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What has caused this brake res problem?
06/16/19 at 20:34:31

Just getting around to replacing the front brakes and fluid and I discovered this when I opened the brake reservoir and I am wondering what has happened here. The photo is overexposed otherwise it would not be possible to see the black seal.

It appears to be mashed in, and I don't see how this can occur. Or does this indicate that somehow the fluid has evaporated a bit and sucked down the diaphragm.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: What has caused this brake res problem? Reply #1 - 06/16/19 at 21:13:41 situation normal, as fluid is sucked down due to pad wear, the seal goes with it. this prevents exposing the fluid to the air. pull the seal out, replace fluid.
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Re: What has caused this brake res problem?
Reply #2 - 06/16/19 at 23:28:53

Ok thanks Verslagen1

I took the brake off to give it a clean, the cylinder came out a fair way as I pumped the brakes a bit before realising, but I was able to push it back in with no problems using a c clamp and old pad.

Everything is back together but I'm having a bit of a brake bleeding issue and I'm wondering if the piston coming out a bit has caused a problem.

I have a one way valve for bleeding however I don't appear to be able to get anything to pump through. Whether I used the valve or the open and shut method on the bleeder valve, I'm not able to get the fluid to begin pumping out of the master cylinder.

Is there some trick that I have missed here?

EDIT: solved. Not sure what happened but when I went back to it it started pumping through.

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Re: What has caused this brake res problem?
Reply #3 - 06/17/19 at 07:04:54

I not sure why, but the 1 way bleeder valves don't work with the savage.
Perhaps their spring pressure is higher than the master.

Anywho, if the master is drained completely, you'll have a hard time getting it started again... unless you go away, have a beer and let gravity do the work for you, which it will thank you very much.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28682 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: What has caused this brake res problem? Reply #4 - 06/17/19 at 08:20:42 verslagen1 wrote on 06/17/19 at 07:04:54: Anywho, if the master is drained completely, you'll have a hard time getting it started again... unless you go away, have a beer and let gravity do the work for you, which it will thank you very much. I love problems where the solution is go away and have a beer...
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Re: What has caused this brake res problem?
Reply #5 - 06/17/19 at 09:39:18

Serowbot wrote on 06/17/19 at 08:20:42:

verslagen1 wrote on 06/17/19 at 07:04:54:

Anywho, if the master is drained completely, you'll have a hard time getting it started again... unless you go away, have a beer and let gravity do the work for you, which it will thank you very much.

I love problems where the solution is go away and have a beer... Grin

Don't Bogart that solution my friend... let's all go away and have a beer... after a ride... icing on a cake. Smiley

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Re: What has caused this brake res problem?
Reply #6 - 06/17/19 at 10:02:53

verslagen1 wrote on 06/17/19 at 09:39:18:

Serowbot wrote on 06/17/19 at 08:20:42:

verslagen1 wrote on 06/17/19 at 07:04:54:

Anywho, if the master is drained completely, you'll have a hard time getting it started again... unless you go away, have a beer and let gravity do the work for you, which it will thank you very much.

I love problems where the solution is go away and have a beer... Grin

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Don't Bogart that solution my friend... let's all go away and have a beer... after a ride... icing on a cake. Smiley

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(Tapping the caliper and brake line sometimes help expedite that.)

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GOF Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 216 Buffalo, NY	Re: What has caused this brake res problem? Reply #7 - 06/17/19 at 13:51:45 Sitting here drinking a beer, reading this, and thinking "Now this is my kinda solution!"
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: What has caused this brake res problem? Reply #8 - 06/17/19 at 14:27:50 Maybe the source of the last solution, sitting, beer in glass, bubbles rising... tapping.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: What has caused this brake res problem? Reply #9 - 06/17/19 at 23:15:21 unless you go away, have a beer and let gravity do the work for you, which it will thank you very much. Gravity is able to bring other problems to a conclusion. If the parachute doesn't open, just wait a while.. Problem solved.
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Re: What has caused this brake res problem?
Reply #10 - 06/18/19 at 06:58:56

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/17/19 at 23:15:21:

unless you go away, have a beer and let gravity do the work for you, which it will thank you very much.

Gravity is able to bring other problems to a conclusion.
If the parachute doesn't open, just wait a while..
Problem solved.

You shoulda stopped and had a beer.

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Re: What has caused this brake res problem?
Reply #11 - 06/18/19 at 22:50:58

ah ha, okie dokie that explains it then. When I came back and it worked I did use the one way valve, I couldn't believe how easy it was all he bubbles were gone almost instantly. I used this $5 one from feebay

verslagen1 wrote on 06/17/19 at 07:04:54:

I not sure why, but the 1 way bleeder valves don't work with the savage.
Perhaps their spring pressure is higher than the master.

Anyhoo, if the master is drained completely, you'll have a hard time getting it started again... unless you go away, have a beer and let gravity do the work for you, which it will thank you very much.

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