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Oil Spill News (BP boss set to step down)
06/16/10 at 14:18:40
 
Updates always on last page.


So, any news?    Huh


I've seen that a few members are from the
TX/LA/MS/GA/FL area and the rest of us would
really like to know what's going on over there.

It will be 2 months soon and it seems like
there's no end in sight. This media blackout
thing seems to be very real because we all
know there has not been any real info, new
video or pictures for weeks.

Also BP bought the google rights to ALL oil
spill related searches and all world media
and bloggers are strictly off-limits from the
coast area which is now a no-fly zone as well.

In case you did not know, your local & national
media is now reporting to you while standing in
front of greenscreens or in random east coast
beaches complete with clean-up props and fake
cleanup crew; the prez's visits have been all staged.

You hear any rumors? What do your relatives
or coworkers say? Any evacuations underway?
Why did the US refuse all international help?


Please report, please.
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Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June and after).
Reply #1 - 06/16/10 at 14:52:25
 
I live in Wisconsin but I do know that if it has something to do with oil we bomb some country,We should bomb England but thats not how we do things I think we will most likely bomb France.
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Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June and after).
Reply #2 - 06/16/10 at 15:46:37
 
bill67 wrote on 06/16/10 at 14:52:25:
I live in Wisconsin but I do know that if it has something to do with oil we bomb some country,We should bomb England but thats not how we do things I think we will most likely bomb France.

why not bomb S Korea they are the guys who built the thing,
Hundia I believe.
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Reply #3 - 06/16/10 at 16:01:42
 
Because thats not the way we do things.
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Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June, and after).
Reply #4 - 06/16/10 at 20:42:57
 
The silence fromm BP & the Goobs is deafening. I heard on the radio that 17 countries have offered help, only to be declined b y BP{ & Bammy. The " Dont let a good crisis go to waste" mantra is in full effect & all are adhering to the policy. Calsls for the Car & Trade/ Tax, whatever, are `coming out now. This disaster has not been dealt with reasonably. the coast will be allowedm to suffer, in order to demonize oil as a fuel source, so they can say the people want to tax oil use, in order to have the $$$ to develop what they call Green Technology. As always, the sheeple will bleat Yeeees, Yeeees, tax the oil.
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Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June, and after).
Reply #5 - 06/17/10 at 09:05:12
 
I like cheap gas as much as the next guy, but I'm willing to pay more for it (i.e., higher gas taxes) if the extra money goes into programs that offset the environmental degradation that comes with extracting oil from the ground.

I call it being prudent ... and looking out for the long-term interests of future generations.

But by golly if that doesn't make me a GOLDURN SOCIALIST in some people's minds ...

I'm also amused (but not surprised) by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's insistent and immediate call for the federal government to come to the aid of his state.

Wasn't he the same guy, when delivering the official GOP response to President Obama's State of the Union address, who said the federal government should be significantly downsized and should release its stifling grip on states so the states could take care of their own affairs without the feds dragging them down?

Huh. What a difference a gigantic oil spill makes ...  Roll Eyes
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Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June, and after).
Reply #6 - 06/17/10 at 09:23:41
 
Spiff wrote on 06/17/10 at 09:05:12:
I like cheap gas as much as the next guy, but I'm willing to pay more for it (i.e., higher gas taxes) if the extra money goes into programs that offset the environmental degradation that comes with extracting oil from the ground.  sureeeeeeeeeeee, the govt will take good care of it just like your social security money.......I call it being prudent ... and looking out for the long-term interests of future generations.

But by golly if that doesn't make me a GOLDURN SOCIALIST in some people's minds ...

I'm also amused (but not surprised) by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's insistent and immediate call for the federal government to come to the aid of his state.

Wasn't he the same guy, when delivering the official GOP response to President Obama's State of the Union address, who said the federal government should be significantly downsized and should release its stifling grip on states so the states could take care of their own affairs without the feds dragging them down?
after the Exxon Valdez, a program was set up to handle spills like this, and the oil companies pay into a fund to pay for the response, problem is, THE PLAN WASN'T FOLLOWED!!, kinda stupid to have a plan and then leave all the oils boomsforgotten in a warehouse somwhwere.  after all, you call you insurance company when you have a claim after you paid the premiums for years.

Huh. What a difference a gigantic oil spill makes ...  Roll Eyes


big things are what the govt is SUPPOSED to handle, you know, like securing our borders from undocumented visitors........

I will quit calling for smaller govt when they actually do something well
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Reply #7 - 06/17/10 at 10:00:10
 
And a small federal government would have handled this gulf oil spill exactly how?

All calls for a small federal government sound really good until really big sh!t hits the fan. Then the libertarians and their Tea Party sympathizers are strangely absent... (Or maybe they are at their local unregulated bank cashing their Medicare checks....)

The solution is to have an effective federal government, not a federal government that fights wars and secures borders and little else. There ARE many, many, other legitimate functions of a large federal government that would negatively affect every citizen immediately if those functions would completely disappear overnight.

Let's reform this baby, not throw it out with the bathwater, eh?
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Reply #8 - 06/17/10 at 10:09:31
 
Short update.

1) Quick recent happenings:

- "Everyone should be prepared for worst-case scenario,
oil spill may not be capped until Christmas" expert warns - wtf?

- Media pushes Bilderberger Tony Blair as next BP chairman - WTF?!

- Thousands of dead or dying marine life corpses being secretly
removed from beaches every night and disposed of - WHAATF!


2) Sadly this video makes way to much sense (NSFW language).



3) My relatives in the Houston-Tx area say that they're ok and
that "daily life goes on here as usual but that the air is thick with
authentic concern and also folks are being careful who they share
their strong opinions with", also they say a lot of "army" mobilization
is taking place for some reason and they heard that some neigbors
had to re-route somewhere after Mobile last week while coming back
from florida because some coast areas where "off-limits".  

Will keep you posted if  I hear anything else.
Sources: Reuters & http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/13/bp-oil-spill-timetable
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Reply #9 - 06/17/10 at 10:11:33
 
Being we can't get this leak stopped,We should asked China,N. Korea,Iran, Japan,Maybe our high paid educated engineers aren't to smart.We were greedy for oil now we have it.
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Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June).
Reply #10 - 06/17/10 at 10:17:45
 
Spiff wrote on 06/17/10 at 10:00:10:
And a small federal government would have handled this gulf oil spill exactly how?

All calls for a small federal government sound really good until really big sh!t hits the fan. Then the libertarians and their Tea Party sympathizers are strangely absent... (Or maybe they are at their local unregulated bank cashing their Medicare checks....)

The solution is to have an effective federal government, not a federal government that fights wars and secures borders and little else. There ARE many, many, other legitimate functions of a large federal government that would negatively affect every citizen immediately if those functions would completely disappear overnight.

Let's reform this baby, not throw it out with the bathwater, eh?

+1... Wink...
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Reply #11 - 06/17/10 at 11:06:55
 
Here I am, a Libertarian. Even we see the right of others to swing their fist stops at the beginning of our noses. The media have tried to make Libertarians out to be unreasonable people, but I, for one, am an American & I believe our borders are to be protected & immigration controlled. The Open Border people are free to tear down their fences & post signs
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The problem with this well is manifold. ( He he,, I snuck "Manifold" into a post on an oil leak)
BP Chose to take risks that were insane in themselves, knowing the statistics on well problems & how a failed cement job rates so high on the list of reasons for a problem. They KNEW their BOP was, at best, compromised, & likely useless. Which it was. They had the well under control, with the 2 cement plugs being held in place by the heavy drilling mud. Yet, knowing their BOP was flaky at best, they decided to replace the heavy mud w/ sea water, which decreased the hydrostatic  pressure holding down on the upper cement plug, which allowed the formation pressure to drive the plugs up the wellbore.

How would smaller govt have been able to respond better? Why hasnt this Huge Monster of a Govt done a beter job? Why did we turn down aid from countries with the equipment to skim the mess off the water & seperate it out? Why did they refuse to allow La. to build berms to protect their marshlands? Why are there oil booms still sitting in warehouses? Why was it necessary to unload a boatload of them & transfer them to another boat, in order to COUNT them?
A smaller Govt wouldnt have the power to stop Louisianas Governor from protecting his state from the oil. They wouldnt give him authorization to do what needs done, pretending it might create an environmental problem. As IF some dirt could possibly be worse than the oil that was certainly about to create a HUGE environmkental problem. This isnt reasonable, this is obstructionism, making the crisis as huge as possible. The beneficiary will be the govt. More power is coming to them. Growth thru failure, weve seen it all our lives. Unlike private sector failures, where people get fired for things going bad on their watch, the Goobs just point to a lack of funding & the need for more beaurocracy & the sheeple stand in line, bleating "Yeees, Yeees, fix our problems, take our $$$ & our freedoms & solve all the problems"..
Govt inspectors turned blind eyes & watched porn & played online games & did some chit chat on Facebook, instead of watching what was going on.

If you were sitting at a T intersection & straight across the street was a playground full of children, if you put your hands over your eyes & floored the car & it raced across the road & ran over a dozen kids, could you really call that an Accident? At some point, there are enough "Red Flags" to make proceeding less than PRUDENT. What they did , knowing they had a bad BOP, was far from prudent. Pulling the mud off the plug was more like an act of sabottage than anything. Calling the result an accident is a bit of a stretch, IMO.


& for all you Big Govt types, p[lease, step back & look at how things were in the 60's & such. Look at things now. We have less freedom, more taxes, less industry & more govt than ever. Weve been watching Govt grow for decades. Im not seeing things get better. Quite the opposite. Things are getting worse & worse & the single commmon denominator is, Govt has been growing & growing & growing.
Read the Constitution, read it till you understand the concept of freedom. Learn about the Federal Reserve. Until you understand that, your opinions on the economy are based in ignorance & therfore, irrelevant.
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Reply #12 - 06/17/10 at 15:08:31
 


The Texas Republican, the House's top recipient of oil industry campaign contributions since 1990, apologized Thursday for apologizing to the chief of the British company that befouled the Gulf of Mexico with a massive oil spill.

His double mea culpa plus a retraction, executed under pressure from fuming GOP leaders, succeeded in shifting attention from the tragedy, BP's many missteps and the stoic British oil chief at the witness table, to his own party's close connection to the oil industry.

Barton started the ruckus at midmorning when he took aim at the $20 billion relief fund for victims of the spill sought by the White House and agreed to by BP.

"I apologize," Barton said to BP CEO Tony Hayward, who was sitting at a witness table for another of Congress' ritual floggings of wayward corporate heads.

"I do not want to live in a country where any time a citizen or a corporation does something that is legitimately wrong is subject to some sort of political pressure that is — again, in my words, amounts to a shakedown," Barton said. "So I apologize."

Incensed at the gift Barton had given Democrats, Republicans came close to stripping Barton of his post as chairman-in-waiting of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. GOP leaders summoned Barton to the Capitol and demanded he apologize in specific terms. The leaders threatened to launch a process to strip Barton of his seniority on the powerful panel, a particularly painful threat to any long-term lawmaker, according to two knowledgeable Republican officials who demanded anonymity so they could speak freely about private meetings.

But it was the notion of an American lawmaker apologizing to a foreign head of a corporation that had caused great hardships for millions of Gulf Coast residents that incited rare Republican-on-Republican rage. Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., became the first in his party to demand that Barton be stripped of his seniority. During a House vote later in the day, other Republicans pressed their leaders for Barton's punishment — and at least two in the leadership were still considering that option, the officials said.

As Barton returned to the committee, the leaders issued their own statement:

"Congressman Barton's statements this morning were wrong."

Vice President Joe Biden weighed in — lightheartedly at first, red-faced by the end.

"I find it incredibly insensitive, incredibly out of touch," Biden told reporters. "There's no shakedown. It's insisting on responsible conduct and a responsible response to something they caused."

Democrats, eager to tie Republicans to the oil industry during this midterm election year, piled on.

"While people in the Gulf are suffering from the actions of BP, the Republicans in the Congress are apologizing to BP," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.

By midafternoon, Barton was back on the dais with a statement that was something short of what the leaders had demanded.

"I want the record to be absolutely clear that I think BP is responsible for this accident," he said. "If anything I said this morning has been misconstrued, in opposite effect, I want to apologize for that misconstruction."

Barton then issued, and House Republican leader John Boehner's office forwarded out a somewhat different written statement.

"I apologize for using the term 'shakedown' with regard to yesterday's actions at the White House this morning, and I retract my apology to BP," it began, and finished: "I regret the impact that my statement this morning implied that BP should not pay for the consequences of their decisions and actions in this incident."

Barton has received $100,470 in campaign donations from oil and gas interests since the beginning of 2009, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The same group reported that since 1990, political action committees of the oil and gas industry and people who worked for it have given more than $1.4 million to Barton's campaigns, the most of any House member during that period.



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Mick are you taking the same medication that JOG is taking.
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Reply #14 - 06/17/10 at 15:41:24
 
What do you want me to sat, Bill? Things are fine? BP didnt make so many "Mistakes" as to make it look al;most intentional? You seem to think Im not seeing things clearly, so, please4, do enlighten me. Put those years of oilfield experience to work & explain it to us.
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