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Title: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/06/24 at 12:32:04 Again !!!!! … those who use marijuana cannot legally own firearms, despite state laws legalizing recreational use… AGAIN !!!!! …”People who smoke weed or take marijuana edibles are "still federally defined as an 'unlawful user' of a controlled substance," and therefore are "prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing firearms or ammunition… AGAIN !!!!! …"Until marijuana is legalized federally, (Which will NEVER happen) firearms owners and possessors should be mindful that it remains federally illegal… And AGAIN, A, Anti Freedom POTUS like Mush For Brain Pudding Head, Will confiscate ALL the records from ALL pot shops, Then take ALL the guns, from people who’s names they have. (Well unless it is Hunter, then Daddy will protect his baby, and send in the Secret Service to STEAL the evidence) |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/06/24 at 16:18:59 I doubt it. The logistical nightmare of physically and forcefully extracting guns from the US populace would be so resource intensive and exhausting that the benefit is practically nothing. The practicality of raiding homes is typically ignored when claiming the Government will come TAKE your guns. Except for those ego-driven analysis types that say that they would never give up their guns without a fight, which somehow means others won't do that exact thing. Or even simpler, just hide the guns, or hand them to a friend that doesn't use MJ. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by WebsterMark on 04/07/24 at 03:49:41 It’s likely they will target ammunition through excessive taxes and regulations. The plan to force the transition to EV from gas and diesel to combat the hoax of climate change is through emission requirements so if they bankrupt ammunition manufacturers like they did tobacco, leftist will achieve their goal that. We can’t even use our military to stop illegal aliens from flooding into the country so do you honestly think we’re going to send her military to Bubba’s house in the backwoods of Alabama or Arkansas to dig up his cache of 20 AR, 15s shotguns, etc.? Hardly. Although, since leftist, don’t consider conservatives people, it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t float that idea around. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/07/24 at 11:19:42 5F7F7D75687F1A0 wrote:
LOLOL, can’t do that in MN now. (Thanks to the UL, DFI, Socialist Gov) Someone stops by, asks me to use a gun for hunting this coming weekend. Which my Grandfather had, which was given to my Dad, which was given to me. It NOW, needs to be given to a FFL Licensed person/store, With both of us present, it goes into the books of that store, the person who wants to use it for a day, has to now fill out the 4473, then it needs to ‘background’ checked, (Wait up to 3 days for answer like Clinton made the FFL’s do), then he/she can use it. After they are done the process has to be done again in reverse. Cost 25-45, each time, Wait up to 3 days, each time, Drive to the store, time./gas ? And if one of the two people, had a crazy DFI neighbor, who filed a False “Red Law”, report, it will fall to one of the two people to clear their name. Yep, Punishment of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, to simply to appease a bunch of FDS. And in the SAME Bill that passed: • .,..Boost funding … raise salaries of judicial branch workers and legal aid programs… (Perfect way to boost Productivity. Give more money to have less knowledge of the job and to do Less things !) • …Expand youth intervention and restorative programs … (Great, spend tax payer money to build a place, so they can have a clean and Wonderful place to go to, to SELL drugs !) • …Rework the pardons process so decisions of the three-person panel …won’t have to be unanimous… (Wonderful, you don’t have to LIE and FOOL all of the board, just some) • …Allow prison inmates to shave time off their incarceration by participating in rehabilitative, substance abuse… (Really, so one can’t have/do, substance abuse in Prison, yet go to a class that says you can’t do substance abuse, then you will get time off for doing substance abuse ? Kinna like Floyd did. Is not PRISON, suppose to be a PUNISHMENT ? Who was that that often said, “Yea, Ya Don’t Like it, Don’t come back !" • ...Limit the use of no-knock search warrants by police… (Perfect, “Hey we are gonna raid the house at 123 Any street at 3.45 PM, THIS Thursday cause we KNOW you are making Crack their”) • ..,. Fund police recruitment… (Just like was done with Noir, who got 4 years in a Country Club prison for shooting and KILLING a UN Armed woman, in her PJ’s) • …The law will also create the first in the nation Office of Missing and Murdered African American Women and Girls. …” (So if your skin color is red, brown, yellow, white, It is just tough So just keep thinking that the Fed’s will NOT, take/demand, the list of people that are buying MG. And just keep thinking that nothing will ever done about it !!!!! |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/07/24 at 11:29:48 Yeah I'm sure when the Feds start going house to house, apartment complex by apartment complex breaking in doors holding people at gunpoint, hundreds of thousands of them nationwide, none of those people will hide their guns or hand them off to someone else. So just keep thinking that the Fed’s will NOT, take/demand, the list of people that are buying MG. And just keep thinking that nothing will ever done about it !!!!! I don't think they will go "TAKE" the guns. It would be a logistical nightmare and a disaster. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/09/24 at 08:28:41 6C4C4E465B4C290 wrote:
Many MORE ways to, 'TAKE" a gun, (Which has ALREADY been done, And more ways will continue !!!!!) then to 'storm-trouper/knockdown' doors. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/10/24 at 14:38:48 Then they didn't TAKE them in most cases. Most cases. People typically, voluntarily give them up. If a human uses MJ and chooses to do it in a way that makes it illegal to own a gun, they can choose to give up the gun, give up the MJ, or do both and hope the Government never goes house to house knocking in doors. The real question is if you want to legally own firearms, why would you use MJ? |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/12/24 at 13:53:28 18383A322F385D0 wrote:
(Just a few ways, it IS HAPPENING now which MJ is just one of them) Red Laws, allowing civil gun seizure orders. Connecticut, since 1999. Police departments have carried out more than 1,500 of the seizure orders, California’s gun violence restraining order law went into effect in 2016. That year, police and family members of gun owners successfully filed for 86 orders statewide. The number rose to 104 in 2017. San Diego, more aggressive about seizing guns with these orders. It has launched an initiative to ensure that civil gun seizures orders are issued as frequently as possible. Anybody, that is ANYBODY, can file a seizure warrant with a Judge, (red law), which you’re not allowed to participate in, or make your views known. If the judge decides the firearms should be confiscated. If the court approves the seizure. (When was the last time a court did not enforce a Judges order) Officers are dispatched to collect the weapons, How many years ago was it that if someone said, ‘You are a Witch’, you are deemed to be a Witch ? |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/12/24 at 14:20:41 The real question is if you want to legally own firearms, why would you use MJ? If they "Then take ALL the guns, from people who’s names they have. " just for MJ, in only CO, that's millions of people to take ALL the guns from. I don't think it will happen. It would be a massive use of force over decades to go "take ALL" the guns, just from MJ users in Denver CO alone. The search process for just one apartment complex would take months. How many MJ users will just hide, move or prepare to defend while that one single raid is going on? Red flags laws don't even come close to this number in any capacity. The POTUS can go ahead and take ALL the MJ records - there's no way they will go take ALL those guns. The problem, as usual, is the horrendous logistics of taking ALL guns from even a small section of the populace. The only counter to this fact is the classic frog in boiling water defense, and its not even a good one. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by zevenenergie on 04/13/24 at 05:00:41 I also think that it is impossible, especially with the deteriorating social situation that is going on. I understand that MJ is less harmful than alcohol, but it is known that many people who use it develop psychological complaints, especially if their foundation is already shaky. But for many people it is also an antidepressant or a remedy for pain or other complaints. Or a nice break from their brain every now and then.And a means to get cash. The whole gun problem is a social problem. You now also see this developing in my country. The poverty that spreads through bad policy and the enormous need for housing, and on top of that the disastrous asylum policy, has led to a high level of violence with knives and explosives in recent years. The news is full of it every day. And that was very different 15 years ago. we were pretty much the safest country in the world. The bad thing is that it is children and young adults who go off the rails. They see drug dealing as a supplement to their salary. The solution is not to take them away. We have a weapons ban, but people walk with machetes under their coats. They make their explosives from imported fireworks. And somehow hand grenades are easily available. As I see every day, there are photos in the newspaper of blown-up front doors and windows. and I haven't even mentioned the threats yet. many entrepreneurs find hand grenades at their door. There is a lively drug war going on in our small country, while the government has systematically cut back on police spending over the past 16 years. The explosives, drugs and weapons are not the problem. It is the social climate that has arisen as a result of years of bad policy. Young people are afraid of becoming homeless and use all means available. There is no point in fighting the symptoms, it is not a cough. You have to tackle the real problems. It is no coincidence that they have allowed it to escalate so much, they will soon be brandishing a social control system. All they do now is change laws.More and more freedom is being sacrificed for safety. I don't think I need to explain why. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/13/24 at 13:46:45 The solution is not to take them away. We have a weapons ban, but people walk with machetes under their coats. They make their explosives from imported fireworks. And somehow hand grenades are easily available. This has been my observation. Literally everywhere I've been where the general populace doesn't have guns, they blow sh!t up, or stab each other. MnSpring brings up a good point with the availability of MJ ID process, but the follow up of taking ALL their guns, and how it's pretty much impossible to do without decades of bloodshed, for pretty much no reason, is typically ignored by people that want to convince us (Us meaning all known humans) that the government is going after our guns by using MJ records. This Red Law thing is a perfect example, millions of MJ users versus a few thousand Red Law warrants. When one Red Law is served at least 2 police go get the guns, usually more. So if 3.7 million MJ users are in Denver alone, how many cops will you need, and how many years will that take? Issue 3 warrants a day, that's 1,233,333 days, or 3,379 years given there are no days off. Just for Denver. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/15/24 at 10:16:57 7F5F5D55485F3A0 wrote:
Nop. Physically taking Guns, has become more regular. And it will become even more ! Using the MJ records, (Background Check),will prevent a person from obtaining another gun, AND, Now, that person, is known to have a unlawful item. The 'taking' will be more. Then the 'law', (just like the Communist Gov in MN passed) A person wanting to use another persons gun, HAS, to go to a FFL dealer, SURRENDER, that gun to the FFL. The FFL puts into the books, then immediately takes it out to the 2nd person. who fills out the 4473, and triggers a Background check !!!!!!!!! Golly Gee Wally, why did MN just pass, "... Cannabis is now legal for adults 21 and older to use and possess in Minnesota..." Wait till CO does that. No need to knock on doors. One will just take the gun to a FFL !!!!! (What is the % of that slop ?) |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/15/24 at 11:07:38 Physically taking Guns, has become more regular. And it will become even more ! Millions of MJ users are in Denver alone. They can start there and see how physically taking guns works in downtown on Colfax. I bet after the first complex is raided the place would turn into a warzone. It would take decades to go through one municipality. A person wanting to use another persons gun, HAS, to go to a FFL dealer, SURRENDER, that gun to the FFL. The FFL puts into the books, then immediately takes it out to the 2nd person. who fills out the 4473, and triggers a Background check !!!!!!!!! Again, if you want to be a legal gun owner, why are you using MJ? That's not taking ALL guns, it's people CHOOSING MJ over gun ownership. Wait till CO does that. No need to knock on doors. One will just take the gun to a FFL !!!!! CO did, 10 years ago. If a human wants to be a legal gun owner all they have to do is choose to not use MJ from a recreational/medical dealer. The government can TAKE all the MJ records they want. They aren't going to go march through downtown Denver, or any city confiscating guns. Some humans will however choose MJ over gun ownership and surrender their weapons. Most will use MJ and just keep their guns. Because the government isn't coming with the SWAT team to millions of homes. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/15/24 at 11:48:40 6D4D4F475A4D280 wrote:
Really, I did not know that 10 years ago the State of CO, ushered in a law, that said: ' If you want to lend a gun to someone, you MUST GIVE IT to a FFL dealer first, than that dealer Must put it into the books, then it will come out of the books to the person receiving the gun, which a background check will be made ' If MJ records are on file, If the lender or receiver's name is their, What would happen ? |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/15/24 at 14:15:57 Really, I did not know that 10 years ago the State of CO, ushered in a law, that said: ' If you want to lend a gun to someone, you MUST GIVE IT to a FFL dealer first, than that dealer Must put it into the books, then it will come out of the books to the person receiving the gun, which a background check will be made ' I interpreted your statement as CO having legal MJ for humans over the age of 21 and unable to own a firearm. If MJ records are on file, If the lender or receiver's name is their, What would happen ? If there's tons of funding, if they have staff, if and more ifs, then law enforcement might issue a warrant. None of this would result in taking ALL the guns. There millions of MJ users, getting ALL those guns by means of humans literally volunteering to participate in gun-trade/loaning process will take forever. And at that, the humans are still volunteering to use that system, like idiots, instead of just keeping the gun illegally in their possession. The real question is if they want to legally own a gun, why are they using MJ? Why would a human that wants to legally own a gun, use MJ to begin with? Why would they go to an FFL with guns? A lot of this relies on criminals deciding to follow the law all the sudden. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by thumperclone on 04/15/24 at 15:06:21 [quote A lot of this relies on criminals deciding to follow the law ... bumper stickers from the 60s: WHEN GUNS ARE OUTLAWED ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS REGISTER COMMUNISTS NOT FIREARMS the gun debate drags on and on and on ::) |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/15/24 at 16:12:22 the gun debate drags on and on and on The only thing I am debating is that MJ records can result in the Government "taking" "ALL" the guns. It's very unlikely that any agency using MJ records could possibly get every, or ALL, guns. At most they get the guns that law-abiding MJ users give up. If a human wants to legally own a firearm, why would they use MJ to begin with? |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/15/24 at 16:26:59 527270786572170 wrote:
All Guns ? Probably misinterpreted that. 'the guns that are held by the people that ALSO are registered MJ users" (BY various methods) 527270786572170 wrote:
Because the STATE, said they could !!!!! (Then CONVENIENTLY forgot the part about what the FEDERAL Law said) |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/15/24 at 16:39:11 706C716974617667686B6A61040 wrote:
And the BANNING of GUNS, Goes ON and ON and ON and ON and ON. In All sort's of ways, And All sorts of BLAME, for a totally DFI completely disturbed person. Until, FREEDOM, is completely REMOVED, to satisfy the UL, DFI, Progressive, FDS, UL, Socialists. Who do NOT, have a clue, they will be the FIRST to go ! |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/15/24 at 16:53:29 If Hitler was born in the late 60's, did not get syphilis, and their was no USA to spearhead. Their would be NO discussions about Freedom, ANYWHERE, in this WORLD. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/16/24 at 01:36:12 All Guns ? Probably misinterpreted that. 'the guns that are held by the people that ALSO are registered MJ users" (BY various methods) Yes. ALL MJ user guns. I specifically referenced only the millions of MJ users in Denver alone. No amount of voluntary FFL transfers will get rid of ALL those guns. Because the STATE, said they could !!!!! (Then CONVENIENTLY forgot the part about what the FEDERAL Law said) Ok so since they forgot Federal laws exist then they illegally own firearms. When a conceal carry human takes a firearm across State lines without knowing current reciprocation, who's fault is that? The government having MJ records will result in very few firearm confiscations, and it's all voluntary. This whole MJ registrations will be used to TAKE ALL their guns is drastically oversimplified. That strategy is poor, and inefficient, there's much better ways to get guns. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/17/24 at 07:38:16 "... government having MJ records will result in very few firearm confiscations, and it's all voluntary ..." Sounds a lot like: "... let's gut the 2 amendment it will make it much better ..." |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Serowbot on 04/17/24 at 09:22:58 Sometimes I think you love guns more than life itself They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life There's more to living than guns :-/ |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/17/24 at 09:57:30 2234233E26333E25510 wrote:
WOW, Eliminate a entire Sport !!!!!!!!! A ENTIRE, Recreation & Competition, !!!!!!!!!! You had to many beers ? or are you smoking something ? When do you propose (after you get rid of guns) Which of the several Hundreds of Recreations will be next ? |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/17/24 at 10:17:43 "... let's gut the 2 amendment it will make it much better ... A lot of unrelated things that were never said sound "a lot like" I've noticed. Since that wasn't actually said I guess you could make up anything and say it sounds like something else. Millions of MJ users are in Denver, why would ALL of them knowingly lend guns to friends and family using an FFL if they know the guns will be taken away? They won't know? Nobody will do what you did and post it to let people know? The loaning of firearms is an inefficient way to "take ALL" of the guns from MJ users. When a conceal carry human takes a firearm across State lines without knowing current reciprocation, who's fault is that? |
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Title: Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/17/24 at 12:52:28 18383A322F385D0 wrote:
What's this sound like? "... There are more than 5,000 DEATHS each year from Motorcycles, Their is almost 9 Million MOTORCYCLES in the US. Their NEEDS to be a much tighter, CONTROL on who, where, how, Motorcycles are used. Etc, Etc, Etc, ..." - - - - - - "... a conceal carry human takes a firearm across State lines without knowing current reciprocation, who's fault is that?..." Of course, it's his/her fault not knowing the rules in other States. The difference is, Strict Carry Rules are WIDELY, and LOUDLY, Advertised by the majority of dutiful, 'media'. Where 'no gun if MJ, is kept WELL HIDDEN !!! UNTIL ! |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/17/24 at 19:34:14 What's this sound like? "... There are more than 5,000 DEATHS each year from Motorcycles, Their is almost 9 Million MOTORCYCLES in the US. Their NEEDS to be a much tighter, CONTROL on who, where, how, Motorcycles are used. Etc, Etc, Etc, ..." It sounds like motorcycle legislation proposals. The difference is, Strict Carry Rules are WIDELY, and LOUDLY, Advertised by the majority of dutiful, 'media'. Where 'no gun if MJ, is kept WELL HIDDEN !!! UNTIL ! Still the responsibility of the gun owner. No part of gun ownership should be blaming anyone for not making information WIDELY and LOUDLY known to the owner. That's nothing more than deflection. In order to purchase MJ in CO, you sign documentation when you hand over your ID that outlines, in bold, that MJ is considered illegal by the Federal Government. Even at that, very few MJ using humans will have their guns confiscated when the government TAKES all the records from pot shops. People aren't so stupid they will just FFL ALL the guns out of their lives, they will just loan them without following the law, or not loan them at all. This is probably one of the least efficient means of TAKING ALL guns from the populace. The only way for this to sound like a real risk is to avoid observing all other logical responses to an action like this. You know, like sharing it on forums and educating each other. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/18/24 at 08:35:14 7757555D4057320 wrote:
A Yep ! LOLOLOPLOL Tomorrow, their will not be several thousand Storm-troupers breaking doen doors. Tomorrow, THEIR WILL BE, Guns Confiscated because of all sorts of reasons. The day after, just one more reason, MJ. Tomorrow, 10-20 will be Confiscated, Next day, more, next day even more ! Soon, (and how soon depends on WHAT the Ultra-Liberal Fairy Dust Sprinkling, GIMME, GIMME, Socialists do) It will be several Thousand a day. (And accelerating) With more intentionally turning in Guns, simply because they have been brainwashed. They will say things like: "... They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life ..." about Guns. 7757555D4057320 wrote:
Really, it is wrong to inform someone, what can happen ? So if someone is driving a 'Barn Queen' with 12 year old rubber that sat the dirt, it is wrong to tell then to get new tires? OK, Got it ! |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/18/24 at 12:51:14 "With more intentionally turning in Guns, simply because they have been brainwashed." This right here means humans are voluntarily giving their guns away. That is not the government TAKING ALL their guns. If every US Citizen human gives away their guns, too bad for them. It won't happen, but as long as we ignore general logic, we can say tons of US Citizens will just blindly give away ALL their guns. Really, it is wrong to inform someone, what can happen ? No. Nobody said that except you. If logic were to prevail, we would not ignore the fact that humans won't just have their guns surprisingly taken away because the media isn't WIDELY and LOUDLY telling them it can happen. Other humans will say something too. MJ users will simply stop loaning their guns out, or stop going to FFL's to do it. The real problem is that humans want to use MJ and own guns when it's well known, that it is still Federally illegal. They choose to commit a crime. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/18/24 at 14:47:25 19393B332E395C0 wrote:
Who would they giving the guns to ? Who has Brain-Washed them ? Who says: "...They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life ..." ? It seams that one could say: 'They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life' About, Golf Clubs, Tennis/Pickle-Ball rackets, Hockey Sticks, Base/soft ball bats, Or Beer ! and on and on and on. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/18/24 at 16:31:40 Who would they giving the guns to ? Who has Brain-Washed them ? Who says: "...They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life ..." ? It seams that one could say: 'They really aren't necessary for a meaningful life' About, Golf Clubs, Tennis/Pickle-Ball rackets, Hockey Sticks, Base/soft ball bats, Or Beer ! and on and on and on. They can go give those up too, and it still wouldn't be the Government "TAKING ALL" of those items. It would be humans choosing to give away things they shouldn't. This all ignores the fact that humans won't just have their guns surprisingly taken away because the media isn't WIDELY and LOUDLY telling them it can happen. Other humans will say something too. MJ users will simply stop loaning their guns out, or stop going to FFL's to do it. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by MnSpring on 04/18/24 at 17:25:43 2606040C1106630 wrote:
So if/when the Government of the USA says, 'no guns', WHO will 'take' them ? Who will they be, 'surrendered' to ? Why, is a firearm made in 1908, (the SAME OPERATING SYSTEM) of a firearm made in 2024, not the SAME, 'BAD", ????? (GOLLY GEE Wally must be the black plastic) |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/18/24 at 17:52:31 So if/when the Government of the USA says, 'no guns', WHO will 'take' them ? Nobody. The logistical nightmare of trying to forcibly extract firearms from the US populace would not be a viable option. Who will they be, 'surrendered' to ? The designated authority established by policy or law. Why, is a firearm made in 1908, (the SAME OPERATING SYSTEM) of a firearm made in 2024, not the SAME, 'BAD", ????? (GOLLY GEE Wally must be the black plastic) I have no idea, this is nothing more than deflection. No part of gun-mechanics perception establishes an increased chance of FFL transfers effectively "TAKING ALL" of the MJ users guns in the US. They will simply loan their guns without using the FFL transfer, or refuse to loan out guns. A lack of the media WIDELY and LOUDLY telling criminal MJ users owning firearms that Federal law applies to them will change this. Other people will let them know. There will not be thousands of guns surrendered a day because the government TAKES the MJ records. The only way "ALL" or even most, MJ user's guns get confiscated is if we choose ignore all other logical responses, so we can imagine up some nonsense worst-case scenario. Like people refusing to use FFL transfers. If a human chooses to commit the crime of owning a firearm and consuming MJ, they are subject to the legal consequences of those choices. Too bad for them. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by zevenenergie on 04/19/24 at 04:16:30 It is of course important that laws are in place. But what you are overlooking is that once again a group of people, in this case MJ smokers, are registered and restricted. This time in combination whit guns. This fits perfectly with the future of a social points system. That is exactly what a social points system means. Register everything and make limiting consequences. In this case, it is the opponents of weapons who want to endorse it because it suits their interests. But they do not realize that they have once again destroyed a piece of freedom and normalized the possibility of freedom by restricting it and adapting legislation accordingly. And so it is the people who are so-called moralists who contribute to hermetically sealing an inhuman totalitarian system. Moralists are in principle against life it has always been that way. Of course, this is not done consciously, And people who break the law also contribute to it. But you have to see what is happening and why. A social control system is a perfect way to confiscate weapons. All you have to do is lower someone's points balance to the point where bank accounts are blocked and mandatory re-education courses have to be taken, which includes handing in all registered weapons. As long as the social points system is still regarded as a conspiracy theory, the globalists can carry out their plans under the guise of natural technological progress. Social awareness about this is suppressed at all costs because if people were to realize what it entails, we would revolt en masse. A digital currency means the end of cash. And the end of cash is the trapdoor closing. Then you will see the government show its new undemocratic face. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/19/24 at 07:08:27 But what you are overlooking is that once again a group of people, in this case MJ smokers, are registered and restricted. This time in combination whit guns. This fits perfectly with the future of a social points system. It also fits in with the criminals not having firearms system. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by zevenenergie on 04/19/24 at 08:28:01 That remains to be seen because in China the triads (Chinese mafia) have power that is also deeply rooted in the CCP. A social control system is mainly intended to monitor and control citizens. It is in principle corrupt because it is based on an elite that holds power. The problem in america is that citizens have guns and therefore a constitutional amendment change is needed. That won't happen anytime soon.But they will resist this when the net is closed. So you see that legislation is being made and a culture is being cultivated to increasingly limit citizen power, to the point that a social control system can be introduced. Only then can the constitution be changed so that protests will have serius consequences for your points. In China, a points system was already deeply ingrained in the culture. A comprehensive social management system was introduced with the hukou (housing registration). The state relied on the hukou to keep track of where people lived, worked and sent their children to school. And another means of controlling the population is the dang'an (archive). This is a permanent file that keeps track of citizens' performance and attitudes. It contains not only the physical characteristics and work history of individuals, but also peer reviews, achievements from primary school to university, convictions or administrative punishments, association memberships, etc. This file is maintained by local public security agencies. These are precursors of the electronic points system that has been introduced there and that offers far-reaching possibilities for those in power. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by zevenenergie on 04/19/24 at 08:31:28 So it is quite a cultural change that the West has to undergo. People will only accept it if they think there will be an improvement. That is why the government does not want to do anything about immigration. They want to create problems in all possible areas. It is not without reason that legal dugs are now a major problem, or that the influx of migrants is simulated. It is no longer the case that government is based on the needs of society. Governing is based on the realization of a preconceived plan. In this plan you will lose your freedom and your possessions but you will be happy. But criminals will always be there. This phenomenon has not disappeared in China either. A social points system only makes a government more powerful and power always goes hand in hand with corruption. It's nonsense to think that you will no longer encounter a gun-pulling, derailed lunatic or someone who wants to rob you. Such people will always find a way. But your debit card will no longer work if you want to refuel if your points score does not allow it. And you have no cash. This system will never be about promoting well-being. This system is for those in power. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by Eegore on 04/19/24 at 08:42:12 "But your debit card will no longer work if you want to refuel if your points score does not allow it. And you have no cash." I doubt it. Those companies want our money. We are greedy capitalists after all. They have plenty of control by letting us buy things we can't afford. Either way, the government taking ALL MJ records will not result in ALL MJ guns being confiscated. My social points will be through the roof since I don't need the media to LOUDLY and WIDELY tell me that Federal laws exist. |
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Title: Re: (GASP) Guns & MJ Post by zevenenergie on 04/19/24 at 11:23:58 You regularly talk on a motorcycle forum with people who have very suspicious political preferences. That's not good. :o All that fact checking you do on controversial topics. That's not very reliable either :D You hang out with bikers. Oh dear. :-/ |
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