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Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter
Reply #15 - 05/27/10 at 08:37:07

Fair enough... I apologize.
I didn't count postal workers or the military. I don't see them as typical government workers. They have real jobs, not like the bureaucrats. That doesn't change the fact that the amount of federal government workers has grown under Obama. Some of these jobs were temporary census workers, but he still used them to pad the "number of jobs saved or created BS".
How do you count a job saved anyway??

The United States has a total of about 3 million in the military. This includes both active AND reserve forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_armed_forces

The USPS employs about 664,000 people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_worker

Still a far cry from 17 million, but it doesn't matter...
My point is the only thing the government grows is itself. The only thing it produces is more government.
Do you really think we're getting the best bang for our buck with the amount of taxes we pay?? I don't!

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter Reply #16 - 05/27/10 at 08:42:02 Who knows maybe Obama will pull our country out of debt
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earlytimz Senior Member Offline Savage model 417 (4 speed, 17mm) Posts: 382 BG, KY Gender:	Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter Reply #17 - 05/27/10 at 08:46:44 Yeah, & maybe we can all work for the government!! LoL
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buttgoat1 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1042	Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter Reply #18 - 05/27/10 at 08:55:26 I think the difference is that Carter actually had real jobs, had good intentions, and was proud to be an American.
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earlytimz Senior Member Offline Savage model 417 (4 speed, 17mm) Posts: 382 BG, KY Gender:	Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter Reply #19 - 05/27/10 at 09:01:23 buttgoat1 wrote on 05/27/10 at 08:55:26: I think the difference is that Carter actually had real jobs, had good intentions, and was proud to be an American. Exactly! Barry will go down in history as the worst president ever, making Carter look better in the process.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter Reply #20 - 05/27/10 at 09:43:45 Why are you leaving out the #1 worse president GWB.
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mick Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Hell-bound Posts: 7323 Dayton Oregon Gender:	Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter Reply #21 - 05/27/10 at 12:21:00 bill67 wrote on 05/27/10 at 09:43:45: Why are you leaving out the #1 worse president GWB. don't forget R. Reagan the second worst president.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter Reply #22 - 05/27/10 at 12:29:16 #3 worst Tricky thingy Nixon
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LostArtist Ex Member	Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter Reply #23 - 05/27/10 at 12:56:55 seems to me, either you like him or you don't and nothing will change your mind if you don't
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Re: Obama and Jimmy Carter
Reply #24 - 05/27/10 at 14:24:22

Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 05/27/10 at 05:47:20:

Lifter, My Friend -

I believe you once described yourself as a "democratic solialist". Is my memory correct?

If so, you either don't understand, or more probably, don't believe in the profit motive.

To say that all Capitalists (those who believe that the formation of a capital based economy is best) are all thieves is about as accurate as saying that all gov't employees are worthless, lazy scoffs. Neither is true.

But this isn't the theme of what I asked in starting this thread. My question was whether Carter and Obama will suffer the same fate from a historical viewpoint - smart, well educated men with good intentions, but who lacked the leadership skills needed in a chief executive.

Kinda odd that the Pres. is the chief executive of the Federal gov't., the same as is a chief executive officer (CEO) of a business, isn't it?

The same leadership skills are demanded of both jobs.

I think Starlifter is one of the smartest guys on this forum, his numbers and stories are all backupable (great new word heh).
You know in England,when the Tory party gets in they always raise the taxes on beer and cigarettes,when the Labor party gets in they raise the taxes on luxury cars (you have one) boats,and aeroplanes,shoot you would get dinged again,so you are safe at the moment if you want to move to England. I'm sure you would find the Old Bailey much more interesting,but you would have to get a wig and powder.
I used to love hanging out at the OB a fun way to spend a few hours.

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