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Re:  (GASP) Guns & MJ
Reply #15 - 04/15/24 at 15:06:21
 
[quote   A lot of this relies on criminals deciding to follow the law   ...

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WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS

REGISTER COMMUNISTS NOT FIREARMS


the  gun debate drags on and on and on Roll Eyes
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Reply #16 - 04/15/24 at 16:12:22
 

the  gun debate drags on and on and on


 The only thing I am debating is that MJ records can result in the Government "taking" "ALL" the guns.

 It's very unlikely that any agency using MJ records could possibly get every, or ALL, guns.  At most they get the guns that law-abiding MJ users give up.

 If a human wants to legally own a firearm, why would they use MJ to begin with?
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Reply #17 - 04/15/24 at 16:26:59
 
Eegore wrote on 04/15/24 at 16:12:22:
"... I am debating is that MJ records can result in the Government "taking" "ALL" the guns ..."


All Guns ?  
Probably misinterpreted that.
'the guns that are held by the people that ALSO are registered MJ users"

 (BY various methods)

Eegore wrote on 04/15/24 at 16:12:22:
"... If a human wants to legally own a firearm, why would they use MJ to begin with?


Because the STATE, said they could !!!!!

(Then CONVENIENTLY forgot the part about what the FEDERAL Law said)


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Reply #18 - 04/15/24 at 16:39:11
 
thumperclone wrote on 04/15/24 at 15:06:21:
"...the  gun debate drags on and on and on ..."


And the BANNING of GUNS,
Goes ON and ON and ON and ON and ON.
In All sort's of ways,
And All sorts of BLAME, for a totally DFI completely disturbed person.

Until, FREEDOM, is completely REMOVED, to satisfy the UL, DFI, Progressive, FDS, UL, Socialists.

 Who do NOT, have a clue,
they will be the FIRST to go !









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Reply #19 - 04/15/24 at 16:53:29
 
If Hitler was born in the late 60's,
did not get syphilis,
 and their was no USA to spearhead.

Their would be NO discussions about Freedom,
ANYWHERE,
in this WORLD.




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Reply #20 - 04/16/24 at 01:36:12
 
All Guns ?  
Probably misinterpreted that.
'the guns that are held by the people that ALSO are registered MJ users"

(BY various methods)



 Yes.  ALL MJ user guns.  I specifically referenced only the millions of MJ users in Denver alone.  No amount of voluntary FFL transfers will get rid of ALL those guns.  



Because the STATE, said they could !!!!!

(Then CONVENIENTLY forgot the part about what the FEDERAL Law said)



 Ok so since they forgot Federal laws exist then they illegally own firearms.  When a conceal carry human takes a firearm across State lines without knowing current reciprocation, who's fault is that?

 The government having MJ records will result in very few firearm confiscations, and it's all voluntary.  This whole MJ registrations will be used to TAKE ALL their guns is drastically oversimplified.  That strategy is poor, and inefficient, there's much better ways to get guns.
 
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Reply #21 - 04/17/24 at 07:38:16
 
"...  government having MJ records will result in very few firearm confiscations, and it's all voluntary ..."

Sounds a lot like:

"... let's gut the 2 amendment
  it will make it much better ..."


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Reply #22 - 04/17/24 at 09:22:58
 
Sometimes I think you love guns more than life itself

They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life
There's more to living than guns

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Reply #23 - 04/17/24 at 09:57:30
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/17/24 at 09:22:58:
I think you love guns more than life itself. They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life. There's more to living than guns  


     WOW, Eliminate a entire Sport !!!!!!!!!

A ENTIRE,
Recreation & Competition,  !!!!!!!!!!


You had to many beers ?
or are you smoking something ?

When do you propose
   (after you get rid of guns)
Which of the several Hundreds of Recreations will be next ?

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Reply #24 - 04/17/24 at 10:17:43
 

"... let's gut the 2 amendment
 it will make it much better ...



 A lot of unrelated things that were never said sound "a lot like" I've noticed.  Since that wasn't actually said I guess you could make up anything and say it sounds like something else.

 Millions of MJ users are in Denver, why would ALL of them knowingly lend guns to friends and family using an FFL if they know the guns will be taken away?

 They won't know?  Nobody will do what you did and post it to let people know?  The loaning of firearms is an inefficient way to "take ALL" of the guns from MJ users.
 
 When a conceal carry human takes a firearm across State lines without knowing current reciprocation, who's fault is that?
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Reply #25 - 04/17/24 at 12:52:28
 
Eegore wrote on 04/17/24 at 10:17:43:
"...  things that were never said sound "a lot like" I've noticed. ..."


What's this sound like?

"... There are more than 5,000 DEATHS each year from Motorcycles,
Their is almost 9 Million MOTORCYCLES in the US.
Their NEEDS to be a much tighter, CONTROL on who, where, how, Motorcycles are used. Etc, Etc, Etc,  ..."


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"... a conceal carry human takes a firearm across State lines without knowing current reciprocation, who's fault is that?..."


Of course, it's his/her fault not knowing the  rules in other States.

The difference is,
Strict Carry Rules are WIDELY, and LOUDLY, Advertised by the majority of dutiful, 'media'.

Where 'no gun if MJ, is kept WELL HIDDEN !!!
     UNTIL !




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Reply #26 - 04/17/24 at 19:34:14
 

What's this sound like?

"... There are more than 5,000 DEATHS each year from Motorcycles,
Their is almost 9 Million MOTORCYCLES in the US.
Their NEEDS to be a much tighter, CONTROL on who, where, how, Motorcycles are used. Etc, Etc, Etc,  ..."



 It sounds like motorcycle legislation proposals.


 The difference is,
Strict Carry Rules are WIDELY, and LOUDLY, Advertised by the majority of dutiful, 'media'.

Where 'no gun if MJ, is kept WELL HIDDEN !!!
    UNTIL !



 Still the responsibility of the gun owner.  No part of gun ownership should be blaming anyone for not making information WIDELY and LOUDLY known to the owner.  That's nothing more than deflection.

 In order to purchase MJ in CO, you sign documentation when you hand over your ID that outlines, in bold, that MJ is considered illegal by the Federal Government.  

 Even at that, very few MJ using humans will have their guns confiscated when the government TAKES all the records from pot shops.  People aren't so stupid they will just FFL  ALL the guns out of their lives, they will just loan them without following the law, or not loan them at all.  This is probably one of the least efficient means of TAKING ALL guns from the populace.  

 The only way for this to sound like a real risk is to avoid observing all other logical responses to an action like this.  You know, like sharing it on forums and educating each other.
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Reply #27 - 04/18/24 at 08:35:14
 
Eegore wrote on 04/17/24 at 19:34:14:
"...   The only way for this to sound like a real risk is to avoid observing all other logical responses to an action like this. ..."


A Yep ! LOLOLOPLOL

Tomorrow, their will not be several thousand Storm-troupers breaking doen doors.

Tomorrow, THEIR WILL BE, Guns Confiscated because of all sorts of reasons.

The day after, just one more reason, MJ.

Tomorrow, 10-20 will be Confiscated,
Next day, more,
next day even more !

Soon,
(and how soon depends on WHAT the Ultra-Liberal Fairy Dust Sprinkling,
GIMME, GIMME, Socialists do)

It will be several Thousand a day.
(And accelerating)

With more intentionally turning in Guns, simply because they have been brainwashed.

They will say things like:
"... They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life ..."  about Guns.

Eegore wrote on 04/17/24 at 19:34:14:
"...You know, like sharing it on forums and educating each other.


Really, it is wrong to inform someone, what can happen ?

So if someone is driving a 'Barn Queen' with 12 year old rubber that sat the dirt, it is wrong to tell then to get new tires?

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Reply #28 - 04/18/24 at 12:51:14
 
"With more intentionally turning in Guns, simply because they have been brainwashed."

 This right here means humans are voluntarily giving their guns away.  That is not the government TAKING ALL their guns.  If every US Citizen human gives away their guns, too bad for them.  It won't happen, but as long as we ignore general logic, we can say tons of US Citizens will just blindly give away ALL their guns.


Really, it is wrong to inform someone, what can happen ?

 No.  Nobody said that except you.

 If logic were to prevail, we would not ignore the fact that humans won't just have their guns surprisingly taken away because the media isn't WIDELY and LOUDLY telling them it can happen.  Other humans will say something too.  MJ users will simply stop loaning their guns out, or stop going to FFL's to do it.

  The real problem is that humans want to use MJ and own guns when it's well known, that it is still Federally illegal.  They choose to commit a crime.
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Reply #29 - 04/18/24 at 14:47:25
 
Eegore wrote on 04/18/24 at 12:51:14:
"With more intentionally turning in Guns, simply because they have been brainwashed."
 This right here means humans are voluntarily giving their guns away.  


Who would they giving the guns to ?
Who has Brain-Washed them ?
Who says:
"...They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life ..." ?

It seams that one could say:
'They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life'
About, Golf Clubs, Tennis/Pickle-Ball rackets, Hockey Sticks, Base/soft ball bats, Or Beer !     and on and on and on.






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