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Reply #15 - 10/24/18 at 10:01:23

We don't NEED to Process immigrants
Unless America is in need of a population boost.
The more people there are, unless there is sufficient industry and employment opportunities exist to allow them to be gainfully employed and build themselves a life,
Pay goes down for the general population
AND
Taxes to provide FOR the people who can't find work create a further drag on the economy.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's the inescapable , obvious TRUTH.

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Reply #16 - 10/24/18 at 10:27:45

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/24/18 at 10:01:23:

We don't NEED to Process immigrants
Unless America is in need of a population boost.
The more people there are, unless there is sufficient industry and employment opportunities exist to allow them to be gainfully employed and build themselves a life,
Pay goes down for the general population
AND
Taxes to provide FOR the people who can't find work create a further drag on the economy.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's the inescapable , obvious TRUTH.

Well jog, our unemployment rate is basically at "full employment".

We've got hundreds of thousands of jobs open here....

So?....

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Reply #17 - 10/24/18 at 10:31:39

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/24/18 at 10:01:23:

We don't NEED to Process immigrants
Unless America is in need of a population boost.
The more people there are, unless there is sufficient industry and employment opportunities exist to allow them to be gainfully employed and build themselves a life,
Pay goes down for the general population
AND
Taxes to provide FOR the people who can't find work create a further drag on the economy.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's the inescapable , obvious TRUTH.

many employers would argue with that, and the idea of process is in our Constitution, it's literally the AMERICAN WAY, without due process, we are nothing but barbarians

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Reply #18 - 10/24/18 at 10:53:46

“Real reform means strong border security, and we can build on the progress my administration has already made -- putting more boots on the Southern border than at any time in our history and reducing illegal crossings to their lowest levels in 40 years,” Obama said.

“Real reform means establishing a responsible pathway to earned citizenship -- a path that includes passing a background check, paying taxes and a meaningful penalty, learning English, and going to the back of the line behind the folks trying to come here legally,” he added

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Reply #19 - 10/24/18 at 11:37:08

raydawg wrote on 10/24/18 at 10:53:46:

“Real reform means strong border security, and we can build on the progress my administration has already made -- putting more boots on the Southern border than at any time in our history and reducing illegal crossings to their lowest levels in 40 years,” Obama said.

“Real reform means establishing a responsible pathway to earned citizenship -- a path that includes passing a background check, paying taxes and a meaningful penalty, learning English, and going to the back of the line behind the folks trying to come here legally,” he added

So you're repeating what Obama said.. good for you ray.

Are you trying to imply that we liberals think any differently than that?

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Reply #20 - 10/24/18 at 11:50:43

Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated May 30, 2018
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.

A detainer is the primary tool used by ICE to gain custody of criminal aliens for deportation. It is a notice to another law enforcement agency that ICE intends to assume custody of an alien and includes information on the alien's previous criminal history, immigration violations, and potential threat to public safety or security.

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Reply #24 - 10/24/18 at 12:01:10

raydawg wrote on 10/24/18 at 11:59:10:

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/the-liberal-love-affair-with-illegal-i...

LOL - nice opinion piece ray.

"When I hear liberals talk about this issue, they're now saying that immigration law does not matter, that we should selectively enforce the law or ignore it altogether, and they are taking the sides of illegal aliens over Americans."

This is laughable.

Feel free to prove that.

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Reply #25 - 10/24/18 at 12:04:21

raydawg wrote on 10/24/18 at 11:50:43:

Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated May 30, 2018
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.

A detainer is the primary tool used by ICE to gain custody of criminal aliens for deportation. It is a notice to another law enforcement agency that ICE intends to assume custody of an alien and includes information on the alien's previous criminal history, immigration violations, and potential threat to public safety or security.

Ever heard of the Constitution? Not talking about protecting illegals, I'm talking about the rights of businesses.

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Reply #27 - 10/24/18 at 12:13:45

Educate yourself:

Calls to Abolish ICE Not ‘Open Borders’:
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/07/calls-to-abolish-ice-not-open-borders/

No, Democrats Don’t Want ‘Open Borders’:
http://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/fast-check-donald-trump-democra...

Donald Trump falsely claims there's an 'open borders bill' backed by Democrats:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/oct/08/donald-trump/d...

It’s Time For A Reality Check: Hysteria About 'Open Borders' Is Just That — Hysteria:
http://www.wbur.org/cognoscenti/2018/04/09/mexico-border-national-guard-rich-...

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Reply #28 - 10/24/18 at 12:17:02

MnSpring wrote on 10/24/18 at 12:10:18:

T And T Garage wrote on 10/24/18 at 12:01:10:

LOL - nice opinion piece ray.
This is laughable.
Feel free to prove that.

So, if someone else has a opinion,
it is 'Laughable' ?

"When I hear liberals talk about this issue, they're now saying that immigration law does not matter, that we should selectively enforce the law or ignore it altogether, and they are taking the sides of illegal aliens over Americans."

Prove that statement. He's not saying "most", he's not saying "a few", he's saying "liberals".

That is a lie. Flat out. It's not an opinion, it's a statement that is false.

But how could you possibly know the difference, right?

Yet when you have a Opinion.
Everybody else is to have the Exact Same opinion?
(And if they don't, then they surely are 'racist')

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Reply #29 - 10/24/18 at 12:26:01

MnSpring wrote on 10/24/18 at 12:10:18:

T And T Garage wrote on 10/24/18 at 12:01:10:

LOL - nice opinion piece ray.
This is laughable.
Feel free to prove that.

So, if someone else has a opinion,
it is 'Laughable' ?

Yet when you have a Opinion.
Everybody else is to have the Exact Same opinion?
(And if they don't, then they surely are 'racist')

Hey buddy, you going to do any ICE fishing this winter Grin

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