There is no doubt that I made a comment that initiated his departure.

We were all receptive and willing to help him decide if it would be a good bike for him.  Questions about his size, the vibration, etc. were discussed willingly and without prejudice.  When he began to ask about drilling holes in a muffler on a bike he didn't own yet and likely has never ridden - I began to get a bit uncomfortable.......and then came the question about a headlight grill.  My thought was we were going to spend time answering questions about upgrading turn signals, tail light, foot pegs, brakes, fuel tank, fork oil, windshield, GPS, LED's, seat, forward controls, etc. on a bike he may never own.  (Anyone who was around when Cheapnewb24 was around can relate to how much time we can spend in an attempt to "help" a person without making any progress).

I had only hoped to temper his questions/posts to the relevant "pre-purchase" issues that would help him decide if the Savage was right for him........and making a test ride was likely the next step to see if he even liked the way the bike rode and was comfortable for him.

After 8 years of being on this forum maybe I am getting a bit cranky.  I have made over 15,000 posts - which probably means I have also read 150,000 or more.  I can remember some threads on troubleshooting engine or electrical issues where I have spent an hour or more thinking/taking photos/posting comments in an attempt to resolve the issues.......I really do try to be helpful when a forum member has a difficult problem.  Perhaps I should have just let everyone else answer his questions and not tried to curb his enthusiasm?

I wonder if the Harley Forum guys are being any nicer to him?

 

I tossed him something he may not have received well,, not sure,, If he didnt get it and took it wrong,, Like Dave,, I didnt Intend to chap the guy, and he is apparently a grown man,,
In BAlance, he was well received and well treated and got butthurt and left,,
Someone serious about it wouldnt have just folded like a pissed off five year old..

Well said,.. Zeven...

I belong to a number of groups and forums. I have many different motorcycles including Honda’s, Suzuki, Harley, Triumph and Norton. This is one of the better forums. People here have been friendly and willing to share and help.

It’s too bad if the OP took something personally. Could be he just went on vacation and we all will have egg on our faces when he comes back  

ohiomoto wrote on 08/28/20 at 05:14:47:

Agreed. One of the biggest mistakes motorcyclists make, over and over again, is not encouraging and supporting the enthusiasm and curiosity of potential new riders. We won't be getting more new riders in the saddle if we scare them off.  I'm a highly experienced rider, and I'm interested in this bike as a fun project, but I'm sure there are a lot of new and prospective riders out there, and if they show enough initiative to actually seek out information, we owe it to them to do what we can to foster their enthusiasm. This is particularly true for the younger generation, who doesn't need to put up with a bunch of BS from old timers about how things used to be.  We've got to be better.  

Apologies for the rant, everyone, but this kind of thing happens entirely too often, and the result is that we end up with fewer riders every year.  I'd like to see this hobby/sport/way of life continue into the future, and we can all have a role in making this a more inclusive, and by extension, interesting activity.

He bought a Guzzi V7III. I don't think anyone chased him off.
He had started a thread similar to this one on the Guzzi forum.
The smaller Guzzi is a great bike for a starting rider that one would not out grow.

Here’s what I know.

Without even needing to ask a question, this forum has taught me everything I need to know about owning this bike for the long term.  It eliminated my sense that this was only a beginner bike and that I would need to upgrade at some point in the future to get the most out of riding.  I am now confident that this is the only bike I will ever own.  As a matter of fact, I just bought a second one.  I love the fact that it is simple and easy to work on.

The patience of the experts on this forum is outstanding.  They answer the same questions time and time again without the slightest hint of annoyance or “GO SEARCH THE THREADS”.  I know that whatever issue I may face, I have a place to go for help.

Kudos to you all!