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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #360 - 01/02/22 at 10:52:53
 
You don’t need/want the shocks in place to do a swing survey. You have two data points to work with; the length of the shock fully extended and it’s known travel. Use the jack to place the bike at a height of the fully extended shock. Then use an analog for the shock in the fully compressed position. I use a tie down strap. Lift the wheel and attach the tie down hooks, one to the upper shock mount and one to the lower. Done.
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Reply #361 - 01/02/22 at 11:25:17
 
Just compressing the shocks with the tie downs told the story.  You guys were right, the chain will hit under full compression.  That natural position in the bend of the brackets was just a bit too convenient.  I will start looking at some of the other ideas/options.  The whole reason to just tack things and check them out thoroughly before going hog wild and welding it all up on the bench...
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Reply #362 - 01/02/22 at 11:25:47
 
closer view
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Reply #363 - 01/02/22 at 12:52:26
 
With the chain conversion there isn't much room between the frame and the chain to add plates on the outside using the battery mount bracket bolt locations.
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Reply #364 - 01/02/22 at 12:55:51
 
Another option would be to tie the round tube into the stock muffler support bracket.  I could slit the tube to move it rearward off the frame rail.  I could also tie/brace the tube with plates that tie into the rear lower motor mounts.    I really don't want to make individual/different peg mounts for each side.  It would make it harder to keep the two sides symmetrical imho.
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Re: 1986 Savage Street Tracker build
Reply #365 - 01/02/22 at 14:33:27
 
You have the one motor mount bolt to work with. If you don't want to mess with the swingarm pivot bolt, you can weld a lug onto the rear of the curve of the frame. Those two spots will give you plenty of support. Some guys shy away from welding on the frame, but you already moved your kickstand,,,,,,so,,,,welding a lug should be a piece of cake.
The muffler support bracket would need to be braced alot, it is not made to carry the weight of a rider standing on the pegs. Whatever you do, test it by jumping up and down on each peg before ever riding it.
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Reply #366 - 01/02/22 at 15:24:52
 
Welding some tabs to the frame is definitely on the table.  This bike will never go back to a stock restoration.  Tying into the lower rear motor mount and another tab welded to the frame is the best solution for support while keeping the entire foot control mount underneath the chain.  The entire frame and swing arm will be stripped and powder coated anyway.  Right now I am playing with cardboard and a scissors.  I want this to end up looking clean when finished, not cobbled together like a hack with a $50 MIG welder from a garage sale.
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Reply #367 - 01/02/22 at 15:43:12
 
Duplicating the tab on the right side, that is used to mount the muffler brace bracket, on the left side sounds like a good starting point.
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Reply #368 - 01/02/22 at 18:39:13
 
I did mine with the stock shocks and belt.  It was still a tight fit.

But it can be done.  RYCAs bracket worked with longer shocks and they offered a modified version to work with chain conversions.
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Reply #369 - 01/04/22 at 15:13:14
 
I haven't been successful in finding a good picture of the RYCA foot control bracket.  I would definitely like to see how they were doing it.
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Reply #370 - 01/05/22 at 16:27:27
 
I pretty much copied theirs except for the center bar (I had planned on putting a removable crossmember there but never got around to it or needed it) and I shaped the ears on mine a little different to work with the pegs I had.

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Reply #371 - 01/05/22 at 16:33:06
 
nerdsport did a cool build and did his own take on a RYCA bracket.  He used the factory pedals on his but I think he might have had a high pipe.


EDIT:  LOL, both of those pictures were contained in this thread.

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Reply #372 - 01/05/22 at 16:40:06
 
I am not a fan of the dirt bike pegs.  I would rather use some rubber ones to  cut down on the foot buzz.  I have some .120" thick cold roll steel coming to start cutting brackets.  Doing a lot of playing with cardboard right now for ideas and shapes.  Deep in the deign phase...  but it may take a few more cold ones before I settle on something. Cool
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Reply #373 - 01/05/22 at 21:28:14
 
Oh, looky, looky!!!  I finally scored the exhaust I was looking for.  It showed up today.  An unused Mac Performance exhaust.  All of the clamps and bracketry came with it.  Another piece of the puzzle.  As soon as the piston comes in, the top end machine work will commence.   This baby's gonna breathe!
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Reply #374 - 01/07/22 at 14:00:43
 
Mocking up the exhaust position to make sure the foot peg mount doesn't want to be in the same place.  The mount will utilize the lower rear motor mount and the exhaust mount bracket tab on the right side, and I will weld a tab on the left in the same position.  Two frame mount positions on each side of the foot peg mounting assembly.
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