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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	How awful, heartbreaking, 7 bikers dead. 06/22/19 at 11:04:52 You just never know when its over...... I pray for all involved. New Hampshire highway collision leaves 7 motorcyclists dead, 3 injured https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-hampshire-highway-collision-7-motorcyclists-de...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: How awful, heartbreaking, 7 bikers dead. Reply #1 - 06/22/19 at 12:53:38 That's just gutwrenching..
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Reply #2 - 06/22/19 at 18:33:53

Want to get away with murder ? This is how it usually works : Get in your car and kill someone on a motorcycle. You will get a ticket that says , Failure to Yield. It may cost you $80.00 Not bad. The cost of a lawyer may be extra. You will not spend one day in jail. This happens over and over. The court system sees you as a dog that had no business to be on the road. This has been going on for years. Sorry for my rant. I'm angry. Angry

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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5730 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: How awful, heartbreaking, 7 bikers dead. Reply #3 - 06/22/19 at 22:50:44 DUI suspect ! So why is the truck Wrecked on the wrong side of the road ?
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Reply #4 - 06/23/19 at 03:42:08

MMRanch wrote on 06/22/19 at 22:50:44:

DUI suspect !

So why is the truck Wrecked on the wrong side of the road ?

That "DUI SUSPECT" in the news report is a link to another story......not this motorcycle crash. The most recent articles state the investigation is still ongoing and it is a complex case - so they are not commenting on why this happened yet.

You would think he would have been able to see the group of large Harelys.....somebody in the group usually has really bright headlights.

Perhaps it was distracted driving by the truck driver and he drifted left of center.

Maybe one of the bikes had drifted over the centerline and started the crash.......we have all seen motorcycle drift over the centerline when the corner is tighter than they expected.

This is a tragic crash........we are all vulnerable to anyone that crosses our path and crashes into us - on our motorcycles, in our cars, or while walking!

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Reply #5 - 06/23/19 at 19:27:28

I’ve been trying to watch for info updates on what exactly happened but nothing yet. What an awful thing to happen. There are a lot of hurting people with a lot more families hurting as well and they need to be covered in prayer. Things like this tragedy cause self evaluation. Am I living my life the way God desires of me.

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Reply #7 - 06/24/19 at 03:56:13

Ruttly wrote on 06/23/19 at 21:01:00:

God has no problems with bikers. Or motorcyclists. Or motorcycles. Did the drunk that caused the crash survive ?

There is no report yet the driver had been drinking. He was not charged and was allowed to go home. If the Police had found him drunk....I believe he would have been locked up.

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Reply #8 - 06/24/19 at 05:58:42

Dave wrote on 06/24/19 at 03:56:13:

Ruttly wrote on 06/23/19 at 21:01:00:

God has no problems with bikers. Or motorcyclists. Or motorcycles. Did the drunk that caused the crash survive ?

There is no report yet the driver had been drinking. He was not charged and was allowed to go home. If the Police had found him drunk....I believe he would have been locked up.

He (truck river) was only 23 years old, driving for this hauling company.

That is a memory that will last forever.

The guys were ex-marines.

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Reply #9 - 06/24/19 at 06:15:48

hotrod wrote on 06/22/19 at 18:33:53:

Want to get away with murder ? This is how it usually works : Get in your car and kill someone on a motorcycle. You will get a ticket that says , Failure to Yield. It may cost you $80.00 Not bad. The cost of a lawyer may be extra. You will not spend one day in jail. This happens over and over. The court system sees you as a dog that had no business to be on the road. This has been going on for years. Sorry for my rant. I'm angry. Angry

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That's not fair. I killed a man in an accident when the front tire on a larger cab-over truck I was driving blew out and I couldn't keep the truck on the road. The other driver was in an S10 and didn't have a chance. I hit him head-on. The truck I was driving literally pushed his truck off the road before it flipped end over end. I found myself hanging upside down from the seatbelt when it finally came to rest. I somehow crawled away with just a broken leg, but I saw the lifeless driver still in his little truck. I was transported to the hospital and was not charged for the accident. I have to live with the sight of a dead man in my head.

When I think about it, it's like reliving a bad dream. I can't imagine what everyone involved must be going through. It looked like a war scene. I'm sure the driver of that pickup truck didn't set out to kill anyone on the road that day. He may have done something negligent or maybe it was something out of his control, we don't know.

Throwing "murder" at that person without knowing what caused the accident is stupid. Sorry, end rant.

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sjaskow - FSO Senior Member Offline Posts: 364 Frozen Tundra of MN Gender:	Re: How awful, heartbreaking, 7 bikers dead. Reply #10 - 06/24/19 at 10:39:15 I just read an article: https://www.foxnews.com/us/pickup-truck-driver-arrested-following-new-hampshi... that says he was charged with "seven counts of negligent homicide". I'm guessing there's more this that was put out so far.
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Re: How awful, heartbreaking, 7 bikers dead.
Reply #11 - 06/24/19 at 11:19:40

ohiomoto wrote on 06/24/19 at 06:15:48:

hotrod wrote on 06/22/19 at 18:33:53:

Want to get away with murder ? This is how it usually works : Get in your car and kill someone on a motorcycle. You will get a ticket that says , Failure to Yield. It may cost you $80.00 Not bad. The cost of a lawyer may be extra. You will not spend one day in jail. This happens over and over. The court system sees you as a dog that had no business to be on the road. This has been going on for years. Sorry for my rant. I'm angry. Angry

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That's not fair. I killed a man in an accident when the front tire on a larger cab-over truck I was driving blew out and I couldn't keep the truck on the road. The other driver was in an S10 and didn't have a chance. I hit him head-on. The truck I was driving literally pushed his truck off the road before it flipped end over end. I found myself hanging upside down from the seatbelt when it finally came to rest. I somehow crawled away with just a broken leg, but I saw the lifeless driver still in his little truck. I was transported to the hospital and was not charged for the accident. I have to live with the sight of a dead man in my head.

When I think about it, it's like reliving a bad dream. I can't imagine what everyone involved must be going through. It looked like a war scene. I'm sure the driver of that pickup truck didn't set out to kill anyone on the road that day. He may have done something negligent or maybe it was something out of his control, we don't know.

Throwing "murder" at that person without knowing what caused the accident is stupid. Sorry, end rant.

I'm sorry for your painful memory.
Imagine your anguish had you, and not something beyond your control, caused the crash.
I lost a left front on a Mack. On a two lane, no power steering, immediate left turn, the wheel spun so fast and my left arm got in it. Thought sure it was gonna break. In the seconds it took to realize what had just happened and asses the situation I saw I was about to put my seat into a telephone pole, I got stood up and wrestled the wheel enough to just miss the pole.
The tire exploding was so loud, the concussion shook my guts and the shower of fiberglass and the tread blowing through the fender , all just froze me for a second, but it wouldn't have mattered if I had known exactly what was going to happen and been holding the wheel with everything I had. The immediate and violent power of that truck wanting to turn left would have easily overpowered me.
And I have many times replayed that moment, knowing that my path would Not have been changed, no matter who or what I saw coming.
Thank God it wasn't your fault.

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Reply #12 - 06/24/19 at 11:22:56

ohiomoto ; Before the 7 bikers dead article came out, I would have said just what I said. Perhaps I should have used the term, "Negligent Homicide". Your situation is completely different, and was absolutely a accident. Since this is a motorcycle forum I was speaking of the relationship between cars and motorcycles in accidents. Many are killed when a car makes a left turn in front of the motorcycle. He didn't see you ? People in cars kill people on motorcycles every day, and many times leave the person on the side of the road to die. Did you read some of the posts on Yahoo ? " I wish he killed more of them ". "They asked for it". "Murdercycles'. " I try to run bikers off the road" Also, a jury looks at your case differently if you are a motorcyclist You are at a disadvantage. It seems like in a court of law your life has less value. Of course , there are exceptions to everything. From now on I'll use the term Negligent Homicide. Your situation was a true nightmare and accident.

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: How awful, heartbreaking, 7 bikers dead. Reply #13 - 06/24/19 at 16:52:19 The driver was arrested for a unrelated issue.
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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2679 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: How awful, heartbreaking, 7 bikers dead. Reply #14 - 06/24/19 at 18:16:39 https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/06/24/five-things-about-horrific-crash...
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