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jbird Ex Member	??? 09/17/04 at 18:34:39 what does the LS stand for on my savage??
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Gitarzan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline ! Posts: 827 Columbus, Oh, Earth, Solar Sys Gender:	Re: ??? Reply #1 - 09/17/04 at 18:40:26 Lickity Split? Low Speed? Laughing Stock? Limp Stiffy? Lacks Smoothness? Loose Speedometer? Naw... It means, [glow=red,2,300]Lousy Seat [/glow] ???
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Susan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline Been AWOL but I'm back... Posts: 682 Eastern PA Gender:	Re: ??? Reply #2 - 09/17/04 at 19:15:35 And on a more positive note (Gitarzan!): Loveable Steed? Light Speed? you Laugh you Surrender? Like a Stud? Leading Star? Loose Stallion? Naw... It means, [glow=red,2,300]Loud Single [/glow]
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Reply #3 - 09/17/04 at 21:08:49

Let's look at what is available in a mid-weight (500-800cc) cruiser style bike:

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Honda VLX, 583cc, 452 lbs
Honda Shadow Spirit 750, 745cc, 496 lbs
Kawasaki 500 LTD, 498cc, 439 lbs
Kawasaki 750, 749cc, 483 lbs
Kawasaki 800, 805cc, 496 lbs
Royal Enfiled Bullet* 499cc, 370 lbs
Suzuki Boulevard S50, 805cc, 443 lbs
Yamaha V-Star Custom, 649cc, 474 lbs
*not a v-twin, not a cruiser

Suzuki LS650 Savage/Boulevard S40: 652cc, 352 lbs.
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The Enfield, a smaller single, is 18 pounds heavier. All of the V-Twins are 87 to 144 pounds heavier than the Savage.

Methinks LS stands for Lightweight Single.

I know light weight was my primary criteria.

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Reply #4 - 09/17/04 at 21:33:01

In October 1986 Cycle World roadtested the LS650 and measured 41 lb-ft of torque at 3000 rpm. Seems a bit high to me, but where else can you get a 352# motorcycle with that kind of stump pulling energy?

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p.s. In August 1996 Cycle World tested again and claimed 31.4 lb-ft at 3300 rpm. Either way, it still appears the strongest per pound.

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jbird Ex Member	Re: ??? Reply #5 - 09/18/04 at 03:06:37 well we all do have a sense of humor this morning dont we thanks all
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: ??? Reply #6 - 09/18/04 at 04:20:56 How about....? Lean and Sexy Low and Short or maybe even.... Light Speed I give up. You guys already got all the good ones
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Reply #7 - 09/18/04 at 08:45:52

jbird wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09:

well we all do have a sense of humor this morning dont we thanks all

We are a silly bunch, aren't we? But back to jbird's original question, does anyone know if it stands for anything?

jbird, I've always assumed it was one of those silly naming mechanisms that didn't mean anything but I am happy to be proven wrong...

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Reply #8 - 09/19/04 at 03:06:55

Susan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09:

We are a silly bunch, aren't we? But back to jbird's original question, does anyone know if it stands for anything?

jbird, I've always assumed it was one of those silly naming mechanisms that didn't mean anything but I am happy to be proven wrong...

In the automobile world, and on my Malibu LS, it stands for Luxury Sedan (which is a bit of a stretch). Maybe that's it.

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Reply #9 - 09/19/04 at 21:24:21

Now my curiousity is aroused. I haven't found the answer to this yet but I did find a model chart quite some time back when I was researching an older bike of mine (a 1982 GS550LZ) The "L" for that time frame indicated it was a cruiser class and the "Z" meant it was a standard edition. I don't know what the classifications for the "LS" are but I am leaning towards "cruiser-standard" or "cruiser-single (for the engine spec)". Just guessing at this point. My series and body style are listed as the "LS650PK2" so there's a couple of other specs to find also.... I'm sure one of us will find the real answer soon.

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Jon Ex Member	Re: ??? Reply #10 - 09/19/04 at 21:45:43 > The "L" for that time frame indicated it > was a cruiser class My serious guess is that 'S' stands for Sport. It does with the S40.
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Mr 650 Serious Thumper Offline The LS650- Classic style & 4-valve engine Posts: 1389 Mempho Gender:	Re: ??? Reply #11 - 09/20/04 at 01:14:12 Everyone tells me 'it looks Like a Sporster'. ' Elvis sang about a whole Lota Shakin' goin on. If you went to the track, you would likely be the... Long Shot!
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: ??? Reply #12 - 09/20/04 at 02:03:05 Do the Japanese models have a different letter designation? I'm sure the letter looks different. I wonder if it has a Japanese meaning.
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Susan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline Been AWOL but I'm back... Posts: 682 Eastern PA Gender:	Re: ??? Reply #13 - 09/20/04 at 06:35:11 Daemon wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09: Now my curiousity is aroused... My series and body style are listed as the "LS650PK2" so there's a couple of other specs to find also.... I'm sure one of us will find the real answer soon. I am pretty sure the last number indicates the year. Mine ends with a 4 and I have an '04.
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Mr 650 Serious Thumper Offline The LS650- Classic style & 4-valve engine Posts: 1389 Mempho Gender:	Re: ??? Reply #14 - 09/21/04 at 00:44:44 Looking at Ron Ayers and yes the last character corresponds to year, before '01 it was letters; http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/getyear.cfm?groupid=6910&man=su
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