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SouthernMD

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Belt Chirp
01/22/06 at 16:19:19

Hi All,

Here’s one for ya. Yesterday while riding I noticed a chirping sound at low speed. I traced it out to be the belt riding agents the inside wall of the rear drive pulley. Can I chock up the bike so the back wheel is off the ground, start the engine, put the bike in gear, and adjust the rear wheel so the belt rides the center of the pulley? The index marks for the rear axel are at the same mark on both sides. Does this mean there’s some other problem? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

SOMD

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sluggo Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline big singles lead, twins follow the pack Posts: 4744 moses lake washington Gender:	Re: Belt Chirp Reply #1 - 01/22/06 at 16:40:32 actually, it is a common sound. on mine it happens when damp out. like my wife i just tune it out. do a site seach for sqeaky belt, that should bring up the past threads set the results to the highest number to get better results.
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SouthernMD Ex Member	Re: Belt Chirp Reply #2 - 01/22/06 at 16:49:29 Thanks Sluggo. When it happens can I hit it with a little belt spray to quiet it?
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sluggo Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline big singles lead, twins follow the pack Posts: 4744 moses lake washington Gender:	Re: Belt Chirp Reply #3 - 01/22/06 at 17:33:11 SouthernMD wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01: Thanks Sluggo. When it happens can I hit it with a little belt spray to quiet it? dunno, never tried it.. will it work on the wife
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SouthernMD Ex Member	Re: Belt Chirp Reply #4 - 01/22/06 at 17:38:28 I just tried it on mine. It didn't work. I'll try the belt tomorrow
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Belt Chirp Reply #5 - 01/22/06 at 18:35:32 nada - should not put any thing on the belts - maybe a little too tight as well
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SouthernMD Ex Member	Re: Belt Chirp Reply #6 - 01/23/06 at 01:25:45 Thanks Reelthing, gotchya nothing on the belt.
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Re: Belt Chirp
Reply #7 - 01/23/06 at 12:21:27

If you'll reach down there and push pull on the pulley, you'll see that there is play at the pulley because it drives the wheel with rubber bushings. It isn't directly attached to the wheel, therefore aligning the wheel doesn't necessarily mean anything. ...and actually if you raise the rear wheel up and spin the tire, you'll see that the belt will wander side to side inside the pulley anyway.

What causes that chirping sound with a dry belt is too much tension. Back off both adjusters equally until you can twist the belt 90 degrees on the lower side. Tighten her her up, and the chirp will be gone.

Oh, and please don't spin the tire with the engine, unless you're gonna post photos 8)

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SouthernMD

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Reply #8 - 01/23/06 at 14:24:40

Thanks Greg I’ve read a lot of your replies to posts and for my money if you say it’s so I’ll bet on it. From your other comment I’m guessing spinning the back tire with it blocked up off the ground is not a good idea. I have to ask why ????

There was a second issue I found on my ride last Saturday. I could not get the bike to go into 5th gear until I got up to about 70 mph. Does this mean my clutch needs adjusting?

Thanks for the advice

SOMD

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Re: Belt Chirp
Reply #9 - 01/24/06 at 06:46:51

SouthernMD wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

Thanks Greg I’ve read a lot of your replies to posts and for my money if you say it’s so I’ll bet on it.

Thanks, but I really just pass on my own mistakes.

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From your other comment I’m guessing spinning the back tire with it blocked up off the ground is not a good idea. I have to ask why ????

Once again, read above

....a bike tire is not perfectly balanced, nor with a belt or chain is it exactly free of backlash. If you block it up and run the bike, the rear tire will jerk and bounce very hard. The reason being that it won't have a load or any resistance to the engine. The engine will spin really free That is a recipe for the bike coming off the blocks while you are sitting there looking at the tire spin.

I've done that, except for the "coming off the blocks" part. Just not a secure situation. Block it up and spin it by hand. That works just as well.

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There was a second issue I found on my ride last Saturday. I could not get the bike to go into 5th gear until I got up to about 70 mph. Does this mean my clutch needs adjusting?

Thanks for the advice

SOMD

I'm not sure. A clutch issue is likely to give you trouble in all gears not just 5th.

Once again from my experience....Has anyone ever made a habit of shifting the bike without the clutch?

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Reply #10 - 01/24/06 at 06:53:06

Oh and by the way...I once had a belief in using the Savage belt tension gauge (if you have it). It takes some tinkering and experimentation, but it works. Just a bit tedious since you can't spin the tire with it in place.....check, remove, adjust, spin tire, reinstall, check, adjust, spin tire, reinstall....on and on.

Therefore I admit that I adopted the 90 degree rule at the suggestion of member Kropachek. It is much faster and simpler. He gets the credit.

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Re: Belt Chirp
Reply #11 - 01/24/06 at 07:51:27

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01:

Oh and by the way...I once had a belief in using the Savage belt tension gauge (if you have it). It takes some tinkering and experimentation, but it works. Just a bit tedious since you can't spin the tire with it in place.....check, remove, adjust, spin tire, reinstall, check, adjust, spin tire, reinstall....on and on.

Therefore I admit that I adopted the 90 degree rule at the suggestion of member Kropachek. It is much faster and simpler. He gets the credit.

Thank you. 8)

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Belt Chirp Reply #12 - 01/24/06 at 08:11:35 Kropatchek wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:01: Thank you. 8) Kropatchek And one of these days, I might be able to spell your name right, too?
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bburson853 Ex Member	Re: Belt Chirp Reply #13 - 01/24/06 at 08:40:29 Rub edges of belt with bar of Ivory soap -- noise will go away and if mis-alignment not bad will stay away for a very long time.
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Re: Belt Chirp
Reply #14 - 01/24/06 at 12:51:55

Greg, I often shift with out the clutch. It's a habit of many years. Was taught that by Dad and how to listen for the right sound before you shift. Find myself doing it without thinking. I also gear it down instead of braking, but I need to change that habit, it doesn't give the guy following me a clue that I'm slowing down. There was a picture of a couple in a wreck in our local paper recently. The wife plowed into husband when he stopped in front of her. Had to tow both bikes off. Would hate for that to happen to me.

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