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12/27/17 at 19:12:48
 
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Reply #1 - 12/28/17 at 08:28:52
 

 I think part of this problem all along has been that these guys use protesters before they use a strategist that can legally help them.

 The Dept of Army wanted to take tons of ranch land in CO and all the protesters just caused problems.  We had to defund the Ft Carson expansion by going after the Pentagon.  No land was taken but it will be an ongoing battle.

 Shooting Government employees, standing around with guns and carrying copies of the Constitution didn't get us anywhere.  Why aren't these guys going after the Centers for Biological Diversity, who is sueing the BLM to do all this?
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Reply #2 - 12/28/17 at 10:24:00
 
The government withheld exculpatory evidence and tried to frame the People who have been legally using the land.
The government is doing things that it shouldn't be doing.
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Reply #3 - 12/28/17 at 18:42:55
 

 I notice that in the reports and it is unfortunate.

 I do still wonder why they haven't pursued multiple avenues of defense, instead of only gathering and protesting.
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Reply #4 - 12/28/17 at 19:33:58
 
Do you know the story?
The number of families who were driven out?
How many years of abuse these people have endured?
The attacks, fires?
And how would someone go about stopping a government agency?
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Reply #5 - 12/29/17 at 05:52:20
 

 I only know how we did it in CO.  Stopped a multi-million dollar expansion of the largest Dept. of Army facility in the state.  We had to defund the project from the other side.  

 I don't know what strategy, if any would work for the people in the article but I do know that carrying the Constitution in their pockets, doing interviews and claiming rights hasn't worked.  Outing the Government fraud is a good thing, if it can be pursued, who knows.

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Reply #6 - 12/29/17 at 08:52:24
 
There used to be a ton of cattle, and several more families.
It's a long story.
JFK said
Make peaceful protest impossible and you make violent revolution inevitable.

Or close to that..

The government is wrong here.
And the protests you're saying were ineffective were enough to get a lot of attention.
But it's not what they needed.
I guess that's the fault of the People. We should unite against the government when it's wrong.
Of course, THEY have the media to paint the good People as crazy constitution waving morons and people like me who knew what was going on get the
You're a conspiracy theorist
treatment from brainwashed Dumbmasses, who are conspicuously silent NOW..
They don't want to remember.
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Reply #8 - 01/02/18 at 18:39:42
 
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/fear-loathing-at-the-doj.php

Yeah, they want truth and justice...
Let's let them run everything..
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Reply #9 - 01/03/18 at 05:18:51
 

 Reminds me of how people don't like bikers because they all run drugs and start fights.  Get all bikes off the road and lock up anyone riding one.
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Reply #10 - 01/08/18 at 13:25:45
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/08/charges-against-rancher-cliven-bundy-thr...

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"Navarro said Monday it was clear the FBI was involved in the prosecution and it was not a coincidence that most of the evidence that was held back – which would have worked in Bundy’s favor – came from the FBI"


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Reply #11 - 01/08/18 at 17:40:39
 
I'd like to see the criminals who tried to Railroad the Bundy clan Get Exactly the prison time they were setting them up for.
I'm pleased to see justice done and congratulate an honest judge.

I wonder how many people are in prison or had their lives destroyed by the FBI and their lab results.
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Reply #12 - 01/08/18 at 19:30:43
 
Weird.....

Love to hear the whole story
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Reply #13 - 01/08/18 at 19:49:29
 
It goes back years.
The government has been slowly driving people off the land. Remember when steak was affordable? The Bundys were surrounded and fires started, cows burned, it's been a real ordeal.
And the government men straight up murdered a guy.
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Reply #14 - 01/08/18 at 20:15:57
 
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And the government men straight up murdered a guy.


More than one. Bunch of kids too. But those are other stories; other times.

Now they are engaged in trying to take down a duly elected president. Without resorting to outright homicide at least. So far anyway.

Department of Justice. Even Orwell would have been impressed with the irony of the name of that outfit.
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