Kashoggi, goes into one of the world's most cctv laced embassies and never comes out. Saudi's say with a straight face, 'no really, he was here less than an hour, we are concerned for his safety'

Even after the Saudi's finally admit that 'er yes he is in fact as dead as the proverbial parrot, we were asking him some questions and killed him by accident, Trump still pretends that Kashoggi is not dead. Roll that around in your head.

This is not about Kashoggi it's about Trump and how his supporters who are no less stupid as any other person somehow enjoy going along with this. Yesterday it was the 'guilty until proven innocent' complaint.

The Turkish government have recordings, they said unequivocally that he was killed inside the embassy, and now the Saudis have admitted it is true. Trump has of course to hear the tape, being the president of the USA and he has 'asked for it' but he still still adds, 'if it exists'. Because you know it's possible it could have been a 400lb fat guy on a bed eating pizza. It's possible.

This is not about Kashoggi and it's not even about Trump, it's about exactly what Trump's modus operandi really is. It's what got Kavanaugh into the court after the Judge himself openly declared himself to be a partisan judge when he alluded to his ordeal as some sort of democratic smear campaign.

Yesterday I also note that Trump has now stated that if Congress loses the house, it won't be his fault. It's like a sit com. Maybe Rosanne Bar should be director of WH communications.

Trump dog whistling to the Saudis is the same as he did for Putin, Duterte, Kim and any other strong arm leader. He has chosen his side. In the end Trump only cares about Trump and how the Presidency can be used to further his own interests. No surprise there, the surprise is why people go along with his tribal bullshit when they get nothing.

I can only postulate that people whose lives are miserable and who are deep down angry and hateful at the world, and especially at women, are happy to see someone do the dirty work that they can cheer.

Otherwise I guess it, as the GOP are so fond of saying, 'it is what it is'.

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You mean like blaming every evil thing that happens anywhere on Trump, and by extension, anyone who might have supported him. or who might be perceived  as politically conservative, or who just disagrees with a leftist viewpoint ?

And since we are postulating, I'm going to postulate that you really  don't give a crap about Khashoggi. His murder is just another convenient excuse for you - and all the other lefties who are wailing about it - to take a shot at ideas, and folks, that you don't approve of.

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Bit of projection there I'm thinking.

MShipley wrote on 10/18/18 at 10:00:02:


Absolutely, he's a US permanent resident. It's about Trump because his support gives the Saudis a green light.

Donald Trump has said he presumes that Jamal Khashoggi is dead, and said the consequences for Saudi Arabia could be “very severe” if its leaders are found to have ordered the dissident journalist’s killing.

Oh look, he's dead after all, that means that to quote Trump something very very powerful is going to happen. Now 'very severe'. Oh no correct that it *could be* 'very severe' IF, the crown prince knew of it. Phew! that's a relief because I have a feeling that he will make a very very powerful and strong denial.

Also this sets the stage for Trump himself to very very powerfully deny anything. But it doesn't matter any longer because the rest of the world will remain normal and the USA is in for a yuge correction.

eau de sauvage wrote on 10/18/18 at 17:08:40:


So what if he lives here? He is not a citizen of this country. It is really interesting that the World spends all its time bashing the US and It's President. They are always accusing us of interfering and pushing countries around. BUT NOW the world is looking to see what we will do about it when this guy is not even a citizen.

Does he have to say he will do something and probably follow through with doing something. Yes he does. Do you know why? Because every hate filled leftist in the world (who claim to care about this man but really don't) will use this for their political game to try everything to hurt Trump and the US. If retaliations cause war and death they don't care as long as it hurts Trump and the US.

Let me ask you? What is your country going to do about it? What are your Leaders going to step up and do? Perhaps maybe your country should step up and take care of this WORLD issue.

Eegore wrote on 10/19/18 at 06:46:53:


It will be interesting to see what Turkey does. The relationship between them and the Saudis are deteriorating. Turkey is becoming more conservative and moving more toward Sharia Law while the Saudis are moving toward capitalism and away from Sharia.

By the way Istanbul is really a nice city. I had some of the best lamb I ever ate there.

"Isn't that just so called, whataboutism? You cannot just say 'but what is your govt doing', while at the same time ignoring the fact that the US has all the power and they use this power to thwart other countries from acting (if possible)"

 Who's "ignoring" US activity?  I am aware of people acknowledging US activity while asking what other countries are doing.  When I ask for "comparative actions" I am comparing to US activity which means US actions can not be ignored.  I did not mean to convey that I was comparing other countries against other countries but not the US.

 Thanks for the link.