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I think Bernie would have won.....
11/04/17 at 10:14:03
 
This article at CNN ask that question, while throughly taking every opportunity to knock Trump, lol!
However, that does not diminish the importance of the question, would Bernie had won if Clinton had not corrupted the election.

I believe he would have based on just two factors.

1. The choice was driven mostly by an "anti" Washington sentiment.
Bernie would have benefited from that energy.

2. Folks had to choose between the lessor of two evils, when it came to deciding. Neither of the two finalists were viewed favorably when it came to trust.

I do not think either two of my observations would have saddled Bernie.
Yes, his socialist ideas would have been a hurdle, but doable, when you convince the deplorable how they would benefit by removing some of the favorable policies that the "rich" experience at the cost of the middle class, etc.

Also, he would have got the Jill Stein vote for sure, and that alone could have steered the outcome to him.

I don't believe he will ever mount another chance in 3 years, as his age is a factor, and the democrat party will be pushing the old timers out.

Who they field is another topic all together, as they will need a person who appeals to more than just New York and LA, etc.

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/04/politics/bernie-sanders-2016-election-donna-bra...
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Reply #1 - 11/04/17 at 10:33:48
 
I've heard about, but have no proof of, votes for trump by disgusted Bernie supporters once they saw the Super Delegates turn voting on its head.
I listened to the breakdowns and then how delegates were awarded. Bernie won some primaries and Hillary was awarded more delegates. I was stunned by the brazenly obvious theft.
It's possible Bernie would have won.
Either one would have been a complete disaster. The jury is still out on Trump.
Hopefully he won't follow the list and allow the Intelligence agencies to lie us into Iran.
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Reply #2 - 11/04/17 at 11:02:36
 
I do not either, however Jog, we are talking about there having been no corruption on Clinton's part, so the super delegates, etc, would be a moot point.
Bernie took this horse race almost to the end, and he was tethered with a wagon.

It is like Clinton's corruption never thought about destiny, in the terms is reality, no....
Only in the terms that she controlled the narrative.

We have her to thank for Trump.

We have Bernie to thank for exposing Hillary.

None of the current revealing of sexual
misconduct to foreign lobbyist would have ever come to light if things had not transpired as they did......

And as rough as this new revelation is, at times, and the matter upon how it comes into light, we will be better off for it.

That is true destiny  Grin
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Reply #3 - 11/04/17 at 11:06:35
 
Nor would we be seeing just how deep the Bush's are in this game.
B-1's ties to the CIA are scary, and I think now we are seeing how they deal now too, maybe JFK shoulda been watching them closer.....
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Reply #4 - 11/04/17 at 11:41:40
 
If you'll recall there were several bubs to choose from. We have the corrupt status quo that has been screwing us since JFK to thank for trump.
Sadly, I don't think he's gonna set us free from the parasitic deep state. He's not challenging the federal reserve, or war powers, or rewriting the unconstitutional executive orders, and I expect him to carry out the agenda of the globalists . The list of nations that We WILL invade was made public.
Watching you people avoid the truths that that little fact makes clear is frightening. Yeah, left and right, every one of you who refuses to address it.
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Reply #5 - 11/04/17 at 12:07:42
 
Dude, I've addressed it with you.....

Just because I don't adhere to your beliefs 100% does not mean I don't find some of them with merit.

It's easy to believe something, then fill in the "facts" to support it, discounting others the same luxury of belief.

I have stated before, too many variables, players, etc, to carry out such a concerted effort without more of a revealing.

I believe your premise is nothing more than pointing out the obvious weaknesses of mankind and his lack of character.
However, I believe these faults take many different avenues of implementation.

Simply put, when you have three or more people in agreement, sooner or later, one will feel cheated.
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Reply #6 - 11/04/17 at 13:19:30
 
What do you want?
The list, Again?
Since Libya was announced As A TARGET shortly after 9/11, and after we destroyed others On That List, Libya was next. And the same Bullshit lies provided by our Intelligence agencies, working to create intelligence that would justify war, the SAME WAY as with Iraq, or have you forgotten Those lies already?

I'll help you see, but you have to be honest with me.
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Reply #7 - 11/04/17 at 13:33:57
 
No Jog, did you read where I said some of your obsavations have merit?

I part with you when you think the deep state is that deep.
Indeed, schemes are hatched, but I believe the deceit is in reactions, more than planned.
As in, events dictate where this covert action is thrust.

Look at our media, academia, economic factors.
They lie incessantly, why......?
For self preservation of their beliefs!

I do not think you can mount a general us, against everyone else, without exposing yourself to your deeds.

Yes, I believe some schemes are hatch as preventive, no doubt, but even that is a best guess scenario.....

If man could honestly forecast the future with any certainty, all of our chatter would be moot.
Surely you can glimpse why?
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Reply #8 - 11/04/17 at 14:03:50
 
Because you choose to ignore the things I've pointed out to read, you don't see the dots and connect them. You see I'm looking reasonable, but only so far. You expect me to convince you further.
Yet, you won't expose yourself to the information that allows
Observed Reality to align with the truths I'm trying to get you to look at.
Have you read about the war powers through a site that isn't an establishment s source?
Do you know why Iran took hostages?
Do you understand how the attack on Libya was bullshit?
Think it through, ask, I'll do what I can.
Seems like prima facie evidence to me.
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Reply #9 - 11/04/17 at 15:13:55
 
You mean by more than 3 million votes?... Huh
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Reply #10 - 11/04/17 at 15:22:08
 
You must've missed the part about

I've never trusted the polls.
I traveled and never found any enthusiasm for Hillary.
Donna Brazil's

The lies we've seen, but I'm supposed to believe that Pustule WON something? Even democrats want her to get lost.
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Reply #11 - 11/04/17 at 15:57:42
 
Believe it or not, beliefs don't change facts...
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Reply #12 - 11/04/17 at 17:41:39
 
While you pretend wishes are truths and pretend to school me while you can't deal with the obvious facts about Libya is telling.
In any refereed environment where the referees were constitutional conservatives, I'd skin you alive.
But, put me amongst a crowd of lefties, and you win. Not because you're correct , but because you can find a group of like minded delusionals.
If you could be king for a year the utopia you think could exist if Only the idiots on the right would wake up would be a disaster. You actually believe that your high minded good wishes can be legislated, and only ignorant racist fools stand in the way.
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Reply #13 - 11/04/17 at 17:46:01
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/04/17 at 15:57:42:
Believe it or not, beliefs don't change facts...


Did you count every ballot?

Then you are "believing" it based on your need to believe.....

That is not a true fact, based on firsthand witnessing.
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Reply #14 - 11/04/17 at 18:00:28
 
Have you noticed how much actual debate they offer?
They run by and spew talking points and run.
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