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farva66 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #300 - 03/29/14 at 18:38:32 I have been reading for like half and hour now and I can't seem to find a solid answer.... I know it will be out of price point, I don't mind spending a little more to not need additives. Is the red line 10w40 motorcycle oil a good to go oil no additive needed?
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #301 - 03/29/14 at 19:25:36 Take a look at this. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344471565
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farva66 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #302 - 03/29/14 at 19:46:01 pg wrote on 03/29/14 at 19:25:36: Take a look at this. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344471565 thanks i saw that just wanted to double check thanks again
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shorty Serious Thumper Offline be careful out there gentlemen Posts: 547 southern NM Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #303 - 03/30/14 at 06:43:58 diesels are primitive engines and Rotella seems fine without adding additives, too much zinc is bad too.. anybody else using white jug (petro) Rotella straight-up??
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Reply #304 - 05/20/14 at 20:42:14

Hi i have been reading about the ZDDp additives for the last hour I had bought motormaster motorcycle oil for the savage before reading about the ZDDP additive which i believe is made by shell but im not sure if it has ZDDP http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-formula-1-4-stroke-motorcycle-oi... (MSDS sheet for the motormaster oil) http://msds.canadiantire.ca/OpenRepositoryFile.asp?s=89304&v=7, I did ask the question on the CT website about ZDDP but who knows when they will answer or if they will have a clue.

I also seen that Rotella T Triple Protection was recommended and i believe my local walmart has it. Would this be the type that I need? http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/rotella-t-triple-protection-5l/6000016946267?gcli... If so i will run out and pick some up.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28787 L.A. California Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #305 - 05/20/14 at 21:01:13 haven't found that they asked the right question yet. they did say it's... MotoMaster Formula 1 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil meets API SH/SG and JASO MA. this should mean it has it rotella T is the stuff we like.
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Reply #306 - 05/20/14 at 21:26:54

verslagen1 wrote on 05/20/14 at 21:01:13:

haven't found that they asked the right question yet.

they did say it's...
MotoMaster Formula 1 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil meets API SH/SG and JASO MA.

this should mean it has it

rotella T is the stuff we like.

you can see the question about ZDDp that i asked about the motomaster motorcycle oil listed on the ct site now http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-formula-1-4-stroke-motorcycle-oi... not sure ill get a proper answer though. If not ill be safe putting the rotella t in when i change the oil .

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Reply #307 - 05/23/14 at 07:20:54

I am not sure If Amsoil has been mentioned for recommended oil but I asked Amsoil about some of their oils and they told me about this one.

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-10w-40-synthetic...

API SL, SJ, SH, SG
API CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CF, CF-2
ISO-L-EMA
Caterpillar ECF-1
JASO MA (Motorcycle)
MAN 271/3275
MTU Type 2
Cummins 20071/20072/20076/20077
VDS-2, VDS
Mack EO-M+
ACEA A3/B3, E3, E5
MB 228.3, 229.1
Detroit Diesel 93K214

Answer From Amsoil Rep: The 10w-40 premium protection motor oil (AMO) is high in ZDDP you are looking at Zinc levels of 1378 PPM and Phos. levels of 1265 PPM. This is a great oil for the older style flat tappet cams.

Also:
Amsoil 10W-40 Advanced Synthetic Motorcycle Oil Has 1436 PPM of Zinc and 1321 PPM of Phos. Another good oil for a flat tappet system.

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/motorcycle/10w-40-advanced-sy...

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Reply #308 - 05/23/14 at 07:30:26

doh13 wrote on 05/23/14 at 07:20:54:

I am not sure If Amsoil has been mentioned for recommended oil but I asked Amsoil about some of their oils and they told me about this one.

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-10w-40-synthetic...

Answer From Amsoil Rep: The 10w-40 premium protection motor oil (AMO) is high in ZDDP you are looking at Zinc levels of 1378 PPM and Phos. levels of 1265 PPM. This is a great oil for the older style flat tappet cams.

I suppose that the Amsoil willl do just fine. But why do you want to pay $ 11 a quart for oil that you have to order online.....or try and find a local dealer that will stock that? Can't you get Rotella in Canada?

Shell Rotella T that is about $ 12 a gallon, is available just about anywhere in the US, and provides all the lubrication and protection that is needed.

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Reply #309 - 05/23/14 at 07:47:02

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I suppose that the Amsoil willl do just fine. But why do you want to pay $ 11 a quart for oil that you have to order online.....or try and find a local dealer that will stock that? Can't you get Rotella in Canada?

Shell Rotella T that is about $ 12 a gallon, is available just about anywhere in the US, and provides all the lubrication and protection that is needed.

Oh yea I can get Rotella t at walmart in canada at a good price I was just throwing out another type of oil that should have A1 protection in the savage and its less than 12 bucks per quart (for the rules) which isnt cheap by any means but I have ordered amsoil online before and its much cheaper than buying it at the store (Canadian tire wants $20.99 a quart for amsoil motorcycle oil Last time i looked!).

I remember paying $16 per quart for Mobil 1 syn a few years back at walmart) stuff isn't cheap in Canada ! :'( BTW i think i will be using the motor master Motorcycle oil from canadian tire that i had already bought on sale for 5 something a quart since it suppose to meet the specs (not sure of the ZDDP because they haven't answered the question yet) then i will likely switch to the rotella t.

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doh13 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 67 NS CANADA	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #310 - 05/27/14 at 18:57:55 I just found out that the MotoMaster Formula 1 Motorcycle Oil from Canadian tire that I bought on sale has ZDDP . "The product typically contains about 1150 ppm zinc" so that's a little on the low side if 1200 ppm is the min but probably still useable without ZDDP booster added?
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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1393 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #311 - 05/28/14 at 20:56:28 Bought 2 litres of ROT-T 15w40 today at wally. Noticed on same shelf VALVOLINE VR-1 specifically mentions ZDDP. Worth a shot?
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ls650v Junior Member Offline 97 savage Posts: 73 Clinton Twp, MI Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #312 - 05/29/14 at 01:58:43 I believe that VR-1 has molly. Not good for a wet clutch. Stick with oil that is JASO MA rated. From the Valvoline website: VR-1 has "Additional friction modfiers to help deliver maximum horsepower". Yep, don't want to use this in your bike.
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DesertRat Serious Thumper Offline I love rat bikes! Posts: 1569 Arizona	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #313 - 09/28/15 at 15:41:04 So, is ZDDP Booster REQUIRED when purchasing Rotella T Triple Protection 15W40?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #314 - 09/28/15 at 15:47:08 I ran the Rotella 15/40, Dino, just plain oil,, it's good stuff. But, a little zddp added can't hurt hoot, cost and hassle are minimal. If i planned on making the 100,000 mile club, I probably would. And I'd probably be looking for a way to get a throw out machined out of billet.
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