Mavigogun wrote on 12/02/19 at 13:25:41:At first, you seem to have your head screwed on straight- but then you make these unhinged claims that a quick check of the record may easily debunk.
srinath wrote on 12/02/19 at 10:04:03:Its a diet bound to give most people diabetes unless you under eat to the point of being malnourished. This is one big reason why India does not have any Olympic gold medals - or for 1.2 billion people, they have very very few.
There is no national correlation of the sort you assert between diabetes and vegetarianism. Veterinarians enjoy a lower rate of diabetes than their omnivore neighbors around the world. Like your notion that eating cows has less environmental impact than eating plants, this is another weird counter-factual thing you believe.
As for veterinarian athletes and your Olympic-metric, there are plenty of vegan and veterinarians, including medalists. A cursory review of Olympic medal totals places India in the company of other omnivores. You could perform a brief review of vegan body builders for illustrations of what is possible. You seem to have some animus toward vegetarianism that prevents reasoned discernment. Or maybe you're just trolling.
Most of my family is vegetarian, and nearly all of them are fat and diabetic. You're confusing vegan for healthy. Remember sugar, flour and frying up 1 and dunking it in the other etc is still vegan. The vegans of US become vegan with some higher purpose in mind. In India they don't, they are just that way. I think if we turn the whole world vegan, soon enough we'll go the India way. The Indian diet was all fine when we were working in the fields doing physical labor for 8-10 hrs a day, likely in the burning sun. Now they all sit at a desk and the diet cant be reversed in any meaningful way.
Now most diets from say 50 yrs or older, were designed to keep you fat because most of the time people were malnourished, being too skinny was the biggest problem. The Indian diet does that extremely well, and I hate to say it, I have over 15 family members who I am dragging back to being less diabetic and less fat and healthier. Its like pulling teeth. There are 30yr olds who are fat and diabetic. And I'm not even talking my parents generation, I'm talking my cousins.
And no, India's Olympic tally is poor and worse than poor when you consider we have had over a billion people since about 1985. At one point we checked and Luxemborg (if I remember) had more medals than India did. Seriously you saying that we're on par with other omnivores just tells me everything I need to know about how well you research things. We need to be 65-70% of China's tally to put it in simple terms. And we're about to lose to Luxembourg. Brilliant.
Forget it, you are pushing an ideology, much like my climate change stance, I don't care to debate that with you or anyone else. I have 50yrs of research on myself. Much like I accept climate change, I accept that indian style vegan diet will leave you diabetic by 30. I'm only interested in the solution. And no more veganism isn't the solution for the ones I am working with, except, the yare vegans and will be for life. Rest assured, no cows are farting in my cure of obesity or diabetes (except in my case, where its already occurred)
Cool.
Srinath.