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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #15 - 08/04/19 at 13:30:04
 
It is SO clear, with 3,200 deaths a day.
Something just HAS to be done.

You know, ANYBODY, that is absolutely ANYBODY,
can buy a Car or Truck or MC.
No Age limit, No Citizen limit, No mental acuity check,
Nothing Nada, ANYBODY, can buy a Car/Truck/Mis.

The paltry ‘requirements’ for driving a Car/etc on public property, are JUST NOT ENOUGH.

First, EVERYBODY that drives something Needs to have the device that they blow into, to start that unit.
Those are already made, used, perfected, so would be no problem to make, EVERYONE, that drives do that.

Next, Register ALL Cars/Trucks/Etc. Really Register them, Keep a data base of Every MV, and Every name attached to it, regardless of where, or how it is driven/kept/stored/used.

Next, make a law that ANYONE, who buys a MV, HAS to be 21 years Old, and a US Citizen.
And Has to have a Valid Driving License, which shall be renewed every year, by taking a Written/Driving/Mental Acuity/Eye/Ear tests.
As well as having a valid, Insurance certificate, which is paid in full for at least 6 months.
Then 2 weeks before it lapses, a notice is sent out to that person, because his/her name address is on record, that they must re-new, and pay for, that insurance policy for another 6 months.
If they don’t, that MV is taken away.

As well as the above requirements.
A person buying a MV Must submit a affidavit, from a licensed psychologist that they are not mentally deranged.
Or are a member of a, ‘extreme’ political group.
Determination to be made by a group of, ‘concerned’ citizens.

Three Thousand two hundred Plus,
Of  DEATHS a DAY,
just HAS TO BE STOPPED.

(NOTE: Just for the UL/FDS’s,  it is estimated, 260 Million Cars/Trucks/Etc in America, and 393 Million Guns, (NOT owned by the Military)
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #16 - 08/04/19 at 13:49:16
 
Global stats...  Domestic sarcasm...
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #17 - 08/04/19 at 13:55:40
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/04/19 at 07:58:22:
Fukc the gun nuts.

Gee I,
(Self admitted several times)
am A  ‘Gun Nut’.

But, again, YOU, can do whatever,
YOU, want to.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #18 - 08/04/19 at 14:02:33
 
pg wrote on 08/04/19 at 12:43:55:
thumperclone wrote on 08/04/19 at 12:37:41:
white nationalist terrorists are empowered by trumps nexus of hate
any who support him are adding fuel to the fire   



Yeah, yeah, get a new line.  The guy from El Paso also wanted national healthcare and universal basic income.  The guy in Ohio hated religion and worshiped Satan.

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Reply #19 - 08/04/19 at 17:13:25
 
thumperclone wrote on 08/04/19 at 14:02:33:
pg wrote on 08/04/19 at 12:43:55:
thumperclone wrote on 08/04/19 at 12:37:41:
white nationalist terrorists are empowered by trumps nexus of hate
any who support him are adding fuel to the fire   



Yeah, yeah, get a new line.  The guy from El Paso also wanted national healthcare and universal basic income.  The guy in Ohio hated religion and worshiped Satan.

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It appears the guy in EP was not a registered voter and a white supremacist who wanted universal healthcare for all & universal basic income.  That is from his manifesto.

The guy in Ohio was a registered democrat and satan worshiper.

If you do a few searches you will likely find the same info.

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Reply #20 - 08/05/19 at 08:20:50
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/04/19 at 13:55:40:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/04/19 at 07:58:22:
Fukc the gun nuts.

Gee I,
(Self admitted several times)
am A  ‘Gun Nut’.

But, again, YOU, can do whatever,
YOU, want to.



I think the gun nut ideology is fukced up.  Are you going to sit there and say that you don't think that my idology is fukced up from your perspective?

No, you're not.

I can tell you this - my ideology doesn't get people killed.
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #21 - 08/05/19 at 08:23:39
 
, you're not.

I can tell you this - my ideology doesn't get people killed.

History proves you don't know what you are talking about.
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #22 - 08/05/19 at 08:32:22
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/05/19 at 08:23:39:
, you're not.

I can tell you this - my ideology doesn't get people killed.

History proves you don't know what you are talking about.



Really?  How so?  Elaborate, jog.
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #23 - 08/05/19 at 10:41:01
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/05/19 at 08:23:39:
I can tell you this - my ideology doesn't get people killed.

9 dead and 27 injured in 32 seconds...

Good guys with guns means bad guys have access to guns.
The wild wild west was never this wild...

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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #24 - 08/05/19 at 13:14:46
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/04/19 at 13:49:16:
Global stats...  Domestic sarcasm...

Are you staying inside, during the, "Excessive Heat Warning" ?

MV's in the USA:263,765,695
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita

Number of Deaths per DAY by MV's in the USA: 3,287 deaths a day.
https://www.asirt.org/safe-travel/road-safety-facts/

Number of guns, (Not including the military) in the USA: 393,347,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_ownership

Don't know what you are referring to when you say:
"Global stats."
As the stats listed on:http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1564930702/15#15
Are numbers in the USA.

Also still waiting for a explanation of how,
Punishing everyone that owns/will own/use/etc a firearm,
will stop a total nut case from using one.

Oh, we need BIG TIME, restrictions/regulations,
on the purchase of the 20lb gas cylinder, sold at c-stores, and mart-marts.
Time to have a buyer fill out a extensive 6 page form, a background check, and a waiting period, before they can buy one.
Just running out, 1/2 way through cooking on the grill is NOT a reason.



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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #25 - 08/05/19 at 13:58:57
 
3,200 deaths per day... is a world wide stat.
And you are relating global car deaths to domestic gun deaths.
Cars get us to work.  Guns kill things.

Transportation is a necessary part of a functioning society.
Even so...
Cars are licensed, registered, inspected, insured, require a license to operate, your driving is monitored by police, speed is regulated, direction of travel, signaling intention, safety equipment.  Your license can be revoked or suspended, you can be fined or jailed, the vehicle can be impounded.

We're discussing US shootings and gun law.
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Reply #26 - 08/05/19 at 15:03:15
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/05/19 at 13:58:57:
 Cars are licensed, registered, inspected, insured, require a license to operate, your driving is monitored by police, speed is regulated, direction of travel, signaling intention, safety equipment.  Your license can be revoked or suspended, you can be fined or jailed, the vehicle can be impounded.

Every one of those, one could put the word, 'Sometimes' in front of.

The absolute Fact Is:
ANYBODY, that is absolutely ANYBODY,
can buy a Car or Truck or MC.
No Age limit, No Citizen limit, No License requirement. No mental acuity check,
Nothing Nada, ANYBODY, can buy a Car/Truck/Mis.

Their MUST be more and better regulations !

Transportation is a necessary part of a functioning society.

Well of course.
No one is stating you cannot walk, or use a bicycle, or a horse and buggy.
After all no cars/etc were around during the writing of the Constitution.
Use what they used at that time.
It is perfectly all Right !

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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #27 - 08/05/19 at 15:16:06
 

Without cars we would fall back to an agricultural society.

Without guns,... we wouldn't get shot so much.
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Reply #28 - 08/05/19 at 20:07:47
 

Without cars we would fall back to an agricultural society.

Without guns,... we wouldn't get shot so much.



 This is very much so the situation.
 
 Too many people attempt to equate on a 1 to 1 ratio firearm usage to phone, or vehicle usage, and also equate fatality per minute ratio.

 Once pro-gun stops comparing cars and phones to guns they will make enough progress to present a compelling argument that is actually applicable to the US Constitution.
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Re: At Least 9 Dead In Dayton
Reply #29 - 08/06/19 at 07:33:38
 
Eegore wrote on 08/05/19 at 20:07:47:

Without cars we would fall back to an agricultural society.

Without guns,... we wouldn't get shot so much.



 This is very much so the situation.
 
 Too many people attempt to equate on a 1 to 1 ratio firearm usage to phone, or vehicle usage, and also equate fatality per minute ratio.

 Once pro-gun stops comparing cars and phones to guns they will make enough progress to present a compelling argument that is actually applicable to the US Constitution.


I agree with you for the most part, not many people use their car to kill people purposely... but they do in rare occasions.

So, maybe we should draw parallels where they exist.  We don't allow teenagers to drive trucks.  Maybe they shouldn't have access to military rounds either.
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