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Reply #300 - 02/25/19 at 05:51:38
 
The Battlax BT45 had a noticeably harder center tread on the Ninja250 and you could see where the two compounds joined......but I never saw that on the BT45 tires mounted on the Savage Cafe' - the center of the tread wore out about the same rate as the Pirelli tires and I seriously doubt that it came with a harder center compound even though there advertising claimed it did (it has a flat center as if all I did was ride interstate highways)..........and the front tire has a blocky tread pattern that wears out on the sides quickly - I won't be using the BT45's anymore.  My next set of tires to try is going to be the Michelin Pilot Sport Activ.

I don't ever recall saying I wanted 17" tires......I may have said that there was more choices in 17" tire.

The Kawasaki pulley conversion is a nice upgrade to reduce the engine rpm at cruising speeds.  The change in gearing for the larger wheels and the Kawasaki pulley is fine with me, as I am not a drag racer and my modified engine works just fine with the taller gearing.  The Kawasaki front pulley makes the gearing taller and works fine with the stock engine...the Kawasaki rear pulley makes the gearing even taller and works best with a modified engine (although Badwolf uses both pulleys with a stock motor - but he does lots of long distance touring and is not too worried about rapid acceleration).  Most who have done just the front pulley say they don't notice any drop in acceleration after the change - but there likely is a small change.

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The 7" headlights work just fine and provides far more light than the stock Savage headlight.  My 8" headlight is an acquired taste - some like it and some think it looks a bit out of place.  If you are used to seeing the small 5" and 6" headlights that come on modern cruisers....my headlight looks mutant in comparison.
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Reply #301 - 02/25/19 at 10:32:58
 
Thanks for the quick reply

Do you have any info on how to recalibrate a speedo?

Youve done a lot to raise the rear and lower the front. I assume to get it to steer better. I would be interested to read your impressions of how this worked.

I will look forward to reading about your engine mods.

Thanks again for shedding light on subjects my cruiser and sport bike friends have little or no experience with

Thanks again
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Reply #302 - 02/25/19 at 10:50:56
 
Grinin wrote on 02/25/19 at 10:32:58:
Do you have any info on how to recalibrate a speedo?
GPS speedometer....works with any combination of gearing, tire and rim changes.

You've done a lot to raise the rear and lower the front. I assume to get it to steer better. I would be interested to read your impressions of how this worked.
Come see if you can keep up! Roll Eyes

I will look forward to reading about your engine mods.
Wiseco 94mm piston, Stage 3 Webcam, ported head, 36mm Mikuni, light flywheel, better muffler.....the standard stuff for more power.


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Reply #303 - 04/15/19 at 16:21:41
 
Dave wrote on 09/13/13 at 05:39:46:
I have not been happy with the brightness of the turn signals.  They are small and look good on the bike - but they use a small 23 watt bulb turned sideways and there is no reflector.  This causes the inside half of the lense not to be illuminated well as that is where the socket is for the bulb.

I found some really cool LED bulbs that are wired for 12V, have a high powered 1.5 Watt LED, and have a flat mounting surface with 2 sided foam tape already installed.

http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/led-wired-bolts/plm-series-wired-one-...

This is the stock turn signal socket and light.

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This is the stock housing with a stainless metal mounting plate I cut, along with 2 of the LED lights.

http://i42.tinypic.com/16bk7di.jpg

This is the light housing with the LED's mounted and wired.

http://i40.tinypic.com/14tq4y0.jpg

This is the rear turn signals which have not yet been converted.

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This is the much brighter LED's in the front turn signals.

http://i42.tinypic.com/66vr0w.jpg

The turn signals are now much brighter.....and hopefully can be seen better in direct sunlight where the original bulbs were inadequate.



Dave,  Do you have more detail on how you did this (page 12 on your build)?  I purchased these LED lights from superbrightleds.  I also purchased resistors.  I am interested in putting two LED's in each blinker like you show here.  Does that mean I have to install two resistors (one for each LED)?  Do you have a drawing  on how you wired it?  

I tried to view the video you had on page 13, but was unable to open it.

Thanks for your help.  The blinkers are and head/tail lights are the last thing for me on my build.
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Reply #304 - 04/16/19 at 09:08:32
 
I did not use resistors - I installed an electronic flasher module instead of using the stock flasher module.  No sense wasting electricity in a resistor when an electronic flasher is cheap and more reliable than the mechanical one.

I don't have many photos of the turn signal mod.  The Superbright lights have a sticky foam tape on the back, so I just made a small metal plate that would fit in the turn signal housing and epoxied it in place with JB Weld.  I then could run the wires behind the plate.  The wires from the lights are spliced together (splice together parallel circuit) inside the turn signal housing and hidden behind the plate.  With LED's you need to be sure the polarity is correct - or they won't illuminate.
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Reply #305 - 04/16/19 at 14:47:00
 
OK. Thanks Dave.  I ordered an electronic flasher module from superbrightleds.  I also ordered a diode kit.  Looks like I may need this for the instrument panel flasher light?
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Reply #306 - 04/18/19 at 05:00:56
 
playhard67 wrote on 04/16/19 at 14:47:00:
 I also ordered a diode kit.  Looks like I may need this for the instrument panel flasher light?


Nope....you don't need the diode kit.
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Reply #307 - 08/22/19 at 22:39:34
 
Dave I like the big headlight look but I cant seem to find 8 inch headlights or buckets.  Im told there is a 7 incher that will make the night look like day.
I will be riding on tree lined country roads a would like to see well. Have you any suggestions on 8 inchers  or have you seen a great 7 incher?
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Reply #308 - 08/23/19 at 04:22:28
 
If you want a big 8" headlight - you have to go vintage as nobody makes new ones.  They were used on the Suzuki GS1100 - but I can't remember which year......the also used 7" lights on the bike so if you are searching eBay they need to tell you it is the 8" light.  The bucket on the GS has 2 round and one oval hole for wiring.  If you install a good LED bulb they throw out a lot of light.

Here is one that is a pretty good price.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Suzuki-GS1100-OEM-LARGE-8-Headlight-Complete-GS...

The headlight that I used is from a Yamaha 920 Virago.  It has only 2 holes in the back of the bucket.  I don't see any on eBay at the moment, you have to be careful as they also made 7" headlights and they look the same.  They are expensive when they are for sale if the seller knows the market.


If you want a 7" you can do it considerably cheaper.  You can buy new ones like this one from Dime City.....or there are lots of ones available on eBay from used bikes.  Dime City also has lights that are chrome or have the domes backs like British bikes used.  I used the one from Dime City on the little Ninja 250 that I built as a Cafe bike.  It was a good headlight - the only flaw was the paint on the inside of the bucket did not have complete coverage and I had to paint the inside before I used it.  The inside of the light is a little cramped for wiring when you add an LED bulb that has a driver separate from the bulb - but I was able to make it all fit. The British style lights with the domed back most likely has more room.
https://www.dimecitycycles.com/black-and-chrome-7-inch-metric-style-headlight...

Mounting any of these headlights requires you to buy brackets to fit the sides.
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Reply #309 - 07/04/20 at 04:04:39
 
In order to rebuild the photos in this thread, I need to find a place where I can create and store the URL's that TinyPic destroyed when they stopped hosting photos.

As a Moderator I have the ability to trim/delete posts - so likely I will also clean up the stuff that does not have any relevance anymore.  

In the mean time I will post a few photos to show the end result.

This is the bike as it currently exists.  I have put about 12,000 miles on it since the build, worn out 3 sets of tires, and had an issue with a fork brace that put lateral pressure on the fork tubes and wore out the lower tubes and bushings:

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Reply #310 - 07/04/20 at 04:08:15
 
This is a close up of the large 8" headlight from a 920 Yamaha Virago.  The headlight mounts were made from the stock turn signal mounts.  The bulb is a Cyclops LED and is very bright.

I switched over to 7/8" handlebars so I could lose the large cruiser style handlebar controls and switches.  This shows the Honda master cylinder from an ATV (had the brake light switch built in), the right electric switch is Kawasaki KLR 650, the clutch lever is Suzuki GSXR 650, the left electrical control is GSXR 1000. The fuel tank is Suzuki GT380/550.  The speedometer is from SpeedHut and has a both speed and tach in the same housing and the antenna is Velcro'd to the top of the master cylinder.
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Reply #311 - 07/04/20 at 04:13:27
 
Here is the photo of my current front fender mount.  Previously it was bolted to the bottom edge of my fork brace - but when I removed the fork brace I needed a place to mount the fender.  I cut up a stock fender and removed the metal brace that is underneath.  I had to cut a small bit of the bottom and drill new holes to lower the brace to fit my 18" wheel and small 90/90-18 tire, and clean up the rust.
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Reply #312 - 07/04/20 at 04:15:22
 
This is what the new fender mount looks like.
(I have another fender I am working on that will not need this mount and it will just bolt to the fork legs....it also has the metal reinforcement underneath to help stiffen up the forks).
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Reply #313 - 07/04/20 at 17:01:00
 
Looks good Dave. Did you steal that headlight off a train ? It’s huge ! You should try a speed run without it , I bet you time and/or top speed would be better. Nice job , really stands out , straight out motorcycle porn. Outstanding work , love that tank.
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Reply #314 - 07/04/20 at 18:25:18
 
Ruttly wrote on 07/04/20 at 17:01:00:
Looks good Dave. Did you steal that headlight off a train ? It’s huge ! You should try a speed run without it , I bet you time and/or top speed would be better.


There are two motorcycles that had the 8" headlight for a year or two. Suzuki GS1100E, and Yamaha 920 Virago.  BMW also had an 8" headlight for a while - but their headlight bucket is really deep and wouldn't work on this bike.

I think you are correct about the speed runs.  When I get close to 100 the bike begins to wander badly.....the front end feels like it is just skimming on the pavement and it won't hold a straight line.  It is really scary!  I have only tried to find the terminal velocity on this bike twice - a year apart. The first time I wanted to see if the bike could "Do the Ton", and it went 101.1 mph and I had a TrailTech Vapor speedometer driven by the front wheel.  The second time I wanted to see if I could do better and confirm the top speed with my GPS speedometer - I got exactly 101 mph again.    

There was one forum member who mounted a tool roll on the front of his forks under his headlight, and he got the same unsteady steering that I believe the big headlight creates.

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