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Title: Oil Spill News (BP boss set to step down) Post by Stimpy on 06/16/10 at 14:18:40 Updates always on last page. So, any news? :-? I've seen that a few members are from the TX/LA/MS/GA/FL area and the rest of us would really like to know what's going on over there. It will be 2 months soon and it seems like there's no end in sight. This media blackout thing seems to be very real because we all know there has not been any real info, new video or pictures for weeks. Also BP bought the google rights to ALL oil spill related searches and all world media and bloggers are strictly off-limits from the coast area which is now a no-fly zone as well. In case you did not know, your local & national media is now reporting to you while standing in front of greenscreens or in random east coast beaches complete with clean-up props and fake cleanup crew; the prez's visits have been all staged. You hear any rumors? What do your relatives or coworkers say? Any evacuations underway? Why did the US refuse all international help? Please report, please. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June and after). Post by bill67 on 06/16/10 at 14:52:25 I live in Wisconsin but I do know that if it has something to do with oil we bomb some country,We should bomb England but thats not how we do things I think we will most likely bomb France. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June and after). Post by mick on 06/16/10 at 15:46:37 606B6E6E3435020 wrote:
why not bomb S Korea they are the guys who built the thing, Hundia I believe. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June, and after). Post by bill67 on 06/16/10 at 16:01:42 Because thats not the way we do things. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June, and after). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/16/10 at 20:42:57 The silence fromm BP & the Goobs is deafening. I heard on the radio that 17 countries have offered help, only to be declined b y BP{ & Bammy. The " Dont let a good crisis go to waste" mantra is in full effect & all are adhering to the policy. Calsls for the Car & Trade/ Tax, whatever, are `coming out now. This disaster has not been dealt with reasonably. the coast will be allowedm to suffer, in order to demonize oil as a fuel source, so they can say the people want to tax oil use, in order to have the $$$ to develop what they call Green Technology. As always, the sheeple will bleat Yeeees, Yeeees, tax the oil. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June, and after). Post by Spiff on 06/17/10 at 09:05:12 I like cheap gas as much as the next guy, but I'm willing to pay more for it (i.e., higher gas taxes) if the extra money goes into programs that offset the environmental degradation that comes with extracting oil from the ground. I call it being prudent ... and looking out for the long-term interests of future generations. But by golly if that doesn't make me a GOLDURN SOCIALIST in some people's minds ... I'm also amused (but not surprised) by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's insistent and immediate call for the federal government to come to the aid of his state. Wasn't he the same guy, when delivering the official GOP response to President Obama's State of the Union address, who said the federal government should be significantly downsized and should release its stifling grip on states so the states could take care of their own affairs without the feds dragging them down? Huh. What a difference a gigantic oil spill makes ... ::) |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June, and after). Post by buttgoat1 on 06/17/10 at 09:23:41 3310090606600 wrote:
big things are what the govt is SUPPOSED to handle, you know, like securing our borders from undocumented visitors........ I will quit calling for smaller govt when they actually do something well |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by Spiff on 06/17/10 at 10:00:10 And a small federal government would have handled this gulf oil spill exactly how? All calls for a small federal government sound really good until really big sh!t hits the fan. Then the libertarians and their Tea Party sympathizers are strangely absent... (Or maybe they are at their local unregulated bank cashing their Medicare checks....) The solution is to have an effective federal government, not a federal government that fights wars and secures borders and little else. There ARE many, many, other legitimate functions of a large federal government that would negatively affect every citizen immediately if those functions would completely disappear overnight. Let's reform this baby, not throw it out with the bathwater, eh? |
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Title: Warning: strong language ahead. Post by Stimpy on 06/17/10 at 10:09:31 Short update. 1) Quick recent happenings: - "Everyone should be prepared for worst-case scenario, oil spill may not be capped until Christmas" expert warns - wtf? - Media pushes Bilderberger Tony Blair as next BP chairman - WTF?! - Thousands of dead or dying marine life corpses being secretly removed from beaches every night and disposed of - WHAATF! 2) Sadly this video makes way to much sense (NSFW language). [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ZN6r5-1QE[/media] 3) My relatives in the Houston-Tx area say that they're ok and that "daily life goes on here as usual but that the air is thick with authentic concern and also folks are being careful who they share their strong opinions with", also they say a lot of "army" mobilization is taking place for some reason and they heard that some neigbors had to re-route somewhere after Mobile last week while coming back from florida because some coast areas where "off-limits". Will keep you posted if I hear anything else. Sources: Reuters & http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/13/bp-oil-spill-timetable |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by bill67 on 06/17/10 at 10:11:33 Being we can't get this leak stopped,We should asked China,N. Korea,Iran, Japan,Maybe our high paid educated engineers aren't to smart.We were greedy for oil now we have it. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by Serowbot on 06/17/10 at 10:17:45 7F5C454A4A2C0 wrote:
+1... ;)... |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/17/10 at 11:06:55 Here I am, a Libertarian. Even we see the right of others to swing their fist stops at the beginning of our noses. The media have tried to make Libertarians out to be unreasonable people, but I, for one, am an American & I believe our borders are to be protected & immigration controlled. The Open Border people are free to tear down their fences & post signs "No Guns, No Locks" " Free food & medical care here" " We love you more than ourselves" The problem with this well is manifold. ( He he,, I snuck "Manifold" into a post on an oil leak) BP Chose to take risks that were insane in themselves, knowing the statistics on well problems & how a failed cement job rates so high on the list of reasons for a problem. They KNEW their BOP was, at best, compromised, & likely useless. Which it was. They had the well under control, with the 2 cement plugs being held in place by the heavy drilling mud. Yet, knowing their BOP was flaky at best, they decided to replace the heavy mud w/ sea water, which decreased the hydrostatic pressure holding down on the upper cement plug, which allowed the formation pressure to drive the plugs up the wellbore. How would smaller govt have been able to respond better? Why hasnt this Huge Monster of a Govt done a beter job? Why did we turn down aid from countries with the equipment to skim the mess off the water & seperate it out? Why did they refuse to allow La. to build berms to protect their marshlands? Why are there oil booms still sitting in warehouses? Why was it necessary to unload a boatload of them & transfer them to another boat, in order to COUNT them? A smaller Govt wouldnt have the power to stop Louisianas Governor from protecting his state from the oil. They wouldnt give him authorization to do what needs done, pretending it might create an environmental problem. As IF some dirt could possibly be worse than the oil that was certainly about to create a HUGE environmkental problem. This isnt reasonable, this is obstructionism, making the crisis as huge as possible. The beneficiary will be the govt. More power is coming to them. Growth thru failure, weve seen it all our lives. Unlike private sector failures, where people get fired for things going bad on their watch, the Goobs just point to a lack of funding & the need for more beaurocracy & the sheeple stand in line, bleating "Yeees, Yeees, fix our problems, take our $$$ & our freedoms & solve all the problems".. Govt inspectors turned blind eyes & watched porn & played online games & did some chit chat on Facebook, instead of watching what was going on. If you were sitting at a T intersection & straight across the street was a playground full of children, if you put your hands over your eyes & floored the car & it raced across the road & ran over a dozen kids, could you really call that an Accident? At some point, there are enough "Red Flags" to make proceeding less than PRUDENT. What they did , knowing they had a bad BOP, was far from prudent. Pulling the mud off the plug was more like an act of sabottage than anything. Calling the result an accident is a bit of a stretch, IMO. & for all you Big Govt types, p[lease, step back & look at how things were in the 60's & such. Look at things now. We have less freedom, more taxes, less industry & more govt than ever. Weve been watching Govt grow for decades. Im not seeing things get better. Quite the opposite. Things are getting worse & worse & the single commmon denominator is, Govt has been growing & growing & growing. Read the Constitution, read it till you understand the concept of freedom. Learn about the Federal Reserve. Until you understand that, your opinions on the economy are based in ignorance & therfore, irrelevant. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by mick on 06/17/10 at 15:08:31 The Texas Republican, the House's top recipient of oil industry campaign contributions since 1990, apologized Thursday for apologizing to the chief of the British company that befouled the Gulf of Mexico with a massive oil spill. His double mea culpa plus a retraction, executed under pressure from fuming GOP leaders, succeeded in shifting attention from the tragedy, BP's many missteps and the stoic British oil chief at the witness table, to his own party's close connection to the oil industry. Barton started the ruckus at midmorning when he took aim at the $20 billion relief fund for victims of the spill sought by the White House and agreed to by BP. "I apologize," Barton said to BP CEO Tony Hayward, who was sitting at a witness table for another of Congress' ritual floggings of wayward corporate heads. "I do not want to live in a country where any time a citizen or a corporation does something that is legitimately wrong is subject to some sort of political pressure that is — again, in my words, amounts to a shakedown," Barton said. "So I apologize." Incensed at the gift Barton had given Democrats, Republicans came close to stripping Barton of his post as chairman-in-waiting of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. GOP leaders summoned Barton to the Capitol and demanded he apologize in specific terms. The leaders threatened to launch a process to strip Barton of his seniority on the powerful panel, a particularly painful threat to any long-term lawmaker, according to two knowledgeable Republican officials who demanded anonymity so they could speak freely about private meetings. But it was the notion of an American lawmaker apologizing to a foreign head of a corporation that had caused great hardships for millions of Gulf Coast residents that incited rare Republican-on-Republican rage. Rep. Jeff Miller, R-Fla., became the first in his party to demand that Barton be stripped of his seniority. During a House vote later in the day, other Republicans pressed their leaders for Barton's punishment — and at least two in the leadership were still considering that option, the officials said. As Barton returned to the committee, the leaders issued their own statement: "Congressman Barton's statements this morning were wrong." Vice President Joe Biden weighed in — lightheartedly at first, red-faced by the end. "I find it incredibly insensitive, incredibly out of touch," Biden told reporters. "There's no shakedown. It's insisting on responsible conduct and a responsible response to something they caused." Democrats, eager to tie Republicans to the oil industry during this midterm election year, piled on. "While people in the Gulf are suffering from the actions of BP, the Republicans in the Congress are apologizing to BP," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. By midafternoon, Barton was back on the dais with a statement that was something short of what the leaders had demanded. "I want the record to be absolutely clear that I think BP is responsible for this accident," he said. "If anything I said this morning has been misconstrued, in opposite effect, I want to apologize for that misconstruction." Barton then issued, and House Republican leader John Boehner's office forwarded out a somewhat different written statement. "I apologize for using the term 'shakedown' with regard to yesterday's actions at the White House this morning, and I retract my apology to BP," it began, and finished: "I regret the impact that my statement this morning implied that BP should not pay for the consequences of their decisions and actions in this incident." Barton has received $100,470 in campaign donations from oil and gas interests since the beginning of 2009, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The same group reported that since 1990, political action committees of the oil and gas industry and people who worked for it have given more than $1.4 million to Barton's campaigns, the most of any House member during that period. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by bill67 on 06/17/10 at 15:24:32 Mick are you taking the same medication that JOG is taking. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/17/10 at 15:41:24 What do you want me to sat, Bill? Things are fine? BP didnt make so many "Mistakes" as to make it look al;most intentional? You seem to think Im not seeing things clearly, so, please4, do enlighten me. Put those years of oilfield experience to work & explain it to us. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by verslagen1 on 06/17/10 at 16:51:01 jog you oughta get the same drugs as bill |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by bill67 on 06/17/10 at 16:59:59 JOG you can get them for vers thats where I get mine. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by verslagen1 on 06/17/10 at 17:12:05 2A2124247E7F480 wrote:
:o THOSE WERE FOR THE BIKE NOT YOU ::) GEESH YOU SWALLERING THEM 1/2" BOLTS WITH WHAT? |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by bill67 on 06/17/10 at 17:14:26 Now I know why i've been backfiring so much. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by Midnightrider on 06/17/10 at 18:46:39 797277772D2C1B0 wrote:
;D ;D ;D ;D Bill you are the undisputed king of one liners. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (3rd week of June). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/17/10 at 19:48:35 263522233C3137353E61500 wrote:
Naaah, Ive seen what they do to him. I dont want me some O that,, thank YEW Vera much. |
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Title: Good news - Bad news. Post by Stimpy on 06/25/10 at 12:45:49 June 25, 2010, Good news :) - Bad news :( According to Jane Burgermeister from The Huffington Post and theflucase.com the gulf oil spill is NOT as bad as we were all lead to believe and this is why nobody is really rushing to do anything about it. She writes: "The ‘disaster’ in the Gulf of Mexico is beyond a false flag; it’s an illusion. What I’m about to reveal will more than likely go by the wayside, and the charade will continue. The reason for writing this is not for attention, games, or folly, but to expose the biggest scam in the 21st century, and to relieve some aching hearts. The Government, corporations, and the people behind them have pulled out all the stops to insure the truth doesn’t come out. They are the reason why the beaches have private security contractors, insuring no one is able to gain access to the oil on shore. They are the reason the Gulf of Mexico is a no fly zone. They are the reason why the gulf states are being locked down by the military. Without this measure of control the illusion would fail. In this post, what I can do is provide leading evidence, or give clues to the truth; The truth is that the large oil spills washing up on the shores are not from BP Deep Horizon. They are indeed from surrounding wells, that were already leaking artificially or by design. These wells can be verified through a simple online search. You’ll notice that much of the oil is actually in the form of tar. Usually tar balls; sizes of these have reached 2000+ pounds. All experts, and scientific communities only know what they are told, and that is the well tapped into a large high pressure hydrocarbon pocket. To even a trained eye, what they are being told appears to be a massive oil gusher, when in fact it’s a controlled event. What everyone is actually viewing is a man made (well bore), a large “Black Smoker”. ...this was the good news. Now the bad news: So what’s the benefit of this scam? MONEY, money and population control. The Corexit 9500, and other dispersants are not needed. They are purposely being sprayed since day 1 by Evergreen Air/CIA to cull the population along the Gulf Coast. But why? Because of the large amount of "useless eaters, pond scum, or undesirables" living along the gulf coast. These would be the Americans living off of the government. This coastal area from Texas to Florida has the highest, or most dense population of targets of elimination by the US Govt. and corporations. These are the popu- lations living on welfare (in this area dominated by African Americans), and the older population living on Social Security (mainly Florida). These people are going to start dropping like flies over the next few years, and greatly reduce the burden to government coffers. The Asphalt volcano was a win-win situation for this false flag: as it presented the best illusion to all outside parties. Not only do the conspirators need to fool the general public, but also the oil industry, and scientific community. The public is easy to fool, but the latter two groups take a little more effort; this is the main reason why the Gulf is being isolated by security contractors and military. The side effects of this scam are negligible; in the eyes of the perpetrators, they’ve done nature a favor. They’ve opened up an asphalt volcano from the side, and will shut it down in the next few months by equalizing the pressure". ** I don't know if any of this is true or not but it sadly makes a lot of sense, so please do your own research and share your info/POV's. Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphalt_volcano http://www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.theflucase.com http://www.thegic.org/profiles/blogs/asphalt-volcano-amp-bp http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/784/490980gulfspill.jpg |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/25/10 at 16:04:34 As Ive said before, expect the carbon tax ( cap & trade) they wanted to do at the Copenhagen summit, but climategate messed that up, support for the great Global warming scam died, so they couldnt justify it. Now, somehow, theyll decide we need a tax on carbon based fuels that create that Horrible Toxin, CO2( yea, its the same CO2 plants use to make O2, but lets not let facts get in the way of a political agenda). Also, they'll get their cvhance to try out martial law. Gotta protect the peoples! They'll seperate families, hauling children away from parents & put them where theyre "safe".. Yea, Im stickin my neck out there, but thats what I see coming. Never let a good crisis go to waste. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by WebsterMark on 06/26/10 at 05:44:19 my boss just spent a week in Destin, FL on vacation. one tarball floated up and they closed a beach and banned scubas. it's being blown way out of proportion. any oil spill is bad and this is a big one, but its not the end of the world and its not a reason to go off half cocked. they are making more out of this than there is. Katrina was an average hurricane that happened to hit in a bad spot and its been turned into the storm of the century. same with this maybe, and I stress maybe. sit back and let the FACTS come in and then take action, not ready, shoot, aim. Government can't solve this and they can't remove all risk in the future. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by verslagen1 on 06/26/10 at 09:40:40 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts2851 |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by bill67 on 06/26/10 at 11:45:09 746770716E6365676C33020 wrote:
My worrys are over now,Just like they were over when we found out Iraq didn't have WMD. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by Stimpy on 06/27/10 at 02:06:19 Well, it seems that the Floridans are not going to give in that easily in BPs nonsense and that they'll defend their beaches with tooth, walker and bling-chain! "Hundreds of people line Florida shore in protest at BP spill as tropical storm threatens to disperse oil further" * Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289906/BP-oil-spill-Hundreds-people-line-Florida-shore-protest-spill-tropical-storm-threatens-disperse-oil-further.html#ixzz0s2hQfqIy http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/26/article-1289906-0A37CBDD000005DC-148_306x465_popup.jpg ...and at least the media isn't being blocked yet. http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/11214060/2/istockphoto_11214060-angry-old-lady-with-walker.jpg |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by Stimpy on 06/27/10 at 02:18:22 A related/unrelated protest short video from CBC News, Canada. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJPY-ZOtcS0[/media] June 25, 1010. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/10 at 08:35:27 Thanks for posting that. I watched some of it, but my guts started knotting up & I had to quit. Iver heard security for these criminals with their God complexes is running in the billions. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by buttgoat1 on 06/27/10 at 08:57:48 we are in good hand! Gubmint will save us from another devastating oil spill......................... http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/06/epa_classifies_milk_as_oil_for.html guess dairy farmers don't buy the right politicians |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/10 at 09:16:06 & for HOW many centuries has milk been being sloshed about, & no one is hurt because of it, yet the IDIOTS can just decide to suddenly CALL it toxic & everyone is just supposed to bow down & act as if it really IS? The farmers need to get their District Atty to stand up against this crap. Ir Everyone says no, then what? Only the HUGE dairy farms will do it & be able to do it, so the little guys will do what? Go out of business? Pressure to consolidate all things farming related has been going on for decades, this is just another tactic to make Mega Corporations the only place to get any food from. Unless of course, somene has a SANE`reason for this new idea? Like CO2 is now a toxic substance, so we need to be taxed for exhaling it. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by buttgoat1 on 06/27/10 at 13:51:17 LOL JOG, like all of a sudden sanity has anything to do with bureaucracy. I have personally seen federal employees force a farmer to make changes just because THEY thought it was a good idea. In this case rules had changed (more lenient) but the stricter rules were to be enforced until the farmer was found to be in violation of the rules, once found in violation, they could appeal and magically the new more lenient rules could be applied. It was really an abuse of power by the field level people, but I am sure that would NEVER happen anywhere else, right? |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/10 at 14:24:35 The norm is abuse now, IMO. Agencies just announcing "guidelines" with the force of law, like EPA. How did we get to such a tyrannical situation? |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by Starlifter on 06/27/10 at 21:12:08 ...I'm sure glad I live a thousand miles north of "no big deal." |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/27/10 at 21:20:15 We're only about 300 miles North of it. Weve got some who are sitting right on top of it. I sure hope the winds keep the oil away from the places it hasnt already messed up. That dispersant theyre using is banned in several countries & the EPA has told them to cut the usage down by 50 to 75%, but BP is all knowing have so far refused to curt it down out at the well. IDK about inside the "line", if theyve slowed down or stopped. Ive heard there are other dispersants available but,, doesnt look like they care. I wonder who is all powerfiul & owns a great deal od the dispersant stock. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Good news, bad news). Post by kimchris1 on 06/27/10 at 22:31:11 I along with the rest am deeply saddened and get depressed over the oil spill. I was born and raised in Panama City Beach Florida. I learned to swim in the Gulf Of Mexico. I at one time lived right across the street from the beach. To know what it feels like to not only swim in the Gulf, but to build sand castles and hear as well as feel the snow white sand as it surrounds your toes when you walk thru it, is a feeling like none other. The beaches are truly if not The World's most Beautiful, are right up there with the ones that are considered to be. With all my heart I can only hope that these waters as well as the marine life is restored back to the way they were before their ever was a drop of oil spilled. Yet I have to face reality and know that is something that never may be. It will take time and possibly years to know not only how the oil has effected the enviroment but the dispersant as well. My heart goes out to all the men and women who have been effected by this disaster. To the many that are working to clean up the mess I wish I could hug each and everyone of you. I don't have a magic wand I can wave nor a degree in engineering. I don't have the solution that will stop this from continuing to flow up from the bottom of the Gulf. What I do have are my memories of times spent at the beach, eating the wonderful seafood and building those sand castles. I only hope that someday I may again experience those memories or that my Grandchildren have an experience in life that leaves them with the fond, loving memories the Gulf left with me. I hope with all my heart this spill is contained soon. I refuse to let the bad that is being experienced now be my last memory of those wonderful times. Yet I won't put blinders on nor turn my back on what is happening their either. Sorry to have made a book out of this post. Kim |
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Title: Re: Update: More related/unrelated news. Post by Stimpy on 06/28/10 at 06:28:20 Hey, you know those nasty riots at the G20 Toronto? Guess what?! :D The main rioters and provocateurs are wearing identical Toronto government issued combat boots!!! (...they're undercover cops!!!) LOL ;D Boots, leg-guards and heavy black belts appear to be all part of the police uniform. http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3576/78955867.jpg Cop? smashing copcar. http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8781/32239100.jpg Cop? smashing window at moby dik´s. http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2886/78380206.jpg Ooops! Canadian “Bureaucratic Economizing” Exposes The Fraud! Toronto G20 Riot/mayhem Gallery here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/g8-g20/interactive/g20-protests/article1620462/ |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (G20 Riots Fraud). Post by Stimpy on 06/28/10 at 08:07:51 |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (G20 Riots Fraud). Post by justin_o_guy2 on 06/28/10 at 16:24:37 Im so glad to see others post what is happening. Ive been seeing it, grow & grow. The pressure on me, the tin foil hat crap, the Conspiracy theorist & YOU must be WRONG, because its ONLY you crap is dwindling. Thanks all. & to those who have yet to see whats REALLY happening in this country, please, hurry up & WAKE up, we all need to stop being Pubs & Dems & start being freedom loving Americans. We can work out our differences later, BUT NOT if WE dont have the freedom & power to direct the political direction of the country. If we continue to allow an Elite to dictate to us, even tho the voice of the people say NO, they shove YES down our throats, then are YOU winning? Am I? NO, we are both being beaten down & unless we lay that Left / Right thing down, we will all go down together. |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (G20 Riots Fraud). Post by Stimpy on 06/29/10 at 01:56:57 The opinion from people like ourselves is irrelevant because the facts speak for themselves. But it's funny how all of a sudden all those "crazy" conspiracy theorists, economists, activists, political analysts, controversial bloggers and filmmakers are right and were right all along. Told ya! ::) |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Iran). Post by Stimpy on 07/05/10 at 15:28:26 Update: Iran & North Korea. I'm unhappy to inform you that I have 1st-hand, official information (not from the net but from a living person I was having a beer with earlier) that the US military (along with some 'support' ally troops) are pretty much ready to illegally mobilize into Iran any time now, and that North Korea is "keeping them very busy as well these days" but this person did not elaborate more on this particular comment. About Iran, it seems that different forces stationed abroad are just 'awaiting instructions' and I personally have been seeing a lot of american cargo/supply planes (more than usual) landing in/and overflying the area. Clinton has also just formalized US presence in Poland, (missing her OWN daughters' pre-wedding party in the process), these bases are an absolute strategic troop and supply point in this new illegal invasion; this is also why the 'old' polish government went the way of the dodo down in a fireball in a Russian forest, or so they claim . More updates as soon as I hear or see anything, later. |
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Title: Time to play 'connect the dots' Post by Stimpy on 07/05/10 at 16:36:33 ** Time to play 'connect the dots' (the clues are everywhere) Iran hits out at Britain with claims airports are not letting its passenger planes refuel http://s3files.core77.com/blog/images/dot-to-dot_tattoo_01.jpg 'Iran has claimed airports in Britain, Germany, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates are refusing to let its passenger planes refuel. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1292182/Iran-claims-airports-Britain-Germany-UAE-letting-passenger-planes-refuel.html#ixzz0sr0nSyup http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/05/article-1292182-01585F6A000004B0-646_468x348.jpg |
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Title: Re: Update: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland & N.Korea Post by bill67 on 07/05/10 at 16:45:34 I think its time to bomb Iran now the news on TV has been kind of boring lately. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by WebsterMark on 07/06/10 at 11:13:26 Help me out here Stimpy: the US is planning to invade Iran because someone you were drinking with told you that and you saw some planes fly overhead?..... |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by Stimpy on 07/06/10 at 11:25:36 Help me out here Stimpy: the US is planning to invade Iran because someone you were drinking with told you that and you saw some planes fly overhead?..... Ok, you are right, even though I can't say too much I should really be a bit more specific. ;) 1) Someone from the US armed forces that is stationed here in Germany shared information with me that he shouldn't have, he does not have very high level clearance but he knows enough to know something is up and that they are currently stocking up and awaiting orders. 2) I have been recently seeing unusually high military air activity in the region where I live, both fighter jet training and incoming supply/cargo planes, there are several large co-op german/us air bases around here. Locals tell me that the exact same thing happened before and during the gulf war. 3) June 20th 2010 Report: US warships stationed off Iranian coast. Naval carrier USS Harry S Truman has been positioned in the north Indian Ocean, not far from the Strait of Hormuz, which leads into the Persian Gulf. The carrier joins the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, which was already located in the area. 12 US and Israeli warships were seen moving through the Suez Canal from the Mediterranean Sea to the Red Sea. 4) US/Israel bases in Qatar, Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, the EU and even ex-neutral Poland are all on stand-by. 5) But why Iran? Look at a map. Study it. Iran is the last one left. The goal here is to beat Russia and/or China to it. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by BurnPgh on 07/06/10 at 11:31:24 soldiers gossip like everyone else. Your source probably heard it from someone who heard it from someone etc. Beginning another war would be suicidal. We don't have the money, and any clout Obama might have worldwide would evaporate instantly. That being said...I wouldnt be surprised if it did come to pass that we strike Iran. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by Stimpy on 07/06/10 at 12:29:11 Yes, I pray you're right, logic and the economy both tells us that going into Iran is an absolutely terrible idea, but the trick here will be to market it not as an "attack" against Iran but as the necessity to defend the world against it, same as with N.Korea. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jqEjchRrLM[/media] Good Ol' Shoe! * BTW, look what I found, it seems that something very similar to BPs current gulf disaster already happened 31 years ago and the area has not yet fully recovered. 1979's Ixtoc oil well blowout in Gulf of Mexico has startling parallels to current disaster Full article and 4min documentary video here: http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/07/1979s_ixtoc_oil_well_blowout_i.html |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by WebsterMark on 07/06/10 at 12:30:24 Israel's PM is in DC today. Perhaps they are sharing intelligence information detailing Iran's nuclear work. Perhaps its further along and Israel is moving their option of pre-emptive strike up the to-do list. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by Jerry Eichenberger on 07/06/10 at 12:36:12 If Iran is anywhere close to a deliverable, workable nuclear weapon, they have to be taken out. If the Pres. has the guts to do it, or back the Israelis to do it, I may have to write another post about giving credit where it's due. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by WebsterMark on 07/06/10 at 12:48:16 I do not believe The Boy King would be able to take that step if it's needed. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by bill67 on 07/06/10 at 13:34:56 Best thing would be to take out Israel then our problems with the rest of the world would be over. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by Stimpy on 07/06/10 at 13:45:26 Touchy subject but I'm afraid you're right. Bill, have you watched the film "Occupation 101"? It's very informative for those of you who are unfamiliar with history behind the Israel/Palestine conflict . * Any of you can watch it online right now if you wish: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589# |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by WebsterMark on 07/06/10 at 14:47:10 Afraid who's right? Bill on taking our Israel? Yea, lets take out a Democracy and let a murdering dictator go free..... |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by Stimpy on 07/06/10 at 15:18:04 As I said: Touchy (and extremely complex) subject, and I'M NOT TAKING SIDES, but let's do be clear on the following: 1) Understand and accept the fact that there is no such thing as democracy. 2) When a certain country starts policing (and forcing its will upon) other regions, this first country becomes the dictatorship (that it claims to be fighting against). |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by WebsterMark on 07/06/10 at 18:59:24 huh? and huh? |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/06/10 at 19:00:37 424D414B404D464A4D5A4F4D5A280 wrote:
really? Why? Because of their clear aggression over the decades? Who have they invaded? & what Ahmadinejad said, crap, He didnt say what the news said he did. It requires a bit of thought to wrap the mind around what he did say & I did it, once, a long time ago, but he was misquoted. I can no longer all the nuabnces of what he said & how it was meant, but our good media made hiom out to be a crazy man. OHH Yes! Iran & NUKES! Im so scareed@! Just like Saddam & his nukes, & then the wmd's & all the other lies.. keep drinking the kool aid people. Let them lead ya from war to war..havent seen thru it YET? REally? Thats beyond sad, thats pitiful. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by verslagen1 on 07/06/10 at 19:21:27 2C3335322F2819291921333F74460 wrote:
not that i consider it a nuclear act, but I believe it's an act of war against us by invading our embassy in '79. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by Stimpy on 07/06/10 at 20:23:27 What do you mean by huh? and huh? You mentioned the words 'democracy' and 'murdering dictator' So I'm just pointing out for starters that democracy as such does not exist, it's an illusion (com'on, I figured that one out when I was 12!). And about the dictatorship thing, ask yourself who's really the oppressing country here, iran? Really? Why? Cause cnn is making them look mean, really? you figure it out. Think. Wake up. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/07/10 at 03:36:37 445740415E5355575C03320 wrote:
not that i consider it a nuclear act, but I believe it's an act of war against us by invading our embassy in '79.[/quote] You clearly have no knowledge of the history WE had with them that created their need to demonstrate to us that we need to leave THEM alone. Our CIA had gone in, destabilized an elected head of state, had him tossed out & them we helped install a brutal dictator. When they were finally able to unseat that creep, they did what they did as a warning to us to stay out. BUUUUT, OUR media didnt bother with that little detail.. & you guys STILL think youre learning relevant things watching the news.. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by WebsterMark on 07/07/10 at 04:17:23 some of you guys on here are just really messed up. Later. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by bill67 on 07/07/10 at 04:21:37 Since 1776 Iran has been after the USA.they just don't like us for no reason at all. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Stimpy on 07/16/10 at 00:35:16 At last! BP stops oil leaking into Gulf of Mexico for first time in three months By Sam Greenhill and David Gardner Last updated at 7:22 AM on 16th July 2010 BP said that it had successfully plugged the Gulf of Mexico oil leak - for now. In a surprise statement, the British oil giant said that oil had stopped gushing into the ocean for the first time since an explosion destroyed the undersea well on April 20. After a series of delays and setbacks, BP has closed off the valves in a cap placed over the damaged oil pipe on Monday. But the breakthrough does not mean the crisis is over. Analysts said the shut down would continue for six hours for engineers to carry out 'integrity tests' to check on the pressure inside the pipe. If the pressure rises and the pipe holds firm, BP was hoping it could keep the five valves on the stacking cap closed. If the oil pressure began to fall, that would suggest that oil was leaking lower down the well bore into underground rocks. More... Full article found webwide and here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1294928/BP-stops-oil-leaking-Gulf-Mexico-time-3-months.html#ixzz0tpQ5L7v8 http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-1294928-0A751B08000005DC-594_634x478.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/12/article-1294040-0A68B659000005DC-529_306x423.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-1294928-0A7513E9000005DC-875_634x508.jpg "Tests are now being carried out on pressure inside the well and analysts are hoping to keep valves on a replacement cap closed until relief wells can be installed next month" "...relief wells???!" Do these crazies want to still seriously pump the well commercially as is nothing ever happened huh? wow, sick. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Stimpy on 07/16/10 at 00:57:07 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbs_aDOh7u0[/media] "Cap Is Only Temporary Measure, Plan is to go back to releasing the oil" :-? huh? |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by mick on 07/16/10 at 01:07:09 Stimpy,As old enemy's we are thinking alike ,Those bloody greedy English bastards,should be shot ,then hanged,then set on fire,and there ashes buried at least 6 feet underground. Those greedy bastards are trying desperatly to cap the oil well just so they can open it in the near future,do you agree ? |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Iran, Poland, N.Korea and you) Post by mick on 07/16/10 at 01:09:38 33383D3D6766510 wrote:
Bill there must be a reason,I have no idea what it is ,but there has to be one,you don't dislike for no reason. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Phelonius on 07/17/10 at 09:08:35 I think "BP" stands for butt plug. Something they need in the large economy size. They are crapping up the whole world. Phelonius |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Midnightrider on 07/18/10 at 20:32:45 Its a shame our president doesnt ban BP from offshore drilling, or do something to make an example out of them. That whole mess was created by greed, carelessness and recklessness. Jimmy Carter was the only president in my lifetime that had the balls to stand up to the oil companies. When the oil companies started that fake shortage horsesh!t he froze prices. You cant ever accuse Carter of being bought off. The older I get the smarter Jimmy Carter gets. Never be able to say that about W. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Stimpy on 07/19/10 at 07:42:46 Look how this electromagnetic assembly produces MORE energy that it needs to operate. A lot more! And how does it work? A: magnets, kinetic energy and a self-generated magnetic field that exponentialy self-accelerates the system, it's basic 100 year old 'secret' Tesla technology. http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8360/terawattdevice.jpg http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8153/terawattgraphs.gif |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Stimpy on 07/19/10 at 12:31:31 by Patrick J. Kelly pdf - 14 Chapters, 1731 pages, illustraded. http://tinyurl.com/35cyfhd |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/19/10 at 18:51:06 Heard a report that its leaking again. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by buttgoat1 on 07/20/10 at 09:36:53 50747973747A75696F7479786F1D0 wrote:
sure the president did, he extorted $20 billion from them to be handed out fairly by his close personal friends (acorn maybe) yep, came straight out of the vault and not from the everyday people who's 401k's were invested in BP, nope, get the greedy bastards! Screw the laws that are in place. We don't need to follow them afterall. I'm gonna quit paying taxes so I can be a czar too! |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Serowbot on 07/20/10 at 10:02:57 Extorted?... Your pundit sources are showing... They cause tens of billions in damage, and he gets a guarantee of 20 billion for the reparations... That's not extortion,... it's a start... |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by mick on 07/20/10 at 11:38:22 you are right Midnight Pres Jimmy Carter was the best president this country has had since I have lived here (1967). The problem he had was he was too honest.A great man. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by bill67 on 07/20/10 at 11:55:17 He was to honest that just don't work for head of governments. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by buttgoat1 on 07/20/10 at 11:56:19 LAWS enacted after the Exxon Valdez placed a $75M cap (agreeably too low) on liability and also placed a tax ($.08 / barrel, also low) to fund a trust to cover damages beyond the cap. Additional fines and damages can be had if there is criminal negligence. The point to this is that there is a legal system in place, laws are meant to work for all, not just against the (momentarily) unpopular. obama getting this money without a guilty verdict (except in the court of public opinion) is extortion, plain and simple. apparently laws that protect others rights don't matter to you, until one day when you are on the receiving end of "justice". |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/20/10 at 13:51:14 As much as Im Pisstawph at BP, the 20 billio0n was extortion IMO & it was put in the hands of the same A55HOLE who was in charge of handin out the $$ after 9/11. I dont trust that setup, at all. I dont see why BP couldnt have put the money in a trust fund & allowed people to apply for repareations. I think the people who get a dime in compensation for thier losses should be made public & the $$$ amount made public, so the $$$ cant just disappear into the pockets of bureaucrats. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by bill67 on 07/20/10 at 14:55:52 Bill Clinton was a good president,Remember him. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Serowbot on 07/20/10 at 17:41:56 5E495A4F494E495A45280 wrote:
So,.. if you run over my mailbox, and I come to you and ask for $20 to get a new one..... That's extortion?.... Not!.... If I threaten to commit an illegal act against you if you you don't give me $20... That's extortion... If I simply ask you to put up what you clearly owe for damages you admittedly caused,... Not!... BP did what it did and admitted it, and promised to cover it... Obama simply said... Pony it up... |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by buttgoat1 on 07/20/10 at 18:45:40 actually its more like you being in an accident, and before the cars are even towed away, the cop on the scene tells you to write a check, you dont have enough so you have to call your friends and family. it doesnt matter that you have insurance, he just stands in front of a mob and demands it. and the mob yells for you to be shot on the spot. yeah, thats more like it "justice" without due process |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Serowbot on 07/20/10 at 19:22:50 Oh come on Butt,... BP ain't your little sister... It's one of the richest, most powerful companies in the world... It didn't have to call mommy and big brother for money... Obama didn't threaten to beat up Tony Hayward... He just said, "Show me the money!"... |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by buttgoat1 on 07/20/10 at 19:27:42 I'm not saying BP shouldnt pay, this is a nation of laws but not to the thug in chief.... |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by bill67 on 07/20/10 at 19:53:46 What should have Obama said? |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Serowbot on 07/20/10 at 19:54:04 If you are injured, and the party at fault refuses to admit guilt or pay restitution,... then the laws protect you... If you are injured, and the party at fault admits guilt and promises to pay full restitution,... the law is not required... That is the case with BP,... so far... Laws are to correct injustices... "We are a nation of laws" is a sophism... All civilized nations have laws, and so, they are all "Nations of laws"... |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by mick on 07/20/10 at 23:16:36 3E2127203D3A0B3B0B33212D66540 wrote:
You and buttgoat aught to be in the same "sky is falling club" what a pair of candy assed whimps,I dought very much if you guys would trust your own mothers to handle your weekly pocket money. Do you guys actually ride motorcycles ? or do just join up with sites that have real men in them,and real motorcycles ?. Forgive me lady's I know you have more moxy than the above two. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by mick on 07/20/10 at 23:18:27 Oooooh I'm shaking in my boots that you might sic SS Moderator on me,if you have the balls try it. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/21/10 at 05:12:48 What? You think Ive ever asked a mod to come in here? Or ever would? You think more of yoiurself than I see as reasonable. you dont matter to me, Mick. You can say whay ya want & act all tough & the like, I dont care. Talk crap about me, I dont care. Why dont I care? Cuz you dont matter to me. I tried to get along with you, but you made that impossible. so, say/do what ya will. Pretend that because I dont trust the goobs & you do, youre a brave man. I dont care, dude. trust them all you want. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by buttgoat1 on 07/21/10 at 09:39:42 686C666E716D60696C68607C050 wrote:
You and buttgoat aught to be in the same "sky is falling club" what a pair of candy assed whimps,I dought very much if you guys would trust your own mothers to handle your weekly pocket money. Do you guys actually ride motorcycles ? or do just join up with sites that have real men in them,and real motorcycles ?. Forgive me lady's I know you have more moxy than the above two.[/quote] thanks for your thoughts mick! Yes, I would trust my mother to handle my money but my parents raised me to take care of myself and not to depend on others. as to the rest of your comments, I do ride and really couldnt care less what you think of me. Moxy, I am sure the ladies here do have plenty. |
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Title: ...pants on fire. Post by Stimpy on 07/22/10 at 04:52:34 BP = BhotoshoP ? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/22/article-1296764-0A887F30000005DC-315_968x681.jpg http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/07/500x_bpairtraffictower_01.jpg http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/07/500x_bpdash1.jpg http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/07/500x_bpoceanchange.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/22/article-1296764-0A88709C000005DC-450_312x339.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/22/article-1296764-0A88750A000005DC-409_312x341.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/22/article-1296764-0A842215000005DC-872_472x363.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/22/article-1296764-0A160BD3000005DC-223_198x323.jpg D'oh! ...my special effects department sucks. http://catsoldier.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/pants-on-fire.jpg ...wag the dog baby, wag it! Full story w/photo analysis here: http://gizmodo.com/5592836/bp-photoshops-another-official-image-again-terribly http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1296764/Did-BP-Photo-shop-ANOTHER-oil-spill-image.html |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by buttgoat1 on 07/22/10 at 09:40:27 it is pretty sad that so much is just a photo op for PR. people need to just do it instead of trying to make themselves look busy |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/10 at 13:15:47 Ive seen reports of BP hauling groupls of workers to be busily cleaning up a beach when a VIP was gonna show up. Soon as the VIP left, theyd load up the workers & houl them away. |
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Title: Re: Oil Spill News (Leak finally plugged??!) Post by Stimpy on 07/25/10 at 07:02:52 :o BP boss 'will resign within 24 hours' as oil firm expected to announce £6.5bn profits despite spill. Although BP is still under fire from President Barack Obama and U.S. Senators, the firm appears to have turned a corner after stemming the leak. In spite of the leak, which has so far cost the firm £2 - and facing a further £13billion bill - BP is expected to announce profits of nearly £6.5 so far this year. |
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