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10/29/10 at 17:33:10
 
I am a newbie savage owner.  I purchased a 1999 savage and changed the oil as specified in the manual.  I drained the oil changed the filter and added 2.5 qts of suzuki 10w40.

However, know the oil level in the "window" is all the way to top!

How can this be?

I drained the oil for 20 minutes until no drips were present.

Has anyone else encounterd this and have they drained off the excess?
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Reply #1 - 10/29/10 at 17:36:45
 
Did you change the filter too? 2 quarts and maybe a cup puts it right when you change filter too.
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Reply #2 - 10/29/10 at 17:49:40
 
There's plenty of places that won't drain unless you tip from side to side.

Next time, just 2 qts, even a qt and half is fine for a start and see where you're at.
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Reply #3 - 10/29/10 at 17:57:37
 
Thanks for the info!

I did change out the filter when I changed the oil.

Now that it is reading high should I drain off the excess or ride it out?
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Reply #4 - 10/29/10 at 18:08:29
 
I'd drain it a little, but it's ok to be at the top of the window.
you should see a level while it's on the stand.  
Ask OF how much over is ok.

Easy way to drain a little is to take out the timing port cover.
Put some tape under the hole to act as a spout or it'll run down the side.
Take the cover off leaning the bike to the opposite side.
Put it back on the stand and it should come out, but I'd start with level and see what the level drains to.
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Reply #5 - 10/29/10 at 19:16:56
 
I just drained approx 1 pt from the total oil added when I changed the filter an oil.

The level is between the marks in the window.

I appreciate the time and advice given to help me though my first oil change.

It just seems odd that the dealer and manual stated to add 2.5 qts when changing the oil and filter.

I hope I did not damage my engine with the increased oil level.  I did ride the bike about 6 miles before I drained off the excess.
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Reply #6 - 10/29/10 at 19:37:22
 
mscepu101 wrote on 10/29/10 at 19:16:56:
......It just seems odd that the dealer and manual stated to add 2.5 qts when changing the oil and filter.....



No Asian motorcycle I've ever owned needed the amount of oil the manual said to add after an oil change.

My Savage (see signature) takes two quarts on the button (with a filter change) to get the oil level to midway between the marks by the window.

IHTH!
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Reply #7 - 10/29/10 at 19:38:10
 
There was a poll about this topic
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1283793450/0#0

It is a good read
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Reply #8 - 10/30/10 at 09:09:02
 
When I have my bike on the sidestand, and the wheel to the right, I had better see oil.....p e r i o d. !
If I don't, I add till it gets to the low line.
And yes, this is well overfilled according to Suzuski's very stupid way of checking the oil,....and thats good.
And I think that is about 2.25 gts.
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Reply #9 - 10/30/10 at 09:17:23
 

Overfilling, satisfying, relief from worrying,


mmmmmm  mmmmm good .....


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Reply #10 - 10/30/10 at 10:17:18
 
Gee whiz!

Is there a tech bulletin on this topic?

Does anyone have an engineering analyis to clarify this issue?

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Reply #11 - 10/30/10 at 10:33:14
 
Mine's an '87. 2 quarts and a spritz does the trick. I fill it up until 1/2 way up sight glass when sitting level.
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Reply #12 - 10/30/10 at 11:19:30
 
When I change the oil I usually fill to the mid level of the window, on a level surface, When the bike is warmed up, the level gets to about the top of the window, on level surface. All thumpers burn oil, especally when running at superslab speeds. So, check from time to time and add if needed.  
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Reply #13 - 10/30/10 at 12:17:12
 


<Gee whiz!

Is there a tech bulletin on this topic?

Does anyone have an engineering analyis to clarify this issue?>





Well now, go to the tech section and look .....







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earl, is that you buddy?

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Reply #14 - 10/30/10 at 21:02:51
 
Digger wrote on 10/29/10 at 19:37:22:
mscepu101 wrote on 10/29/10 at 19:16:56:
......It just seems odd that the dealer and manual stated to add 2.5 qts when changing the oil and filter.....



No Asian motorcycle I've ever owned needed the amount of oil the manual said to add after an oil change.

My Savage (see signature) takes two quarts on the button (with a filter change) to get the oil level to midway between the marks by the window.

IHTH!


Digger, I agree about the manual. My bike sits level where I park it, so I just use the extension mirror from Auto Zone ($2) before I ever crank it. I just lean it till it's about balanced and wait for the Rotella to get above halfway. Takes a little longer for it to show up than the synthetics, but no problem. I would like to urge everybody to have good idle speed to pump the oil up that long way to the cam. And let it run at least a minute before you pull away..2 minutes would even be better. I noticed my wife letting her car run about a minute before putting it in gear last week. After 33 years of explaining it she is doing her best to keep our repair bills down. I know it's just metal, but your bike (or car) will thank you for it.
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