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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1204 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #465 - 01/30/22 at 10:03:34 A little pressure while supporting it in the vise and it straightened up nicely.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28790 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #466 - 01/30/22 at 19:05:46 What's important to be aware of on the guides is the plastic. We had 1 report of the plastic coming off the spine and clogging the oil pump. Don't remember him doing anything to the guide, but straightening and numerous cracks would be cause for concern.
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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1204 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #467 - 01/30/22 at 19:08:37 I was pretty gentle with it, and it didn't have to move much to get the arc back in it. I will check it carefully under magnification and look for any cracks. If I see any I will replace it.
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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #468 - 01/31/22 at 11:46:52

As of this morning, all of the top end parts are at the engine builder's shop. He told me he is 3 - 4 weeks for completion of the job (valve seats, head porting, cylinder hone, ring gapping). I was hoping to have the motor back together by the end of February, but now it is looking more like March. I will have all the powder coating done before I get the motor parts back.

Yesterday I started making thicker mount plates for my mid controls. By utilizing the stock muffler support bracket, it complicated the right side. These pics ore the initial shape - not final yet. They still may change. I have scrapped the idea to join the two frame mount plates using a 2" angle. Still chewing on it, but I am leaning on not joining the right and left sides into one assembly and keep them as separate bolt on units.

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Reply #469 - 01/31/22 at 11:50:30

As you can see on the right side, the muffler support bracket really gets in the way of everything. One of the main reasons I mat keep each side as a separate bolt on assembly instead of joining them across the middle of the bike. I am still trying to figure out the brake pedal pivot position and the linkage to the rear wheel. And how to keep the foot pegs symmetrical. Yeah, that too... Shocked

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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2697 WTF is JOG?	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #470 - 01/31/22 at 15:18:59 Not sure what the final plan is but make sure you get your pegs high enough for safe cornering. My pegs are above the stock pipe and shift shaft.
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Reply #471 - 01/31/22 at 15:45:56

I am still working out the outer mount plate that holds the pegs. I was taking note of your set up, and where the upper bolt was in relation to the swing arm pivot. Do you happen to know the distance from the outside of your pegs, side to side? My KZ750 with Tarozzi rear sets is about 24". These may end up closer to 25".

The outer plate shape and position is still being worked out. There will be two spacer tubes welded between the inner and outer plates. Not sure if the left and right assemblies will be joined across the middle yet. But so far the template looks like this.

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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1204 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #472 - 01/31/22 at 16:23:07 Did you trim the countershaft pulley cover to follow the lines of the foot peg? The rear edge appears to be at a different angle.
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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #473 - 01/31/22 at 18:13:33

I see where you are going. That makes more sense now. One concern I would have is the top of the plate possibly pulling out from the leverage of the peg.

Maybe a peg that has a straight mount like our rear pegs would work well with that style mount to reduce the leverage?

Or possibly tie the tops together to keep those forces in check (if needed)?

Not being critical of your work. Just thinking out loud here.

Yes, I did trim the cover on the belt. I was just trying to keep everything tight to the bike. Also, my shift lever is a little short so the pull is a little heavy. Not so heavy I can't ride in tennis shoes, just takes a firm pull for upshifts. I might keep the linkage if/when I do my next project.

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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #474 - 01/31/22 at 18:22:12

Due to the added leverage from the lower mounts I am making the plates from .188" cold rolled flat bar. It will be rigid enough. The lower chain run is in the way, so an additional gusset as high as I can get it may be added. This whole thing is still in a state of flux, and changing every time I look at it! Even the inner mount plates may be remade. This is why they call it custom design work. Never just right the first time through.

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TheSneeze Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1204 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #475 - 01/31/22 at 18:26:57 What centerline distance between your foot peg and shifter? Same with your brake pedal. I am using (or going to try) the stock brake pedal if I can. My peg to shifter is planned 5.5" - which is the spacing on my rear sets on my KZ.
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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #476 - 02/01/22 at 04:36:55

TheSneeze wrote on 12/23/21 at 10:27:41:

Crankshaft drive gear = 36 teeth, Clutch basket = 68 teeth

Well it only took me a month to reply to this.

I just counted the teeth on a 5 speed engine.

Crankshaft drive gear 37, Clutch Basket 67

Your 4 speed bike has a 0.5294 ratio.....the 5 speed is 0.5522 ratio.

The change is a 4.3% higher drive for the 5 speed.

If you want to trade one of your 4 speed gear sets for a 5 speed.....I am willing to trade with you.

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Dan P YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 25 Northern Nevada Gender:	Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build Reply #477 - 02/01/22 at 06:58:11 Ohiomoto, do you recall what bike you sourced out your brake pedal from ? Thank you
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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #478 - 02/01/22 at 08:04:57

Dave wrote on 02/01/22 at 04:36:55:

TheSneeze wrote on 12/23/21 at 10:27:41:

Crankshaft drive gear = 36 teeth, Clutch basket = 68 teeth

If you want to trade one of your 4 speed gear sets for a 5 speed.....I am willing to trade with you.

Is the 5 speed gear set a straight swap into a 4 speed early case? I had assumed that wouldn't work, so I didn't consider pursuing it. I have two sets of transmissions (actually two full bottom ends). Since my bike has less than 10k miles on it I was considering leaving the bottom end sealed. Do you know of anyone who has swapped the transmission gear sets?

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Re: 1987 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #479 - 02/01/22 at 09:23:46

I don't know if anyone has ever made the swap.

I assumed that they would interchange - as I thought that only the early 4 speed bikes had the 36/68....and later 4 speed bikes had the 37/67. I will go look on a parts list and see what I can find out.

I know the cases and transmissions won't swap, as the 5 speed has an extra shaft and slider for the additional gear.

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