WebsterMark wrote on 08/17/10 at 06:31:01:Stinger; it's true, there are no athetist in a fox hole.
Even Mick will realize that one day.
Ugh, there's that annoying little turd of wisdom again, "There are no atheists in foxholes."
Great gobs of gooseshit, it's almost as if people say irrational things when stressed out. OF COURSE people make a last ditch cry for help, even when they know none is available. That doesn't constitute a genuine belief. Whether or not the big powerful thing EXISTS or not has no bearing on the human reflex to cry out for it. In other news, my 3 year old daughter crys "Mama!" when she is upset, even though she knows full well her mom is on the other side of the world and she will have to settle for dad.
Perhaps I should not say the statement itself is an annoying turd. What's annoying is the way it's presented by smug Christians, which is essentially this: "Those atheists, heh. Put a little
HEAT on them, and they come clean every time!" As if atheists lie about what they really think until they are about to die, or have so little integrity that they can (and do) flip flop their way of thinking just because they are under duress.
The "foxholes" statement ties into Pascal's wager, which is garbage.. a slimy calculated "faith" to save one's neck, a faith no entity of decent moral character would appreciate. We can get into that if someone wants to start a thread on it. But for THIS thread, yeah let's see Starlifter at the flag burn, unless he's just blowing smoke, so to speak.