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Reply #15 - 10/12/21 at 17:26:00
 
Sounds like the last vestige of a losing argument.
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Reply #16 - 10/12/21 at 19:29:59
 
 Yeah I still don't see this as elimination.  Definitely a major restructuring, and most likely not very efficient.

 I am not however one of those if it's not broke don't fix it types as I feel any program, especially large scale, needs to update with the environment around it.

 I will sit down with a personal advisory board, half chosen by other people, every two years to help evaluate my decisions in life.
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Reply #17 - 10/13/21 at 03:50:05
 
This is a perfect example of the difference between leftist and what I would consider normal people.

Rather than addressed the uncomfortable questions as to why the test scores of black and Hispanic children on early age performance tests don’t warrant selecting them for gifted programs as often as Asian and white students, you would rather change the program so you’re not forced to face this. Essentially, you would sacrifice a future Einstein on the mantle of what we’re calling nowadays: equity.

If we look at this numerically, this change ensures that instead of two or three “10”s, instead we produce a few “7”s, a couple “6”s, a big group of “5” and “3”s.  

Eegore, what exactly does “not as efficient” mean in a practical sense. It means we lose a potential benefit of a gifted student having concentrated education opportunities and the value they brings to society over the years.

You people are screwed up.
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Reply #18 - 10/13/21 at 03:51:15
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/12/21 at 17:26:00:
Sounds like the last vestige of a losing argument.

It’s a reality you don’t want to address so you change the definition of words like life. But you’re right, that’s a different discussion and it doesn’t belong here.
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Reply #19 - 10/13/21 at 08:55:54
 

"Rather than addressed the uncomfortable questions as to why the test scores of black and Hispanic children on early age performance tests don’t warrant selecting them for gifted programs as often as Asian and white students, you would rather change the program so you’re not forced to face this. Essentially, you would sacrifice a future Einstein on the mantle of what we’re calling nowadays: equity."


 I would not rather do that.  All I am saying is if someone tells me a program is cancelled, or eliminated I expect that program to not exist.  In this case the program exists, just poorly.  So instead of calling it something it isn't just to stir people up, call it what it actually is and solve the actual problems.


"Eegore, what exactly does “not as efficient” mean in a practical sense. It means we lose a potential benefit of a gifted student having concentrated education opportunities and the value they brings to society over the years."

 I agree with that.
 

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Reply #20 - 10/13/21 at 09:07:54
 
I doubt if a 4 year old Einstein or his future equivalent really need help.
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Reply #21 - 10/13/21 at 09:36:36
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/13/21 at 09:07:54:
I doubt if a 4 year old Einstein or his future equivalent really need help.  


let’s see,
a 4 year old, showing great promise,
to become a really smart person.

           Is Waylaid,
           BECAUSE.


His Great Great  Great, grandparents,
came from a Western European country.
And his skin is white !

In favor of a, ‘dreamer’,
who shows less potential,
all for the,
“ feel-good stand against racism “

A-Yep,
Keep dumbing Down America,
so this Nation can have more,

Socialistic, Puppet,
'Mush-For-Brains', POTUS's


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Reply #22 - 10/13/21 at 10:18:41
 
They are not excluding white children from anything.
They are changing a criteria to give all children a chance to develop and be evaluated for advancement.
Color is not an issue.

I'm done with this non-issue.
Trumpettes love their little tempests in teapots.
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Reply #23 - 10/13/21 at 11:52:26
 
Color is an issue and the in fact is the ONLY reason for considering a change to begin with. They’re not even trying to hide that fact.

But go ahead and turn away. As Jog is fond of saying to leftist who ignore reality, “Nothing to see here.”
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Re: How ridiculous are today’s liberals?
Reply #24 - 10/14/21 at 03:46:53
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/12/21 at 16:21:47:
WebsterMark wrote on 10/12/21 at 15:34:42:
You really think a public school system as large as New York City with union teachers is capable of giving instructions in the same classroom to selected students equal to what  can be given to selected students in their own environment? Do you really think that’s possible?

I don't think that's the question.
The question is, do you think a child's future should be decided based on a single test given at age 4?...


A child’s future is not based on that single test. That test identifies exceptional ones who are more likely to understand complicated material at an early age and they are moved to an appropriate level of education. Otherwise they languish with average students. They are not average. Don’t treat them that way. Celebrate exceptionalism.
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