Mark's parodying his own greatest hits- you don't see what you see, you don't hear what you hear.  You don't know what you know.   Crimes are not crimes.

Witness after witness has confirmed what was clearly a crime from the outset.  Mark is either profoundly ignorant or fundamentally dishonest.  
There's really no "or"- the dude doesn't care for the truth, only sides.

"Please.....waste a few minutes looking for one of those 'obvious lies.....'"

As predicted, you supply lies with a frequency that doesn't require excavation.

Careful Eegore, TT will get jealous and I'm not up for a lover's triangle fight.....!

I know exactly who Donald Trump is. I have no illusions about him. Trump is egotistical, monomaniac, prone to quick shifts on policy based on singular inputs and probably a very difficult person to work for. I've worked for two people exactly like this. While profitable for me, I left both.  As I've always said a million times;  between Trump and Obama, I'd rather have Obama for a neighbor.

But..... Trump as President is a million times more preferable than Hilary as President and maybe half a million times more preferable than Elizabeth Warren.

Serowbot wrote on 11/06/19 at 08:35:52:


I don't believe he has broken the emoluments clause. Sorry but that clause is there to prevent someone from getting rich off the office. Now, we've let Presidents make millions after they've left office and that's the way it is. But Trump wanted that meeting at Doral for reasons other than money.
And no, he did not blackmail Ukraine.

The difference is you say that about Trump right before or after you call him Hitler. You're not based in reality.

Okay.... I get it now. Mavi the Drive By doesn't understand the definition of a lie. He's confused by the difference between formulating a personal  opinion based upon available information and a statement of pure fact.

Would you like me to explain it to you Mavi?

Let's use one of your statements for example.
In Mark's world, all that is required to dismiss naked criminal activity is an improbable story

Now then, I know that to be 100% untrue because I'm the topic of the statement. However, is Mavi lying when he says this even though I know it to be false? No, of course not. Why? Because it's a personal  opinion that Mavi has formed based upon his interpretation of available information.

So, a good definition of a lie is; purposely relaying (in some cases withholding) information that is known by that person to be untrue for selfish intentions. There are 3 facets to lying. You have to 1) either pass along false info or withhold it 2) you have to know the info is false (or could be true but you withhold it) and 3) you do this for selfish gain.

So, let's run with that.

If I hear something I assume to be true and retell it, am I lying? No. Foolish for not checking perhaps, but not lying.

If I just lost money in a vending machine and I see someone else about to do the same yet I say nothing, am I lying? I'd have to say, yes. That's a tough one, it opens all sorts of doors we'd rather leave closed.  

If someone asked me if I did something that would cast me in an unfavorable light and I answered untruthfully in order to avoid that, am I lying. Yes, absolutely. That's the classic example of lying.

So Mavi, let's see if you paid attention and get a gold star today.
Donald Trump is a far better President than Barrack Obama.
True? False? Opinion?

WebsterMark wrote on 11/06/19 at 07:57:58:


Sorry to break this to you (well, not really), but you and people like you forgiving trump for breaking the law doesn't mean a thing.

What he did was unlawful.  There is no grey area.  There was a quid pro quo with Ukraine.  The evidence is growing by the day.  The president may think that's OK, but it isn't.

Further, he is indeed breaking the emoluments clause consistently as he directs his guests and his administration to his properties.  This last attempt to get the G7 was yet another glaring example.

How anyone can't see this is beyond me.

So, the only thing for his apologists to do is say - "I forgive him no matter what".  Because when a democrat gets in office in 2021, the entire republican party will be muted in giving much of anything in the way of criticism.  They will have no leg to stand on.  trump has taken the office of president to the toilet and wiped his a$$ with the Constitution.

The republican party is complicit.  They will pay at the ballot box next year.  Virginia is only the beginning.

Mavigogun wrote on 11/06/19 at 11:23:08:


Motive is more than relevant for baring false witness, it's a requirement. Knowledge that you are perpetrating a falsehood is likewise a necessary element. Don't you understand this?

Come on Web,... you know spending $110,000,000 taxpayer dollars at Trump resorts while in office is breaking the Emoluments Clause...
So is Saudi's renting multiple Trump hotel rooms and never using them.
So was Pence traveling across the country daily to stay a that Scottish Trump golf course.
...and the 100's of military plane layovers.
So was having the G7 at Doral...
You know this.... to deny it is to lie...