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Re: Is it normal for the rear wheel to be off cent
Reply #30 - 01/15/20 at 12:27:05
 
Looking at the photo more carefully, is the rear pulley tweaked? Does it have a left-to-right cant from top to bottom?

Is this a salvage bike? Is this bike new to you?
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Reply #31 - 01/16/20 at 01:05:52
 
The bike is new to me (got it last winter and have driven it three times so far).

This is my first ever motorcycle and it looks like the previous owners haven't taken very good care of it.

The horns you speak of I assume are the frame ends that normally sits under the seat. The axle spacers have been checked and they are installed correctly. I will try my best to provide a better picture with a proper center line. The rear pulley is EXTREMELY worn down so I think I have to replace it asap so I wont end up destroying the new belt that the last owner installed just before he sold it to me.
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Re: Is it normal for the rear wheel to be off cent
Reply #32 - 01/16/20 at 07:24:51
 
BTW, I have used pulleys.  Some fairly new.
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Reply #33 - 01/16/20 at 08:04:17
 
I wonder if the rubber vibration dampers in the pulley hub are warn/damaged. That would explain the strange angle.

Regarding the very first post in the thread, the upper sub frame being squed/tweaked/bent to the right would cause the groove to be cut into the tire. There appears to be some serious damage to this part of the frame. If it was my bike, I'd remove the fender assembly and pull some string from point-to-point to see where the frame is bent and how it can be straightened.
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Reply #34 - 01/16/20 at 09:19:18
 
I'd pull the front pulley cover and put a good piece of cord under the belt, roll forward until it's at half way and pull it back to the rear pulley. When it's laying flat on the front pulley it should be really, really close to flat across the rear pulley. If the belt is tight you might see the rear of the pulley slightly out.

Once you've got the wheel situated correctly in that direction, you can get the bike standing up straight and see if the rear wheel is also vertical.
If not, why not?
If it is
Then check fender clearance on both sides.
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Re: Is it normal for the rear wheel to be off cent
Reply #35 - 01/16/20 at 14:09:14
 
I would kick the right side of the fender as hard as I can, sort out the rear pulley and call it a day.  Wink
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Reply #36 - 01/17/20 at 00:01:03
 
Thank you all for helping me out. The pulley currently mounted to the rear wheel is worn but I have a spare tire with a pulley that looks fresh so I will mount that together with a new tire when I have sorted out whats wrong with it as it is right now.

Is it possible that this bike has been dropped on the side? Can that cause these kind of issues?

I will try and remove the rear fender and inspect it as well as snap some new pictures of the bike and frame.

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I'd pull the front pulley cover and put a good piece of cord under the belt, roll forward until it's at half way and pull it back to the rear pulley. When it's laying flat on the front pulley it should be really, really close to flat across the rear pulley. If the belt is tight you might see the rear of the pulley slightly out.


I don't fully understand. Could you explain it in very simple terms for me?
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Reply #37 - 01/17/20 at 06:57:39
 
kamelryttarn wrote on 01/17/20 at 00:01:03:
Is it possible that this bike has been dropped on the side? Can that cause these kind of issues?


This appears to be a dropped or wrecked bike.
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Reply #38 - 01/17/20 at 09:47:38
 
Get a good piece of string
Lay one end under the belt
On the front pulley
Move the belt to carry the string to the front of the pulley
Work string through to rear of bike
Pull tight, to make string straight
Move the end toward and away from rear pulley, Find where the string lays across the front pulley AND IS STRAIGHT.
That really should be very, very close to your rear pulley.

If not, gotta find out why.
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Reply #39 - 01/19/20 at 23:49:50
 
I started to remove the rear tire this weekend. I tried to follow my Clymer manual but it's not always applicable to my bike.

Are the bolts that sits in the rear swing arm and connects to the shock absorbers supposed to be removable? On the left side I managed to move it a little bit but the right side is as stuck as if it was welded to the frame. I tried with some penetrating oil and en electric heat gun but it made no difference.
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Reply #40 - 01/19/20 at 23:50:26
 
I also noticed quite a bit of rust where the swing arm connects to the frame and on the left side the cap that is supposed to protect the mount bolt of the swing arm was missing and when I got the rear tire out and managed to dis-engage both shock absorbers it felt like the bearings to the swing arm were filled with sand and gravel so I think I need to remove the swing arm and inspect and probably replace the needle bearings.

Does anyone know the dimensions of the needle bearings in case I can fins SKF bearings with the same dimensions as the original since it's much easier for me in Sweden to get SKF bearing than original Suzuki parts.
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Re: Is it normal for the rear wheel to be off cent
Reply #41 - 01/20/20 at 07:29:57
 
kamelryttarn wrote on 01/19/20 at 23:49:50:
I started to remove the rear tire this weekend. I tried to follow my Clymer manual but it's not always applicable to my bike.

Are the bolts that sits in the rear swing arm and connects to the shock absorbers supposed to be removable? On the left side I managed to move it a little bit but the right side is as stuck as if it was welded to the frame. I tried with some penetrating oil and en electric heat gun but it made no difference.

Yes, they both come out.
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Re: Is it normal for the rear wheel to be off cent
Reply #42 - 01/20/20 at 23:01:48
 
I removed the swing arm yesterday. I know pretty much nothing when it comes to mechanics but I'm fairly certain it's not supposed to look like this.
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Re: Is it normal for the rear wheel to be off cent
Reply #43 - 01/20/20 at 23:02:57
 
What am I looking at here. Is it the bearing or a bushing? I don't fully understand the image in the Clymer manual
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Reply #44 - 01/20/20 at 23:04:32
 
Here is another picture
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