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Question: Side Stand Oil Method -- do you or don't you?
Yep, I do it on the sidestand Nope, I balance it vertical using ..... .... my manservant, Emanuel Dexterity .... a friend, buxom female preferably .... a brick, a block of wood, other thick item *.... a stick (Sluggo can explain it) Remove timing port, fill till it comes out (V1) .... I don't ever have to check it (Bill)** « Last Modified by: verslagen1 on: 07/31/11 at 20:17:02 »

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #30 - 08/01/11 at 10:37:14 No blowby, no engine wear,No dirty oil
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drums1 Serious Thumper Offline '87 Savage Bashed--Down for the count Posts: 664 Racine, Wisconsin Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #31 - 08/01/11 at 13:23:02 Man, if my engine wasn't messed up, and I trusted a short road trip, I'd ride down by Bill67 and FORCE him to ride with me. He is only about 50 miles from me.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28387 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #32 - 08/01/11 at 13:28:35 If you ever do... make him go all the way around the block... ...
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #33 - 08/01/11 at 13:43:54 Oh no, no body's con in me in to that trip.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12639 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #34 - 08/01/11 at 14:17:16 Worse yet, get a short movie of him sitting on his bike with it idling ..... ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky .......
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Re: side stand oil method
Reply #35 - 08/01/11 at 15:15:30

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/01/11 at 14:17:16:

Worse yet, get a short movie of him sitting on his bike with it idling .....

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Re: side stand oil method
Reply #36 - 08/01/11 at 15:18:33

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/01/11 at 09:55:04:

Yep, especially them folks with syn oils that are good for 3-4 times the mileage they actually put on the bike between changes.

Back in school we had to do some sort of real world study on powerplants as a requirement for an A&P. The team I was on chose to study how long the oil would last compared to the length of time an engine was run each time between cooldowns.

To cut to the chase, if an engine is in good shape (meaning not much blow-by), and it ran for about 20-30 minutes AFTER it warmed up all the way (to boil off the goop from the condensation created during startup), the oil would last for WAY beyond the manufacturer’s (both oil and engine) recommendations. This would be even more true for motorcycle/automotive engines because they are under much less thermal stress than air-cooled aircraft motors.

If you yahoo search (please not google) the subject, you can find lots of chemical engineers in forums making the same point – changing your oil every 3,000 miles is just plain wasteful. Some of them say they change their oil every 10,000 miles or so.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #37 - 08/01/11 at 15:53:41 When I was in high school,A buddy of mines dad didn't believe in changing oil he just kept adding if and when it needed it, He was a farmer and had tractors and other farm machinery that he never changed the oil in.That was back in the 50's.
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Re: side stand oil method
Reply #38 - 08/01/11 at 16:30:43

How many bikes here are spittin oil on the sidestand method ? I never heard of it till Versal said his does, only because its a little loose in the top end I'd guess??
I know mine sure don't. I checked it this morning before starting.....it was at low line. After 25 miles of 40-50 very wine-dy roads, I took a break........back in the woods by a stream, and just happened to notice the oil level was at the hi line,........surprised me it changed that much. And never any sign of spittin oil.
Anyway, if I even had a hint of my bike spittin oil, I would drop the SS method in a heart beat. But I thought it was determined a long time ago that the SS levels don't hurt a thing. And normally, I don't believe it does, or no one would do it.

Now, why did I say all that ? I'm gonna do what I do anyway, and so are you all !

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Re: side stand oil method
Reply #39 - 08/01/11 at 16:54:42

verslagen1 wrote on 07/31/11 at 20:18:27:

I can not go with high oil levels, the super motox course I take (aka interstate 5) causes the oil to spit out the breather.

If all the roads I take were as good as the dragon or I drove around like bill... but I don't, I tell you I have seen zero g's. and oil don't stay put that way.

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DrunkenDwarf Senior Member Offline Morning Zombie Posts: 325 Seattle, WA Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #40 - 08/01/11 at 23:16:48 Sidestand method might not be working for me. Oil isn't visible in the window anymore. It moved during the 1st ride after the change (didn't change the filter), but hasn't moved since. Currently it's just below the window when on the sidestand. I'll have to check the drain tube (stock airbox) for oil. -D. Dwarf
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #41 - 08/02/11 at 12:36:02 Many engines will use oil under excessive amounts of deceleration,...when manifold vacuum is at its highest, and my bike sees more of that than most I would guess,...because there ain't a flat spot in these hills here. So it seems I would experience SS method oil consumption if anyone would,......but I just don't see any at all.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #42 - 08/02/11 at 12:47:25 My bike doesn't hardly use any oil,I never had a bike that did,I think the ones that use oil are revving a lot of rpm,And a Big single is a motor you shouldn't rev.You can tell by the way a motor feels if it likes to rev are not.
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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: side stand oil method Reply #43 - 08/02/11 at 13:21:58 bill67 wrote on 08/02/11 at 12:47:25: My bike doesn't hardly use any oil,I never had a bike that did,I think the ones that use oil are revving a lot of rpm,And a Big single is a motor you shouldn't rev.You can tell by the way a motor feels if it likes to rev are not. How does it feel if it likes to rev?
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Re: side stand oil method
Reply #44 - 08/02/11 at 14:16:40

I use KLOTZ motor oil. I DRINK IT for breakfast, lunch and dinner BY THE BARREL. When I got my bike, I drained that black crap that Americans call engine oil and BURNED it in a fire for heat! All red communist KLUTZ oil OUT LUBES the competition. I check my oil level bidaily even when I don't ride the bike for weeks! I have been going 20,000 miles without an oil change and my KOLTZ engine oil is still BLOOD RED!!!

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