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Reply #15 - 07/21/20 at 12:35:52
 
And the O-ring had stopped any silicone from leaking inwards
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Reply #16 - 07/21/20 at 13:12:36
 
That orange crap is the most awful looking product you could use for this job.  It "screams" I have been inside this engine and put it back together using the most obnoxious product I could find.

And as DragBikeMike stated in post #8.....you put sealer on the sides of the little oil reservoir along the cam....it should not be there.  Look at the head cover, and if there is not a matching surface on the top for the sealer to squeeze between - don't put sealer there.

For silver colored engines it look far more professional if you use a gray sealer......like Yamabond.  For black engines use a black sealer like Suzukibond - both of which are actually made for sealing motorcycle engines.

https://www.amazon.com/Yamalube-Yamabond-4-3-oz/dp/B00545V1ZE

https://www.partsfish.com/product/20518/suzuki-bond-1207b-part-99104-31140

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Reply #17 - 07/21/20 at 13:30:06
 
I have a question. Does everybody put sealer around the plug a the end of the camshaft? I would be inclined to leave it dry. Undecided

By the way, in the distant past I used Yamabond with great success. Love that stuff.
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Reply #18 - 07/21/20 at 13:31:23
 
norm92de wrote on 07/21/20 at 13:30:06:
I have a question. Does everybody put sealer around the plug a the end of the camshaft? I would be inclined to leave it dry. Undecided


I put a very small amount - just a tiny thin smear.
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Reply #19 - 07/21/20 at 13:35:09
 
If the plug is new I’ll install it dry , if it’s used it gets a small amount 3bond
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Reply #20 - 07/21/20 at 13:37:30
 
Thanks, Gentlemen.
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Reply #21 - 07/21/20 at 14:34:00
 
3bond is same as Yamabond ! What I’ve been using for the last 45 years with great success. I really like it and it’s grey , doesn’t look like you used anything in the tool box. Not pickin on anyone , I’m just used to doin it that way for years. I’m totally in my element when I’m building Thumpers , big or small. I find it very rewarding riding what I build !
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Reply #22 - 07/21/20 at 21:27:42
 
Dave wrote on 07/21/20 at 13:12:36:
That orange crap is the most awful looking product you could use for this job.  It "screams" I have been inside this engine and put it back together using the most obnoxious product I could find.

And as DragBikeMike stated in post #8.....you put sealer on the sides of the little oil reservoir along the cam....it should not be there.  Look at the head cover, and if there is not a matching surface on the top for the sealer to squeeze between - don't put sealer there.

For silver colored engines it look far more professional if you use a gray sealer......like Yamabond.  For black engines use a black sealer like Suzukibond - both of which are actually made for sealing motorcycle engines.

https://www.amazon.com/Yamalube-Yamabond-4-3-oz/dp/B00545V1ZE

https://www.partsfish.com/product/20518/suzuki-bond-1207b-part-99104-31140



Is Yamabond a discontinued product? The amazon-page says: "Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock" and I am not sure it is possible to get it in Sweden.

I use what I can source here so red silicone motor gasket is in my opinion better than none at all.
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Reply #23 - 07/21/20 at 22:25:24
 
3M is company name , 3 Bond is the product name. Amazon or Ebay
Think it comes in black too
Another good silicone is ultra grey & ultra black
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Reply #24 - 08/01/20 at 11:54:17
 
Today I fiddled around with a pneumatic dispenser I bought of ebay. I wanted to see if it was usable to dispense gasket silicone and it actually was. I had great fun and learned something in the process Smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HDekj9Z4og

I use an arduino to controll a pneumatic valve that pushes the gasket silicone out of the syringe. The first test I just let the arduino to open and close with a set time, but once I got that to work I used a couple of pieces of copper tape so I could manually activate the dispensing system with the tip of my finger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0F9M3eWXeI
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Reply #25 - 08/02/20 at 12:38:59
 
That is about the coolest thing I ever did see.  I had to google "arduino" to figure out what that is.  This contraption is way above my pay grade.  You're a genius.  Looks like you have total control over the sealant application.

Dave uses a syringe.  I bet he will love this thing.

Really nice job.  Thanks for sharing.  The YouTube vids are killer good. Smiley
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Reply #26 - 08/02/20 at 14:43:34
 
That sure does look like a marvelous way to apply sealant.

I'd be willing to bet it would be perfect for our head cover. No seeping out and perfectly distributed
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Reply #27 - 08/03/20 at 00:15:37
 
Thank you for your kind words Smiley

It doesn't have to be as fancy as mine with a microcontroller. Basically all you need is 12V pneumatic valve, some kind of switch and a pneumatic glue dispenser

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5CC-Syringe-SMT-SMD-PCB-Solder-Paste-Adhesive-Glue-L...

I didn't want to wait two months so I bought mine from the UK but there must be US sellers as well. 1 bar of air pressure and a 18 gauge tip seem to work well for my red stuff but you may want to try different sizes of tips.
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Reply #28 - 08/03/20 at 04:21:10
 
Yep - Cool!

I use plastic syringes with a plunger I have to squeeze manually.

I put down a bead just a bit smaller than a pencil lead.  You want enough sealer so that a tiny bit squeezes out both sides  and provides even coverage across the mating surface.  The sealer that oozes out doesn't do any actual sealing - it is more of a telltale that you have used an adequate amount of sealant.

I found that the sealant doesn't stick to the smooth plastic of the syringe - so after about a week you pull on the plunger and the PVC pops right out of the syringe!

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Reply #29 - 08/05/20 at 06:08:06
 
Put the valve head back today after applying new gasket silicone. The syringe dispenser worked as I expected and now I just hope I haven't obstructed any intended oil flow anywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9P4FqHVWJM
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