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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Valve Adjust? 06/01/05 at 15:33:39 Hey folks, I don't think the valves have ever been adjsuted on my '97. The service amnual says to measure the clearance and adjsut with a screw driver if necessary. What should I measure, and what do I adjust n(witha screw driver?????)? thanks, ks PS didn't see any of this in the technical section...
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Reply #1 - 06/01/05 at 19:20:03

Hey vroom1176;

I just did mine. You need to make sure that the piston is TDC so all the valves(exhaust & intake) relax. You should be able to slide the feller gage(0.08-0.13mm) in to each of them snuggly. If they need to be adjusted, loosen the hex nut on it with the flat head screw driver on top of it then adjust with the screw diriver until it snuggle fit over the feeler gage. I don't know what kind of service manual you have, but mine have very good pictures to show you how. If you need it badly, I can scan mine and send it to you.

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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #2 - 06/02/05 at 09:29:37 thanks! I've got the Suzuki manual, which also has incorrect jet sizes! Sheeesh!
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #3 - 06/02/05 at 13:16:51 What jet size does it list ? - I have most service manuals - I do not see any errors on the jets - I do see an error on the 87 wiring diagram where the neutral light is labeled as a oil level indicator light
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #4 - 06/02/05 at 14:22:51 I think it called for a 150 main and 47.5 pilot. I can look if you are interested. Ray, at Ray's motorcycle repair (an excellent business), yanked out his microfiche slides and told me I had the stock jets despite what my Suzuki service manual said ('97 savage, btw). ks
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #5 - 06/02/05 at 15:03:15 Was just curious - the 47.5 is the correct pilot jet for older US and perhaps current Ca bikes/Eu bikes - wonder if you have a CA/Eu service manual? (do not if there was a ca/Eu only - but maybe)
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #6 - 06/02/05 at 15:53:09 I think there are parts listed as "California only"...
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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #7 - 06/02/05 at 16:33:48 CA - Canada in this case I believe
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Reply #8 - 06/03/05 at 05:51:49

vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

I think it called for a 150 main and 47.5 pilot. I can look if you are interested. Ray, at Ray's motorcycle repair (an excellent business), yanked out his microfiche slides and told me I had the stock jets despite what my Suzuki service manual said ('97 savage, btw).

ks

Is Ray a psychic? How does he know from looking at a microfiche what is inside your carb? Is that some kind of new x-ray?

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Reply #9 - 06/03/05 at 05:55:54

vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

Hey folks,

I don't think the valves have ever been adjsuted on my '97. The service amnual says to measure the clearance and adjsut with a screw driver if necessary. What should I measure, and what do I adjust n(witha screw driver?????)?

thanks,

ks

PS didn't see any of this in the technical section...

You don't know the what or the how when it comes to ADJUSTing the valves?

My advice would be to close your manual and ride your bike to the shop and let them do it. Maybe they will let you watch so that you can learn.

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Reply #10 - 06/03/05 at 06:13:38

LOL! Greg is probably right and his advice is definitely the safest. However, if you're an adventurous amateur like me and want to play anyway (or better yet, just for informational purposes), here's a decent explanation at Dan's Motorcycle Valve Adjustment. The wrench and screwdriver will probably work but with the limited space, I thought I'd prefer the specialized tools like the Motion Pro Tappet Tool Set. Oh, and the feeler gauges and timing plug wrench make the job easier.

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Reply #11 - 06/03/05 at 08:07:26

" Is Ray a psychic? How does he know from looking at a microfiche what is inside your carb? Is that some kind of new x-ray?"

Uh, I had my needles in my hand, and Ray looked at them.

" You don't know the what or the how when it comes to ADJUSTing the valves?

My advice would be to close your manual and ride your bike to the shop and let them do it. Maybe they will let you watch so that you can learn."

I have every intention of adjusting my own valves. I (presently) own three bikes, and don't have the money to pay for Ray (or a stealership) to work on my bike every time something goes bad or needs a little love.

"Dan's Motorcycle Valve Adjustment"

Thanks for the link!

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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #12 - 06/03/05 at 08:39:07 Set them on the loose side of the specs. By the tappet tools. I have an OLD Honda set that works great for most Japanese and European bikes. Exhaust valves are a piece of cake, but to do the intake side, you'll need to pull the tank. And, buy an angled feeler gauge, much easier to deal with than a straight gauge. -WD
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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #13 - 06/03/05 at 09:20:14 I modified the link in my post above to use BikeBandit as they were slightly cheaper and they also carry the angled feeler gauges and the timing plug wrench (if you want one - I do).
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Valve Adjust? Reply #14 - 06/03/05 at 09:45:36 Here's my version of the timing plug tool, which I made after (years of using a bad practice) I finally punched a hole in a friend's timing plug cover with a screwdriver and hammer. This one was made with scraps laying around the garage, but I like the one Rob has better
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