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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12828 Gender:	Fur or babies? 05/15/19 at 05:29:12 If you want to know how far apart the country is, consider that New York City is discussing banning fur and Alabama is discussing banning abortion.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #1 - 05/15/19 at 06:25:29 I agree - fur should be banned, abortions shouldn't.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8989 Minn Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #2 - 05/15/19 at 08:19:54 T And T Garage wrote on 05/15/19 at 06:25:29: I agree - fur should be banned, abortions shouldn't. WOW !!! You believe that harvesting/hunting, and using meat/fur, from a animal, is wrong. Yet you believe, KILLING A HUMAN BABY, A Sentient Being, Is perfectly OK. And you have the balls to say, no one here knows you.
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Reply #3 - 05/15/19 at 08:52:32

MnSpring wrote on 05/15/19 at 08:19:54:

T And T Garage wrote on 05/15/19 at 06:25:29:
I agree - fur should be banned, abortions shouldn't.

WOW !!!
You believe that harvesting/hunting, and using meat/fur, from a animal,
is wrong.

Yes - but to be clear, I do eat meat and I get the hypocrisy, so.... But I think that killing animals for fur is worse.

Yet you believe, KILLING A HUMAN BABY,
A Sentient Being,
Is perfectly OK.

Well mn, a fetus is not a baby. A heartbeat is not a baby. A zygote is not a baby.

And you have the balls to say,
no one here knows you.

Yeah, I do.

Grin

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28362 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #4 - 05/15/19 at 08:58:55 The real argument is not about whether or not abortion should happen,... it's about whether doctors should be allowed to do them. Abortions will happen. They always have and always will. You really need to face reality. Know your history.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 7987	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #5 - 05/15/19 at 09:00:19 I think the basis is the killing of a born animal for fur. It would be equal if they were killing unborn animals for fur, or killing born humans for meat.
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Reply #6 - 05/15/19 at 09:02:56

"it's about whether doctors should be allowed to do them"

This is exactly correct. Procreation will continue. Underground and home abortions will happen, and will increase if a safer clinical setting isn't available as they have in the past.

It is no different than giving birth. If clinical birth centers were illegal people would still have children, just without professional medical assistance.

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Reply #7 - 05/15/19 at 09:05:55

Eegore wrote on 05/15/19 at 09:02:56:

"it's about whether doctors should be allowed to do them"

This is exactly correct. Procreation will continue. Underground and home abortions will happen, and will increase if a safer clinical setting isn't available as they have in the past.

It is no different than giving birth. If clinical birth centers were illegal people would still have children, just without professional medical assistance.

Agrees - well said, both of you.

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Reply #8 - 05/15/19 at 09:09:38

Serowbot wrote on 05/15/19 at 08:58:55:

The real argument is not about whether or not abortion should happen,... it's about whether doctors should be allowed to do them.
Abortions will happen. They always have and always will.

Absolutely they will.
Yet I have the ability to say I believe it is KILLING a Human.

Just like you have the ability to say, you don't believe in any Deity, or believe some guns, and uses of them should be BANNED.

(Well until the B.S. Socialists take away the 1st. as they are working hard to do)

Here the rub,
YOU, don't pay for MY guns.

Yet I, pay for YOUR (or friend/etc) abortion !

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28362 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #9 - 05/15/19 at 10:30:14 No tax money is used for abortion.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28752 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #10 - 05/15/19 at 10:34:26 Serowbot wrote on 05/15/19 at 10:30:14: No tax money is used for abortion. Planned Parenthood Support?
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 7987	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #11 - 05/15/19 at 11:22:38 I am fine with the removal of public taxes for abortion clinics. What is happening is the criminalization of the procedure, not the removal of public taxes.
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Reply #12 - 05/15/19 at 11:43:40

Serowbot wrote on 05/15/19 at 10:30:14:

No tax money is used for abortion.

"...taxpayers subsidize roughly 24% of all abortion costs in the U.S.
this is equivalent to taxpayers paying the full cost of 250,000 abortions a year, with about 70,000 financed by federal taxpayers..."

"...the Hyde Amendment has been signed into law prohibiting federal payments through Medicaid..."

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Reply #13 - 05/15/19 at 18:25:59

Nobody is fool enough to believe that abortions will be stopped by this.
It's basically a tenth amendment ploy. Let the states decide their own policies.
That's what this is all about.
Kill roe vs wade, and then the states decide how to deal.

The baby inside a woman is a baby.
It's a human being.
The ONLY reason it's called
Constitutional and legal to kill it is because it hasn't been born yet. The language of the constitution GUARANTEES certain rights to those born or naturalized in America.

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12828 Gender:	Re: Fur or babies? Reply #14 - 05/15/19 at 18:54:23 Fighting so hard for your team to win that you'd grant more value to a mink that a human being is hard to fathom. Every pro-choice person was, at all one point in their life, identical to the life they'd kill.
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