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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #75 - 10/22/21 at 14:54:07

Going with an 18" rear rim and a 120/80-18 tire was a bit of a crap shoot on how it would fit with the swingarm. I knew it would be close. To make full range of the chain tensioning slots in the swingarm, it will require some cutting and welding. It looks like I need about 3/8"-1/2" more clearance to avoid tire rub at the fully tight position. After the sprockets and chain are on and I can see where the chain will be cut I will take some final measurements before actually cutting anything. With that bit of knowledge, and seeing how the seat/tail fits, both the swingarm and frame with see some welding. And that means both will get totally stripped and powder coated. Color change will see them metallic silver, and the body work will be Navy blue. Cool

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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2625 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #76 - 10/22/21 at 15:06:29 It does look good. It’s a shame that the swingarm can’t maintain that angle.
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1201 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #77 - 10/22/21 at 15:20:20 Yeah, this is not the finished ride height at all. Just a very loose mock up for visuals. The rims, spokes, nipples, and assembly at Buchanon's wasn't cheap by any means, but the end result is worth it! They do really amazing work. All parts made at their own manufacturing plant.
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1201 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #78 - 10/22/21 at 15:40:39 So this is pretty close to what the angle would be at full shock extension, so actual ride ride will sit a bit lower.
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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #79 - 10/22/21 at 15:58:23

Well, Gary, you got me going. After moving the board stack around, and measuring the rear shock mounts, then doing it again... thanks to my wife for adding and deleting boards while I lifted! This is about where it will sit under rider weight to my best guess at this point. This is reflecting about a 1/2" compression on the shock from full extension. Until I have the shocks I don't think I could get any more accurate than this. Definitely looks more realistic in this stance.

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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1201 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #80 - 10/22/21 at 16:31:53 angle #1
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1201 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #81 - 10/22/21 at 16:32:17 Angle #2
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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #82 - 10/22/21 at 18:27:33

You will find with the OEM swingarm, the longest shocks the bike will tolerate without chain slap is 13.25”. At just 1/8” longer the chain will contact the heading edge of the swingarm when the suspension unloads. Just as well, the steering trail will be a short 3.25 inches with the wheel and fork set up you have there.

BTW, I have used Buchanan spoke kits too with Sun rims. The spoke kits are spot on. I’ve never had them build them because 1) it was fun to learn (and it’s easy) and 2) I’m too darn cheap.

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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1201 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #83 - 10/22/21 at 18:53:42 CL MotoTech offers either 320mm (12.59") , 340mm (13.38") , or 360mm (14.17") . I figured 320mm was too short. 340mm too long? I have seen some builds with a abrasion resistant material wrapped around the front of the swingarm for protection like most dirt bikes. An option if needed.
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2625 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #84 - 10/22/21 at 19:24:55 The CL Moto shocks are adjustable and are available in 310-320mm or 330-340mm. The chain guide material is just that, a guide. When the chain rubs it will become a sacrificial material and will wear quickly.
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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #85 - 10/22/21 at 21:43:10

TheSneeze wrote on 10/20/21 at 15:21:15:

I finished putting the front forks back together, minus the oil. The stock caps are on only to keep dust out of them until the new fork caps arrive. Once I have those, I will put new oil in and seal them up. I have been looking at handlebars and clamps trying to decide what I will use. I bought fork caps with adjusters, so I really need to wait until they are on to take some accurate measurements and determine how tall of a rise I will need.

Looks like a bottom triple on the top. Just wanted to point out that you can get a nice new top clamp if you wanted to.

dcmotive.com/products/suzuki-ls650-s40-savage-flat-pinch-triple-clamp

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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1201 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #86 - 10/22/21 at 22:34:05 Once I saw the cost of some of these upper triple clamps, I went with modifying a stock lower. I paid $22 plus shipping and some labor. The budget is not limitless. Money saved in areas like this means more available to spend where it counts. Just my $0.02...
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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #87 - 10/23/21 at 14:50:54

I have never seen a zinc plated steel spark plug adapter used in an aluminum motorcycle head before. This adapter does not show on the exploded view of the cylinder head on Partzilla. The spark plug was way too tight, and hard to break free taking it out. It is the correct plug - NGK DPR8EA 9. Is this an aftermarket adapter or stock?

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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1201 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #88 - 10/23/21 at 14:55:53 I have 1/4" of slot left in the chain tensioner when my tire is against the inside of the swing arm. I'm planning on removing 1/2" for clearance.
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