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Message started by thumperclone on 03/01/24 at 12:37:35

Title: foreigners
Post by thumperclone on 03/01/24 at 12:37:35

words of wit from the witless orange one

"We have languages coming into our country. Nobody speaks  those languages' they're truly foreign languages. Nobody speaks them."

our country has a history of foreign languages most end up learning english

"Nobody speaks them."
huh  :-? somebody must be speaking them or it wouldn't be an issue for your deluded worm eaten brain

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by MnSpring on 03/01/24 at 13:00:43

So if I am from the USA,
Go to France,
Then ask which train goes from A to B.
And I ask in English.
Am I to, EXPECT, a answer in English ?

If I am from France
Go to the USA
Then ask If I can rent a car to go from A to B
And I ask In French.
Am I to, EXPECT, a answer in French ?





Title: Re: foreigners
Post by thumperclone on 03/01/24 at 13:40:09

when I was in France you were hard pressed for them to speak English

what are the odds of your immigrant ancestors spoke English as a first language

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by Serowbot on 03/01/24 at 14:19:01

Who knew?
Nobody knew.
And only we spell our country "US"

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/02/24 at 05:54:43

I’m fortunate to travel internationally for work on occasion and in any major city, every hotel and nearby restaurant or other frequently visited business always has people who speak English. All the companies I had appointments with had plenty of people who spoke English. In fact, at the level of. Y contacts, I don’t recall anyone who did not speak English. My current company is based in Sweden but is international in scope and we have online English classes. English is the universal language for business and science. Blame in on Great Britain if you want but that’s the reality.

And by the way, in the Biblical story of The Tower of Babel, the reason for other languages was to force separation, to keep all people from communicating clearly with one another. Otherwise, as the good book says, “…there’s nothing they (humans) can’t accomplish”.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by Serowbot on 03/02/24 at 08:20:28


536166777061764965766F040 wrote:
“…there’s nothing they (humans) can’t accomplish”.

Cure colds
make roads that don't pothole
make a can opener that works on oval sardine cans
make a gun that shoots orgasms

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by thumperclone on 03/02/24 at 09:05:15

“…there’s nothing they (humans) can’t accomplish”.[/quote]

cure stupidity
end hate


Title: Re: foreigners
Post by zevenenergie on 03/02/24 at 09:54:11

I think it is clear to everyone that it is not about English. English is a very easy language to learn. I spoke it fluently when I was eight and I don't know anyone who doesn't speak English.

Although I am a fan of Trump, I think this kind of rhetoric is harmful.

There are many reasons to have a good in-migration policy and there are no bad consequences of a good in-migration policy.
We don't live on a planet where you can open all the doors.

There's a reason why those doors are thrown open.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vPndg4xBSzs

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/03/24 at 05:26:55

Apparently they can’t read very well either because the point was language and therefore cultural and social differences keep us from accomplishing anything which is by design.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/03/24 at 05:29:44

There's a reason why those doors are thrown open.

There’s only one reason and one reason only: new voters for the Democratic Party. That’s all. If these “migrants” had MAGA hats on, the media would call them what they are, which is illegal aliens, and troops would be posted on the border.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by Serowbot on 03/03/24 at 06:56:45

Here in America, we speak English
English,... was invented by.... the English, not Americans.
Nobody knew that
We speak a foreign language
Nobody knew that
Nobody
:-?

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by MnSpring on 03/03/24 at 15:20:08


Quote:
"... new voters for the Democratic Party. That’s all. If these “migrants” had MAGA hats on, the media would call them what they are, which is illegal aliens,  ..."


What a GREAT Idea !
Drop off all those red hats,
then tell the ILLEGALS,
they will NEVER get into the USA
Regardless of what the NGO's say.
 (Of course, say it in Spanglish)


Title: Re: foreigners
Post by MnSpring on 03/03/24 at 15:23:13


584E59445C49445F2B0 wrote:
"...English,... was invented by.... the English, not Americans..."


"...English language, Language belonging to the Germanic languages branch of the Indo-European language family, widely spoken on six continents. The primary language of the U.S., Britain, Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand, and various Caribbean and Pacific island nations, it is also an official language of India, the Philippines, and many sub-Saharan African countries. It is one of the most widely spoken languages in the world (approximately 1.5 billion speakers), the mother tongue of more than 350 million people, and the most widely taught foreign language. English relies mainly on word order (usually subject-verb-object) to indicate relationships between words (see syntax). Written in the Latin alphabet, it is most closely related to Frisian, German, and Dutch. Its history began with the migration of the Jutes, Angles, and Saxons from Germany and Denmark to Britain in the 5th and 6th centuries. The Norman Conquest of 1066 brought many French words into English. Greek and Latin words began to enter it in the 15th century, and Modern English is usually dated from 1500. English easily borrows words from other languages and has coined many new words to reflect advances in technology..."


Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/04/24 at 04:27:02


083A3D2C2B3A2D123E2D345F0 wrote:
There's a reason why those doors are thrown open.

There’s only one reason and one reason only: new voters for the Democratic Party. That’s all. If these “migrants” had MAGA hats on, the media would call them what they are, which is illegal aliens, and troops would be posted on the border.


In a perfect follow up to this, here’s part of Garland’s comment Sunday morning. This is the ONLY reason Democrats are allowing illegal aliens to flood across the border.

“That is why we are challenging efforts by states and jurisdictions to implement discriminatory, burdensome, and unnecessary restrictions on access to the ballot, including those related to mail-in voting, the use of drop boxes, and voter ID requirements.”

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/04/24 at 06:13:58


447671606776615E726178130 wrote:
[quote author=083A3D2C2B3A2D123E2D345F0 link=1709325455/0#9 date=1709472584]There's a reason why those doors are thrown open.

There’s only one reason and one reason only: new voters for the Democratic Party. That’s all. If these “migrants” had MAGA hats on, the media would call them what they are, which is illegal aliens, and troops would be posted on the border.


In a perfect follow up to this, here’s part of Garland’s comment Sunday morning. This is the ONLY reason Democrats are allowing illegal aliens to flood across the border.

“That is why we are challenging efforts by states and jurisdictions to implement discriminatory, burdensome, and unnecessary restrictions on access to the ballot, including those related to mail-in voting, the use of drop boxes, and voter ID requirements.”[/quote]

Even as a right-leaning independent that is angered by illegal immigration, I call BS.  Federal law states that it is unlawful for a noncitizen to vote in federal elections and trying to vote illegally is pretty difficult to pull off.  Some states allow non-citizens to vote in local elections.  This is wrong in my opinion, but putting that aside, the main fear mongering that Democrats are somehow trying to import votes is BS.

Even if it were true, you have to look at where elections get decided - in the moderate swing states that generally aren’t overwhelmed with an illegal alien population.  Without even having an illegal immigration problem, we honestly don’t even need an election in California, New York, Texas to name a few.  Just put the CA and NY electoral votes in the Blue bucket and the TX electoral votes in the Red bucket.  You could do this with about 30+ other states.  Even if there were 10 million extra illegal votes for the Democratic candidate in California, CA was already dark blue without those illegal votes (thus a moot point).  I also think it’s pretty shallow-minded (or brainwashed) to assume and believe that all illegal aliens (if allowed to vote) would vote Democratic.  But this is the line of “thinking” and fear mongering thrown around.  They won’t admit it, but they think all people of color and/or speak a language besides English are all Democrats.  Maybe they should spend more time appealing to these people rather than squashing them.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by Serowbot on 03/04/24 at 06:42:33

Votes shmotes... if it weren't for the electoral college, no Republican would ever win the WH

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/04/24 at 08:57:11

Well, I can't say I favor a pure democracy either.  There are too many people on both sides of the aisle that are uneducated and don't understand the issues and ramifications - much less possess the critical thinking skills to make a rational decision.  

I'd be in favor of some kind of competency test to vote or have some kind of weighted voting.   It makes no sense that say someone with severe cognitive impairment (or just maybe uninformed and/or ignorant) gets the same weight applied to their vote as someone that has their complete mental faculties that has studied and thought through the issues.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/04/24 at 09:37:52

and the TX electoral votes in the Red bucket.

You sure about that? There have been local Texas Democratic officials openly bragging that they will turn Texas blue using immigration. Of course they say immigration and leave out the illegal immigration.

And with a continued push to allow voting without identification, how would you possibly know if an election was stolen? Remember, if you total the votes in three states, it would’ve taken only a swing of 20,000 votes to change the 2020 election outcome. Only 20,000. Every day there’s massive fraud and deceit going on in the country whether it’s minor theft (my darn helmet got stolen off my bike this weekend), or widespread theft of millions of dollars in corporate dealings. The bigger the prize, the bigger, the temptation to pull it off. This is not a minor issue.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/04/24 at 09:40:09


2335223F27323F24500 wrote:
Votes shmotes... if it weren't for the electoral college, no Republican would ever win the WH


And that’s why we have an electoral college. Go ahead and look at a map of the votes. All the blue votes are clustered in major cities, that’s it. Every other county is red. The land needs a voice, and that’s what the electoral college does.

As has been said, if there are five lions and four zebras voting on the dinner menu, you’re fine with that as long as you’re a lion.

And it’s thoughts like that from our fair and balanced moderator why liberals are so closely align with socialist. And it’s socialist who killed the most people over history. And if the socialist get a hold of the United States, there will be massive death and famine.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by MnSpring on 03/04/24 at 09:49:16


516D706875607755647069050 wrote:
"... Just put the CA and NY electoral votes in the Blue bucket and the TX electoral votes in the Red bucket.  ..."

That is why I believe 48 States need to use the, "electoral vote" system.  (As it was designed)

Just think, last POTUS election in Calf 55 Blue, would have been 25 Red and 30 Blue.
Minn would have been 5 & 5, instead of 10 Blue.

Across the Nation, if the same system that Maine and Nebraska use, results would be quite different.

The, ' Electoral College' voting system was designed to give a high advantage to people living in, 'civilized' area.  (Large Cities districts)

Today the large Cites area, contain, UL's, and near-do-wells.

The people that live in, pay taxes in, work in, own property in, the far outskirts of the City, and in the, 'country'.
Their votes, DO NOT COUNT. Cause the 'city' people override the count. and', TAKE', their votes as theirs.

(Minn 5-5 in reality, Yet it was 10 for one, because 3 districts, took away the votes of 7 districts!)









Title: Re: foreigners
Post by thumperclone on 03/04/24 at 10:11:39

MAJORTY RULES

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by thumperclone on 03/04/24 at 10:12:02

MAJORTY RULES

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by Serowbot on 03/04/24 at 10:24:57


7A484F5E59485F604C5F462D0 wrote:
[quote author=2335223F27323F24500 link=1709325455/15#15 date=1709563353]Votes shmotes... if it weren't for the electoral college, no Republican would ever win the WH


As has been said, if there are five lions and four zebras voting on the dinner menu, you’re fine with that as long as you’re a lion.

[/quote]
I see your point
Do you?
Of course not
The electoral college is weighted to your side
So you're fine with it


Title: Re: foreigners
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/04/24 at 12:00:07

More than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College. There have been more proposals for Constitutional amendments on changing the Electoral College than on any other subject.

It’s an archaic system developed when there were only 13 states and the country wasn’t so polarized.  

People repeating “majority rules” favor an election process that gives equal weight to people with an average IQ or less.  That’s just dumb.  No thanks.

I also don’t buy the BS narrative (fear mongering again) that Democrats are more closely aligned with Socialism.  The elitists on both sides of the aisle are equally happy with passing out just enough to keep the working class under their control. The only real disagreement is how much is “just enough”.  And “just enough” isn’t simply about fiscal policy commonly associated with socialism.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/04/24 at 12:18:23

At least we’re “discussing it”.  Because the price good people pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil people.  Apathy (indifference) on major issues is when we’re all toast.  So let’s keep arguing (discussing) without killing each other.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/04/24 at 12:26:46


3C203D25382D3A2B2427262D480 wrote:
MAJORTY RULES


Again, low information voter. Majority doesn’t rule.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/04/24 at 12:28:45


3523342931242932460 wrote:
[quote author=7A484F5E59485F604C5F462D0 link=1709325455/15#18 date=1709574009][quote author=2335223F27323F24500 link=1709325455/15#15 date=1709563353]Votes shmotes... if it weren't for the electoral college, no Republican would ever win the WH


As has been said, if there are five lions and four zebras voting on the dinner menu, you’re fine with that as long as you’re a lion.

[/quote]
I see your point
Do you?
Of course not
The electoral college is weighted to your side
So you're fine with it

[/quote]

Despite being a leftist, you are not an idiot like others. Are you suggesting the majority of the population selects the president? Majority rule? Get the more votes you’re the top guy of the United States?

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/04/24 at 12:30:37


625E435B4653446657435A360 wrote:
More than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College. There have been more proposals for Constitutional amendments on changing the Electoral College than on any other subject.

It’s an archaic system developed when there were only 13 states and the country wasn’t so polarized.  

People repeating “majority rules” favor an election process that gives equal weight to people with an average IQ or less.  That’s just dumb.  No thanks.

I also don’t buy the BS narrative (fear mongering again) that Democrats are more closely aligned with Socialism.  The elitists on both sides of the aisle are equally happy with passing out just enough to keep the working class under their control. The only real disagreement is how much is “just enough”.  And “just enough” isn’t simply about fiscal policy commonly associated with socialism.


Politicians are united when it comes to gaining power by handing out money. That’s absolutely true. Democrats are united on social topics that are clearly aligned with socialist philosophies.

And by the way, I appreciate your willingness to exchange comments. We desperately need new voices at this little table of ours.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by ThumperPaul on 03/04/24 at 13:08:13

Thanks for the welcome.

But if we’re going to agree that Democrats are aligned with socialist ideals, we need to also agree that Republicans are aligned with fascist ideals.  The country looks and acts like a drunken sailor continuing to walk this way.  None of us are benefiting.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by WebsterMark on 03/04/24 at 14:09:48

I can give you solid, real world evidence the Democratic Party is alined with socialist ideas and in fact have put those into practice.

You cannot give me evidence the other way.

Title: Re: foreigners
Post by MnSpring on 03/04/24 at 18:31:44


4E524F574A5F48595655545F3A0 wrote:
MAJORTY RULES


OK, Let that happen then.

Do not STEAL Votes from people.









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