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Reply #15 - 03/04/24 at 06:42:33
 
Votes shmotes... if it weren't for the electoral college, no Republican would ever win the WH
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Reply #16 - 03/04/24 at 08:57:11
 
Well, I can't say I favor a pure democracy either.  There are too many people on both sides of the aisle that are uneducated and don't understand the issues and ramifications - much less possess the critical thinking skills to make a rational decision.  

I'd be in favor of some kind of competency test to vote or have some kind of weighted voting.   It makes no sense that say someone with severe cognitive impairment (or just maybe uninformed and/or ignorant) gets the same weight applied to their vote as someone that has their complete mental faculties that has studied and thought through the issues.
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Reply #17 - 03/04/24 at 09:37:52
 
and the TX electoral votes in the Red bucket.

You sure about that? There have been local Texas Democratic officials openly bragging that they will turn Texas blue using immigration. Of course they say immigration and leave out the illegal immigration.

And with a continued push to allow voting without identification, how would you possibly know if an election was stolen? Remember, if you total the votes in three states, it would’ve taken only a swing of 20,000 votes to change the 2020 election outcome. Only 20,000. Every day there’s massive fraud and deceit going on in the country whether it’s minor theft (my darn helmet got stolen off my bike this weekend), or widespread theft of millions of dollars in corporate dealings. The bigger the prize, the bigger, the temptation to pull it off. This is not a minor issue.
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Reply #18 - 03/04/24 at 09:40:09
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/04/24 at 06:42:33:
Votes shmotes... if it weren't for the electoral college, no Republican would ever win the WH


And that’s why we have an electoral college. Go ahead and look at a map of the votes. All the blue votes are clustered in major cities, that’s it. Every other county is red. The land needs a voice, and that’s what the electoral college does.

As has been said, if there are five lions and four zebras voting on the dinner menu, you’re fine with that as long as you’re a lion.

And it’s thoughts like that from our fair and balanced moderator why liberals are so closely align with socialist. And it’s socialist who killed the most people over history. And if the socialist get a hold of the United States, there will be massive death and famine.
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Reply #19 - 03/04/24 at 09:49:16
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 03/04/24 at 06:13:58:
"... Just put the CA and NY electoral votes in the Blue bucket and the TX electoral votes in the Red bucket.  ..."

That is why I believe 48 States need to use the, "electoral vote" system.  (As it was designed)

Just think, last POTUS election in Calf 55 Blue, would have been 25 Red and 30 Blue.
Minn would have been 5 & 5, instead of 10 Blue.

Across the Nation, if the same system that Maine and Nebraska use, results would be quite different.

The, ' Electoral College' voting system was designed to give a high advantage to people living in, 'civilized' area.  (Large Cities districts)

Today the large Cites area, contain, UL's, and near-do-wells.

The people that live in, pay taxes in, work in, own property in, the far outskirts of the City, and in the, 'country'.
Their votes, DO NOT COUNT. Cause the 'city' people override the count. and', TAKE', their votes as theirs.

(Minn 5-5 in reality, Yet it was 10 for one, because 3 districts, took away the votes of 7 districts!)








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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #20 - 03/04/24 at 10:11:39
 
MAJORTY RULES
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Reply #21 - 03/04/24 at 10:12:02
 
MAJORTY RULES
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Reply #22 - 03/04/24 at 10:24:57
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/04/24 at 09:40:09:
Serowbot wrote on 03/04/24 at 06:42:33:
Votes shmotes... if it weren't for the electoral college, no Republican would ever win the WH


As has been said, if there are five lions and four zebras voting on the dinner menu, you’re fine with that as long as you’re a lion.


I see your point
Do you?
Of course not
The electoral college is weighted to your side
So you're fine with it

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Reply #23 - 03/04/24 at 12:00:07
 
More than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College. There have been more proposals for Constitutional amendments on changing the Electoral College than on any other subject.

It’s an archaic system developed when there were only 13 states and the country wasn’t so polarized.  

People repeating “majority rules” favor an election process that gives equal weight to people with an average IQ or less.  That’s just dumb.  No thanks.

I also don’t buy the BS narrative (fear mongering again) that Democrats are more closely aligned with Socialism.  The elitists on both sides of the aisle are equally happy with passing out just enough to keep the working class under their control. The only real disagreement is how much is “just enough”.  And “just enough” isn’t simply about fiscal policy commonly associated with socialism.
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Reply #24 - 03/04/24 at 12:18:23
 
At least we’re “discussing it”.  Because the price good people pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil people.  Apathy (indifference) on major issues is when we’re all toast.  So let’s keep arguing (discussing) without killing each other.
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Reply #25 - 03/04/24 at 12:26:46
 
thumperclone wrote on 03/04/24 at 10:11:39:
MAJORTY RULES


Again, low information voter. Majority doesn’t rule.
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Reply #26 - 03/04/24 at 12:28:45
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/04/24 at 10:24:57:
WebsterMark wrote on 03/04/24 at 09:40:09:
Serowbot wrote on 03/04/24 at 06:42:33:
Votes shmotes... if it weren't for the electoral college, no Republican would ever win the WH


As has been said, if there are five lions and four zebras voting on the dinner menu, you’re fine with that as long as you’re a lion.


I see your point
Do you?
Of course not
The electoral college is weighted to your side
So you're fine with it



Despite being a leftist, you are not an idiot like others. Are you suggesting the majority of the population selects the president? Majority rule? Get the more votes you’re the top guy of the United States?
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Reply #27 - 03/04/24 at 12:30:37
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 03/04/24 at 12:00:07:
More than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College. There have been more proposals for Constitutional amendments on changing the Electoral College than on any other subject.

It’s an archaic system developed when there were only 13 states and the country wasn’t so polarized.  

People repeating “majority rules” favor an election process that gives equal weight to people with an average IQ or less.  That’s just dumb.  No thanks.

I also don’t buy the BS narrative (fear mongering again) that Democrats are more closely aligned with Socialism.  The elitists on both sides of the aisle are equally happy with passing out just enough to keep the working class under their control. The only real disagreement is how much is “just enough”.  And “just enough” isn’t simply about fiscal policy commonly associated with socialism.


Politicians are united when it comes to gaining power by handing out money. That’s absolutely true. Democrats are united on social topics that are clearly aligned with socialist philosophies.

And by the way, I appreciate your willingness to exchange comments. We desperately need new voices at this little table of ours.
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Reply #28 - 03/04/24 at 13:08:13
 
Thanks for the welcome.

But if we’re going to agree that Democrats are aligned with socialist ideals, we need to also agree that Republicans are aligned with fascist ideals.  The country looks and acts like a drunken sailor continuing to walk this way.  None of us are benefiting.
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Reply #29 - 03/04/24 at 14:09:48
 
I can give you solid, real world evidence the Democratic Party is alined with socialist ideas and in fact have put those into practice.

You cannot give me evidence the other way.
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