The tires definitely had air!
I had filled them maybe 2 days before (30psi) and they had held air for the entire summer...it was weird that it gave out that quickly...
When I removed the tire and inflated the tube there were 2 holes (think snake bite) running along the side of the tube (near the centerline of the tire)...snake bite usually means a pinch but they weren't typical fer sure...
I went over the inside of the tire itself with my fingers and even stuck some wool in and ran it around to make sure there wasn't anything poking through...couldn't find anything
As far as buying another tire I'm not gonna do that since this one only has maybe 500 miles on it (pirelli RT66) and the new tube was replaced with a "Heavy Duty" tube...i must admit tho'...when I replaced the tires in the spring the placed that mounted them used the old tube...probably not a great idea...