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Dump the 4th
02/20/18 at 05:32:46

Since there’s the predictable push on to abandon the 2nd Amendment in order to save lives (and I may have mentioned this before) here’s a worthy question.

Which Amendment has cost the US the most lives?

I’d have to go with the 4th as the deadliest. Imagine if we abandon the 4th amendment and gave authorities access to all what we think of as private.

They could come into the house at any time, read our email, text, and as technology improves, our thoughts. Pull over any car at any time. Imagine the guns they’d find, the drugs, imagine the criminal conspiracies they’d read about or that we were even thinking about doing…..

Why we’d live in a paradise wouldn’t we?! There’d be practically no crime, right? On those rare occasions they didn’t proactively prevent a crime, it would be easy to solve. Just dig around the houses, cars, computers of suspects until they found evidence.

So who’s with me? Let’s dump the 4th!

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Reply #1 - 02/20/18 at 06:09:30

WebsterMark wrote on 02/20/18 at 05:32:46:

Since there’s the predictable push on to abandon the 2nd Amendment in order to save lives (and I may have mentioned this before) here’s a worthy question.

Says who?? No "lib" I know wants to get rid of the Second Amendment.
Another hyperbolic statement by someone on the right... typical.

Which Amendment has cost the US the most lives?

I’d have to go with the 4th as the deadliest. Imagine if we abandon the 4th amendment and gave authorities access to all what we think of as private.

They could come into the house at any time, read our email, text, and as technology improves, our thoughts. Pull over any car at any time. Imagine the guns they’d find, the drugs, imagine the criminal conspiracies they’d read about or that we were even thinking about doing…..

Why we’d live in a paradise wouldn’t we?! There’d be practically no crime, right? On those rare occasions they didn’t proactively prevent a crime, it would be easy to solve. Just dig around the houses, cars, computers of suspects until they found evidence.

So who’s with me? Let’s dump the 4th!

Yeah... we all get the joke...

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Reply #2 - 02/20/18 at 06:17:48

I think it's been pretty much been dumped already. The legal standard now is, more or less, "It's easier to apologize later than ask permission now." "So, you think your constitutional rights were trampled on? Fine. Get yourself a lawyer, take us to court while you sit in jail, or are deprived of your property, and see how that works out."

Maybe you'll find a sympathetic judge who will toss the improperly obtained evidence; get you off the hook. If not, oh well, sucks to be you.

Gonna cost you a bunch of money in either case. Won't cost the folks that are fu*kin' with you sh*t though. They still get paid regardless of how things work out.

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12847 Gender:	Re: Dump the 4th Reply #3 - 02/20/18 at 06:47:44 I get your point old, but imagine the firestorm if the 4th were under attack like the 2nd? But it's a valid question, if you wanted to stop the most deaths, you'd get rid of the 4th. Think there's many drive by shootings in North Korea? Doubtful.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Dump the 4th Reply #4 - 02/20/18 at 07:01:56 Lefties want Common sense gun laws. I've Seen their common sense. The No Gun Zone signs are a reminder. More states are moving toward armed teachers. The Ohio sheriff had filled up the fifty teacher class in Twenty Minutes. I guess teachers aren't as dumb as some people think. Instead of running away, they are embracing the idea.
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Re: Dump the 4th
Reply #5 - 02/20/18 at 07:10:31

WebsterMark wrote on 02/20/18 at 06:47:44:

I get your point old, but imagine the firestorm if the 4th were under attack like the 2nd?

But it's a valid question, if you wanted to stop the most deaths, you'd get rid of the 4th. Think there's many drive by shootings in North Korea? Doubtful.

No cars, no guns. Unless yer a big shot or in the army or police.I bet there are a lot of people that those poor starving bast*rds would LIKE to shoot if they only had the means though. So yeah, a repressive, totalitarian regime is probably always going to look much safer. As long as you don't mind walking everywhere, and not having enough to eat.

As far as the 4th goes, I think most people would just shrug and move on. We are that used to the way things are now. It's not something most people are passionate about like the 2nd. The 2nd is one of those issues,like pro-choice vs. pro-life, or gay marriage or other LBGT stuff that people really get riled up about. How someone feels about those things almost immediately defines, in most folks minds, what kind of person you are, and whether you are a good guy or a bad guy. There is very little room for respectful disagreement.

I don't think that arguing about the 4th will ever rise to that level of willful ignorance.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Dump the 4th Reply #6 - 02/20/18 at 07:32:16 The 4TH is already gutted. Everything is recorded.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28375 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Dump the 4th Reply #7 - 02/20/18 at 07:49:21 Comparing cutting off your head to trimming your toenails...
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Reply #8 - 02/20/18 at 08:14:16

WebsterMark wrote on 02/20/18 at 06:47:44:

I get your point old, but imagine the firestorm if the 4th were under attack like the 2nd?

Under attack how? Care to explain yourself?

Hmmm... I seem to remember some guy just calling me a liar over and over again with no proof...

My, my - how things change..... Roll Eyes

But it's a valid question, if you wanted to stop the most deaths, you'd get rid of the 4th. Think there's many drive by shootings in North Korea? Doubtful.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Dump the 4th Reply #9 - 02/20/18 at 09:11:01 I'm supposed to not notice the push for further limiting access to weapons, the screeching about banning Assault Weapons, high capacity magazines, and every Common Sense move. Yeah, I'm unable to pretend that banning guns isn't a goal. Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in. Signed Nancy Pelosi
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Reply #10 - 02/20/18 at 10:14:41

T And T Garage wrote on 02/20/18 at 06:09:30:
"... says who?? No "lib" I know wants to get rid of the Second Amendment. ..."

Let me ask,
What would you, view it as,
if someone constantly told, YOU.

“ You, can’t have that that certain thing.
You, have no need for that certain thing.
You have No need for a magazine for that certain thing.
You must put that certain thing in a Locked Armory.
and only be able to use it on certain times.
You must take a extensive class and training.
before you can use that certain thing.
(MORE, than driving a Car)
You cannot keep that certain thing at home.
You must wait 30 Days before you can purchase.
another of those things.
You can only use it at a certain place. "

Etc, etc, etc,

If that was about, YOUR, Golf Clubs.
Would, YOU say: ‘push on to abandon’ ?

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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Re: Dump the 4th
Reply #11 - 02/20/18 at 10:25:58

OH, forgot about the,
Kum-By-You Singing, Ultra-Progressive,
ANTIFA Ideals Supporting, Fairy Dust Sprinkling people,
saying:

‘Golf Club’s don’t kill people’
Yea, they do !
Next, Golf Clubs, are NOT Stated as a, ‘Right’, in the Constitution.

Which , (again), brings up the question.
Why was the 2nd Amendment, Written?

Which again, have not seen any,
ANTIFA Ideals Supporting, Fairy Dust Sprinkler,
say, his/her, opinion of why that was written.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12847 Gender:	Re: Dump the 4th Reply #12 - 02/20/18 at 10:30:57 Serowbot wrote on 02/20/18 at 07:49:21: Comparing cutting off your head to trimming your toenails... There's always a first step..... Point is gun control is more about control than guns. If you really wanted to stop shootings, roll back the 4th and let the authorities get busy.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28375 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Dump the 4th Reply #13 - 02/20/18 at 10:42:21 So many countries with freedoms of privacy but no guns,... and they have so few mass shootings. But hey,.. lets not allow reality to interfere with hyperbole...
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12847 Gender:	Re: Dump the 4th Reply #14 - 02/20/18 at 10:48:36 But they're not America. I'll take us as we are over anyplace else any day.
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