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Reply #30 - 10/11/20 at 15:36:07
 
The hole cutter I used is manufactured by General Tools.  I don't have a part number but I can find them with a simple google search "General Tools Hole Cutter".
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Reply #31 - 10/11/20 at 15:39:51
 
I remove the 3/16" tool bit provided with the hole cutter and replaced it with a standard HSS 3/16" tool bit.  I removed the drill bit and left it out.  Used the standard drive shank of the cutter assembly as a pilot.  Use a vinyl vacuum cap over the free end of the bit so you don't get gaffed by the bit.


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Reply #32 - 10/11/20 at 15:42:00
 
That is really disappointing to hear of the pipe & muffler irregularities.
The set I got fit the head as it should; the pipe itself was smooth and straight; the muffler was on the loud side but it did have a baffle, don’t remember what exactly but it was metal and not fiber.
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Reply #33 - 10/11/20 at 15:42:31
 
Used a chunk of 1-3/4" aluminum bar stock for a plug.  Drill thru 3/8"  and counter drill 1/2" diameter by 5/8" deep.  The drive shank of the cutter slips into the plug.  Use shim stock to center the plug in the pipe.  You want a drive-fit, it can't be loose.
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Reply #34 - 10/11/20 at 15:45:08
 
It looks like this when it's ready to rock-n-roll with the exception that the HSS tool bit is installed instead of the as delivered (pointed bit).  Also, I plunged the bit into the face of the flange, not the OD.  See the pic I posted originally.
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Reply #35 - 10/11/20 at 15:47:37
 
You can turn the reconfigured cutter assembly with a 3/4" wrench.
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Reply #36 - 10/11/20 at 16:00:57
 
As I mentioned earlier, this is waaaaaaay too much trouble.  It does a nice job but a Big Ole File will do the job just fine.  Just keep track of the wall thickness.  Use the wooden clamp to hang onto the pipe.

Regarding the quality.  Both of my Mac header pipes are excellent quality as far as finish and bends.  They are double wall and plenty stout.  The chrome on the original is good as is the flame spray on the latest purchase.  As Lancer mentioned, the original offering fit just fine, flange was perfect.  And once I trimmed the flange on the second purchase, it fit like a glove.  Everything fit just fine.  The muffler mount is solid and aligns correctly.  Muffler to pipe joint is tight and leak free.  Clearance is good everywhere.

Of course, the oversize flange is inexcusable.  To me, that's primarily on Dennis Kirk.  They have to know that this problem exists so they should have said up front that it's messed up.  Dennis Kirk sold us the exhaust systems.  I know Mac made em wrong, but Dennis Kirk collected our money.

I still think it's a great price for an exhaust system, even if you have to do a little work on that flange.  But oh boy, that noise.  Have to find a solution for that noise.  Lips Sealed

Dave, I suspect your idea to force the flow out and back in will do a pretty decent job of reducing the decibles but it will also probably strangle the flow a bit.  Also, congrats on successfully reducing the OD of your flange in record time.  One hour sounds a whole bunch better than all day.  My compliments.

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Reply #37 - 10/12/20 at 06:25:45
 
@dragbikemike thanks for the detailed post. I did purchase a hole cutter with carbide tips from harbor freight. I sanded down and used the wooden plug from the 2x4 clamp to plug the pipe and hold the hole cutter. After an hour of not getting very far, out came the dremel and hand file. It took me most of the day but I managed to get it to fit without butchering it up. I checked for leaks using a flame and it found no leaks.

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Reply #38 - 10/12/20 at 06:47:36
 
It's loud. No doubt about it. I like it. But it won't work for my morning commutes so I'll be taking the MAC muffler off and going back to the Yoshimura slip-on. I doubt it will help anyone due to the horrible quality, but I uploaded a video taken from a Samsung phone to my instagram (it was warmed up before I filmed). I haven't been able to ride it yet (still need to purchase a tire), but it sounds faster  Cheesy

@Dave there were a few times while filing and dremeling that I looked up at the computer screen and read the words in all caps, "EXACT FIT" and mumbled a few choice words.

For a clamp, I ran to AuzoZone and picked up a 2" universal clamp. It's ugly, but it works.

It's hard to say without a test ride, but overall I think I'll be happy for the price. I may go ahead and do the exhaust port opening after riding for a bit.


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Reply #39 - 10/12/20 at 16:49:06
 
I hate loud mufflers!

I am going to be working on a way to put a "barrier" inside the perforated core - which will turn the core into a baffle.

I think If I make a round piece of steel that just slips inside.....and on each side of that have a small piece of steel with some bent fingers.  The fingers would be long enough so that when they are straightened they catch on the ID of the tube.  I would weld a nut on one side and a bolt would be on the other side........you could use a ratchet extension to insert the barrier assembly, and when you get it in place begin to tighten the bolt - which will straighten out the fingers and catch the ID of the perforated core.  The fingers will be on both sides and once pushed in place the barrier should stay in place.  The fingers need to be pretty stout - as there is no doubt the assembly will be red hot when you are cruising down the interstate..........anyone that has followed a Savage with a Dyna muffler at night has witnessed the red glow from the interior of the muffler.

If it works - I can make some for you other fellows.
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Reply #40 - 10/12/20 at 17:16:32
 
Dave, I know you are a engineer but, that sounds waaaay too involved.
When the baffle blew out of my Dyna, I took a 9 1/2'' piece of water pipe made a plug for the end and a sleeve to fit the back end of the muffler, then drilled 16 - 13/64'' holes in the sides of it. ( 1/4-20 tap size if it was too many )  
I am happy with the sound, but if you wanted to play around just one bolt holding it in so it would be easy to ''tune''.
I would think the larger the holes dia. should give you  a ''deeper'' sound, and if you get too many holes just cut a new piece of pipe and start over.
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Reply #41 - 10/12/20 at 20:40:02
 
So I opened the box today and it all looks good. Going forward I only bought the system for the black header, so my brand new black Mac Muffler is probably for sale, if anyone has an interset let me know. I now have a selection of mufflers to try on my 2011. The black header and a new black Cobra slash cut with my custom baffle set up are going on my "03".
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Reply #42 - 10/15/20 at 14:37:52
 
Well I guess one temporary way to test my approach - would be to shove some course steel wool in the place I want to block the perforated core.....then pack it tightly into place by using a bar on both sides to squash it in place.

I know it will burn out before very long - but it would allow for a short term test.  When you want the darn thing out.......I suspect a 70mph run for 15-20 minutes would cook it right out of there!
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Reply #43 - 10/15/20 at 15:42:09
 
be careful of what you aim it at when you start it up as it may shoot out at very little prompting.
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Reply #44 - 10/18/20 at 09:26:22
 
verslagen1 wrote on 10/15/20 at 15:42:09:
be careful of what you aim it at when you start it up as it may shoot out at very little prompting.



I will make sure Lily and Deb are not on the receiving end!
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