.

I love the analogy of the good Samaritan,  still has a ton o' merit even in today's "advanced" societies.  
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