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05/22/19 at 11:43:33
 
Trump’s Golf Costs: $102 Million And Counting, With Taxpayers Picking Up The Tab

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Donald Trump’s golf habit has already cost taxpayers at least $102 million in extra travel and security expenses, and next month will achieve a new milestone: a seven-figure presidential visit to another country so he can play at his own course.

U.S. taxpayers have spent $81 million for the president’s two dozen trips to Florida, according to a HuffPost analysis. They spent $17 million for his 15 trips to New Jersey, another $1 million so he could visit his resort in Los Angeles and at least $3 million for his two days in Scotland last summer ― $1.3 million of which went just for rental cars for the massive entourage that accompanies a president abroad.

And, notwithstanding Trump’s campaign promise that if elected he would not play golf at all, the White House has done preliminary work for Trump’s visit to his resort on the west coast of Ireland next month, according to Irish media and government sources, even though no official meeting with Irish leaders is planned in the capital, Dublin.

Late Tuesday afternoon, the White House announced that Trump would meet with Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar in Shannon, just 30 miles by air from Trump’s golf resort in Doonbeg. It will be the first time Trump will visit a foreign country — with the staggering footprint of personnel and equipment that entails — for the main purpose of playing golf, though an official purpose was layered on after the fact.

“It’s obviously an incredible waste of money,” said Robert Weissman, president of the group Public Citizen. He then quipped: “Of course, the more time he spends golfing, the less time he spends governing, the better.”

The $102 million total to date spent on Trump’s presidential golfing represents 255 times the annual presidential salary he volunteered not to take. It is more than three times the cost of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation that Trump continually complains about. It would fund for six years the Special Olympics program that Trump’s proposed budget had originally cut to save money.

While Republicans and Trump himself frequently criticized former President Barack Obama for his golf outings, Trump has spent more than twice as many days on the links, to date, as Obama did at the same point in his first term. And because Trump has insisted on dozens of trips to New Jersey and Florida to play at his resorts there, taxpayers are spending more than three times as much as they did for golf by the same point in Obama’s term.

The White House did not respond to numerous queries regarding this story. North Carolina Republican congressman Mark Meadows, a close Trump ally, dismissed the $102 million figure as insignificant.

“There’s a lot more important things to worry about than the rounding errors that we sometimes have on these things,” he said Tuesday.

Just as troubling as the amount Trump has spent so far on golf trips is the fact that his visits have been to his own properties — for-profit businesses that put money in his own pocket and that Trump routinely praises during his visits.

During his trip to Scotland last year, for example, Trump wrote: “I have arrived in Scotland and will be at Trump Turnberry for two days of meetings, calls and hopefully, some golf - my primary form of exercise! The weather is beautiful, and this place is incredible!”

“His top priority with these trips is not the business of the American people, it’s the business of the Trump Organization,” said Jordan Libowitz of the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. “The American presidency has become another tool to advertise his golf properties.”

The vast majority of Trump’s golf costs result from his insistence on playing at his Florida courses in West Palm Beach and Jupiter, where he has spent 61 days while staying at his resort in the nearby town of Palm Beach. A weekend trip to Mar-a-Lago averages $3.4 million, with most of that resulting from the hundreds of thousands of dollars it costs each hour to fly both the modified Boeing 747 that serves as the primary Air Force One, as well as the C-17 cargo planes required to move all the support vehicles in Trump’s motorcade.

Determining the cost of Trump’s golf visits is not easy. The White House is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act, and Trump’s press office does not answer most questions about his golf visits — even refusing to confirm whether he is, in fact, playing golf when he is physically at his golf courses.

But a recent Government Accountability Office report regarding Trump’s four early 2017 visits to Mar-a-Lago has provided hard data and a methodology that HuffPost followed in its own analysis.

The HuffPost analysis took a conservative approach to determining costs. For example, it used a per-hour rate of $15,994 for Trump’s use of the smaller Air Force One that he takes to Bedminster, New Jersey, even though that figure accounts only for fuel and maintenance, not the additional factors that GAO used when it determined the $273,000-per-hour cost of operating the larger plane.

Any presidential outing requires coordination of multiple offices and agencies and incurs additional costs compared to staying in the White House. Even one of Trump’s day trips to his course across the Potomac River in northern Virginia — there have been 52 to date — requires fuel for all the motorcade vehicles and some personnel costs if overtime is necessary for Secret Service agents and others. (Those expenses, however, are minimal compared to flight costs, and HuffPost did not include them in its $102 million total.)

And the price increases exponentially the farther Trump travels.

Flying the Marine Corps helicopters — three of them are used each time ― from the White House to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland, where Air Force One is based, costs $57,000 for the round trip, according to the GAO report. Flying the massive C-17 transports loaded with Trump’s 7-ton armored limousines and other specialized support vehicles costs $800,500 per Mar-a-Lago trip.

And for each of those trips, the Coast Guard winds up spending an extra $855,500 to patrol the Atlantic Ocean to the east of Mar-a-Lago and the Intracoastal Waterway to the west. That figure includes the expense of getting necessary ships, boats and crews to South Florida from stations as far away as Boston and Houston, the GAO reported.

When Trump travels overseas, the costs rise even higher, as yet more agencies become involved. Dozens of White House staff members may travel with Trump during a weekend to Mar-a-Lago or Bedminster, but that number swells to several hundred on an overseas trip. The administration avoids lengthy motorcades on foreign soil, so Marine helicopters and V-22 tilt-rotor aircraft must be pre-positioned. A backup Air Force One is sent along as the support plane.

According to a Scottish newspaper last summer, the U.S. State Department paid a local car rental agency $1.2 million for vehicles for all the staff who relocated from London, where Trump had met with Queen Elizabeth II and Prime Minister Theresa May, to Scotland, where Trump wanted to play golf at his Turnberry resort before heading to Finland to meet Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.

Between that expense and the costs of moving equipment from London to Glasgow and then 55 miles southwest to Turnberry, those two golf days cost taxpayers at least $3 million beyond what they would have spent if Trump had simply stayed in London, according to HuffPost’s analysis.

One of Trump’s favorite lines of attack against Obama was to point out his frequent golf outings during his presidency.

“I play golf to relax. My company is in great shape. @BarackObama plays golf to escape work while America goes down the drain,” Trump tweeted in December 2011.

“Can you believe that, with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf. Worse than Carter,” he wrote three years later.

As he began his own run for the White House, candidate Trump repeatedly promised that golf would never make it onto a President Trump schedule. “I love golf, but if I were in the White House, I don’t think I’d ever see Turnberry again. I don’t think I’d ever see Doral again,” he told a rally audience in February 2016, referring to his course near the Miami airport. “I don’t ever think I’d see anything. I just want to stay in the White House and work my tushy off.”

Trump reneged on that pledge within two weeks, when he took his first of 24 trips to date to Mar-a-Lago. He has, according to HuffPost’s analysis, spent a total of 61 days on his Florida courses, 58 at Bedminster in New Jersey, one at Trump National Golf Club in Los Angeles and two at Trump Turnberry.

Wednesday is the 853rd day of his presidency, and Trump has spent 174 of them at one of his own golf courses. He spent one additional day golfing: Nov. 5, 2017, at the Kasumigaseki Country Club outside Tokyo with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. It is the only time thus far that he has played golf at a course he does not own.

That insistence of frequenting his own properties, in fact, has driven his total golf expenses disproportionately higher than Obama’s at the same point in his presidency.

By Obama’s 853rd day in office, he had spent 70 days at a golf course. But 48 of those golf days were at courses on military bases: Joint Base Andrews or Fort Belvoir, both in suburban Washington a short motorcade ride from the White House. All but two of the others were on family vacations to Hawaii and Martha’s Vineyard.

And although Hawaii is four times as far from Washington, D.C., as Palm Beach, Obama only went there twice in his first 28 months. In that same time span, Trump has gone to Mar-a-Lago 24 times. While Obama made two trips to Martha’s Vineyard through May of 2011, Trump has already gone to Bedminster 15 times.

The result: Obama racked up out-of-town golf expenses of approximately $30 million compared to Trump’s $102 million.

And Trump’s tab will grow by several million dollars more if he follows through with a golf outing at his resort at Doonbeg, Ireland, before or after his coming trip to London and Normandy in early June. An Ireland stop means travel on Air Force One, C-17s to ferry vehicles and helicopters as well as hundreds of White House, Pentagon and State Department staff that make up the entourage of a foreign visit.

Cognizant of how a foreign visit solely for a golf vacation might look, the White House tried to arrange some type of official meeting with Irish leaders for weeks after it began planning the Doonbeg trip.

But Prime Minister Leo Varadkar’s government, cognizant of Trump’s deep unpopularity in Ireland, was reluctant to agree to the White House request that Varadkar travel to Trump’s private resort on the opposite side of the country from Dublin, said an Irish government source who spoke on condition of anonymity. Tuesday’s announcement of a meeting in Shannon, possibly at Shannon airport — where Air Force One will land — appears to be the compromise location.

“We welcome the announcement of the visit by the U.S. president,” the Irish Embassy said in a statement Tuesday. “Detailed arrangements around the visit will be made public in due course.”

The White House press staff, meanwhile, did not respond to repeated queries about various aspects of this report over a period of weeks.


Yeah - your fukcing president.....
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It's different when Trump does it... Cool
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Reply #2 - 05/22/19 at 12:52:53
 
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During his 2016 presidential campaign, Republican candidate Donald Trump, a billionaire real estate developer, vowed that if elected he would forgo the $400,000 annual presidential salary. So far as president Trump has stuck to that promise, handing over checks every three months for various projects overseen by different government departments.

In the first quarter of 2017, for example, President Trump donated $78,333 (his $100,000 salary for that quarter, after taxes) to the Department of the Interior, specifically for the National Park Service’s maintenance of an historic Civil War site. His contribution was put towards two projects at Antietam National Battlefield in Maryland.

In July 2017, the White House announced in a press release that President Trump had donated his second-quarter salary to a science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) camp for children, overseen by the Education Department. He signed over his third-quarter salary to the Department of Health and Human Services for a public awareness campaign about opioid addiction, and the last of his 2017 salary went towards an infrastructure grant program overseen by the U.S. Department of Transportation.

As the Washington Post has pointed out, some of the initiatives President Trump donated to were at uncertain stages of development or did not yet exist at the time he made his contribution, which prompted some additional scrutiny, but President Trump has nonetheless stayed true to his word and handed over a check representing his presidential salary every three months.

Trump continued this tradition in 2018, donating his first-quarter salary to the Department of Veterans Affairs, a sum which then-Acting VA Secretary Robert Wilkie said had been earmarked for “caregiver support in the form of mental health and peer support programs, financial aid, education training, and research.” The president donated another quarter’s salary to the U.S. Small Business Administration for the purpose of establishing an “Emerging Leaders” program focused “on helping veterans start small businesses after military life.” And the third quarter of his 2018 salary went to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, according to the Associated Press. On 18 March 2019, President Trump announced on Twitter he was donating a quarter of his salary to the Department of Homeland Security.


Of course, when it costs 8mil to make 27mil, democrats just can't do the math.
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Reply #3 - 05/22/19 at 13:04:09
 
Don't care.
He's President, Hillary isn't.
He'll be President thru 2024.
None of those 20+ leftist wussies will be.
Case closed.
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Reply #4 - 05/22/19 at 13:05:56
 
verslagen1 wrote on 05/22/19 at 12:52:53:
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During his 2016 presidential campaign, Republican candidate Donald Trump, a billionaire real estate developer, vowed that if elected he would forgo the $400,000 annual presidential salary. So far as president Trump has stuck to that promise, handing over checks every three months for various projects overseen by different government departments.

In the first quarter of 2017, for example, President Trump donated $78,333 (his $100,000 salary for that quarter, after taxes) to the Department of the Interior, specifically for the National Park Service’s maintenance of an historic Civil War site. His contribution was put towards two projects at Antietam National Battlefield in Maryland.

In July 2017, the White House announced in a press release that President Trump had donated his second-quarter salary to a science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) camp for children, overseen by the Education Department. He signed over his third-quarter salary to the Department of Health and Human Services for a public awareness campaign about opioid addiction, and the last of his 2017 salary went towards an infrastructure grant program overseen by the U.S. Department of Transportation.

As the Washington Post has pointed out, some of the initiatives President Trump donated to were at uncertain stages of development or did not yet exist at the time he made his contribution, which prompted some additional scrutiny, but President Trump has nonetheless stayed true to his word and handed over a check representing his presidential salary every three months.

Trump continued this tradition in 2018, donating his first-quarter salary to the Department of Veterans Affairs, a sum which then-Acting VA Secretary Robert Wilkie said had been earmarked for “caregiver support in the form of mental health and peer support programs, financial aid, education training, and research.” The president donated another quarter’s salary to the U.S. Small Business Administration for the purpose of establishing an “Emerging Leaders” program focused “on helping veterans start small businesses after military life.” And the third quarter of his 2018 salary went to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, according to the Associated Press. On 18 March 2019, President Trump announced on Twitter he was donating a quarter of his salary to the Department of Homeland Security.


Of course, when it costs 8mil to make 27mil, democrats just can't do the math.



BFD...

Maybe you missed the headline here:

Trump’s Golf Costs: $102 Million And Counting, With Taxpayers Picking Up The Tab

Further, did you also see this little tidbit?:

...when he took his first of 24 trips to date to Mar-a-Lago. He has, according to HuffPost’s analysis, spent a total of 61 days on his Florida courses, 58 at Bedminster in New Jersey, one at Trump National Golf Club in Los Angeles and two at Trump Turnberry.

Hmm... what a coincidence!  he owns those courses... golly gee!

trump giving up his paycheck is akin to someone giving a stray dog a scrap of food and then walking down the block and punching a homeless person in the face.
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Reply #5 - 05/22/19 at 13:06:29
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/22/19 at 13:04:09:
Don't care.
He's President, Hillary isn't.
He'll be President thru 2024.
None of those 20+ leftist wussies will be.
Case closed.


Hypocrite.
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Reply #6 - 05/22/19 at 14:24:51
 
Its only hypocritical if you consider the two or more comparative subjects relatively equal.

If a cute, adorable puppy pees on my rug, he'll live.
If I see a bug on my rug, I squash it.

Trump is the little puppy who gets away with almost anything as long as he keeps giving me what I want.
Hillary is the f'ing bug that was squashed.

I disagree with 99% of Sew's positions.  
I disagree with 99% of your positions.

If one of you got hit by a bus; I'd be a little bummed out.
If the other one did, well...... let's just say I wouldn't be.

Hypocritical? No.

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WebsterMark wrote on 05/22/19 at 14:24:51:
Its only hypocritical if you consider the two or more comparative subjects relatively equal.

LOL - you need to look up the word "hypocrite".

You don't care that trump played more golf than Obama, but I'm sure you thought that Obama played way too much.

That's hypocrisy.


If a cute, adorable puppy pees on my rug, he'll live.
If I see a bug on my rug, I squash it.

Trump is the little puppy who gets away with almost anything as long as he keeps giving me what I want.
Hillary is the f'ing bug that was squashed.

I disagree with 99% of Sew's positions.  
I disagree with 99% of your positions.

If one of you got hit by a bus; I'd be a little bummed out.
If the other one did, well...... let's just say I wouldn't be. - good - then stop calling me "buddy".

Hypocritical? No. Correct - because that's not hypocrisy, genius.


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Reply #8 - 05/23/19 at 05:49:31
 
Apparently you are obtuse......!

Seriously buddy, think it through. It's hypocritical to treat or view two comparable subjects differently. I don't consider those two comparable.

I have a tremendous level of freedom at my work while one of the office staff does not. I might go play golf this afternoon if the weather clears. The other guy can't do that. Hypocritical?
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WebsterMark wrote on 05/23/19 at 05:49:31:
Apparently you are obtuse......!

Seriously buddy, think it through. It's hypocritical to treat or view two comparable subjects differently. I don't consider those two comparable.

Well, in a way, I guess you're right.  Obama is way WAY better a person/president/father/Christian than trump could ever be.

But they were still both presidents and what you hold one accountable for, you should the other accountable for.  Therein lies your hypocritical viewpoint.

I have a tremendous level of freedom at my work while one of the office staff does not. I might go play golf this afternoon if the weather clears. The other guy can't do that. Hypocritical?


No, that's not hypocrisy, that's "pecking order/corporate ladder BS"... maybe you should read this:

hy·poc·ri·sy
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: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not : behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel
His hypocrisy was finally revealed with the publication of his private letters.
especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion
our conventional morality often serves as a cover for hypocrisy and selfishness

2 : an act or instance of hypocrisy
a keen awareness of one's parents' hypocrisies

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Reply #10 - 05/23/19 at 07:20:52
 
Nope. As usual, you're wrong. And obtuse.


You're more boring than usual. This is getting old again.

"You're the sore in your mouth that would heal if you could just stop tonguing it."

I need to flush you down the drain for a while friend.
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Reply #11 - 05/23/19 at 09:39:24
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/23/19 at 07:20:52:
Nope. As usual, you're wrong. And obtuse.


You're more boring than usual. This is getting old again.

"You're the sore in your mouth that would heal if you could just stop tonguing it."

I need to flush you down the drain for a while friend.



LOL - ignorance is your friend I see, huh mark?

Well, you keep doing you.  We'll see how that works out for ya.

Oh, by the way, good for you with trying to use the word "obtuse"!  Maybe you should look it up, though.

Better yet, just look in the mirror if you want the complete definition.  While you're there - ignorance will also be defined.
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